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I've heard of some mistake or switch made with "wand order" in one of the books, and I just wondered what the heck it was. I saw the reference in one of those quizzes that tell you just how obsessed you are with Harry Potter (I'm 49% obsessed, by the way ) and all it said was "Did you recognize the wand order error without being told about it?" or something to that effect. The next question was, "Were you annoyed with the correction that was made in later editions?" I got very confused

If anyone wants to be super-duper sweet to me and explain it, I'd love them and hug them and....I think it just may be past my bedtime

Lily

Oh that. That has to do with the fact that in early versions of GoF, Harry's father came out of Voldemort's wand before Lily. However, since she was killed second, she should've come out first. This error was corrected later.

Darkstar

That's what that was? I always thought it had something to do with the wand weighing, but I was always too lazy to look it up. But now that I think about it, I had noticed that before; I just never got really upset over it. It is just a book! lol Yeah right, then why am I here all the time?
Thanks for the info darkstar.
~Gaia

consarndit! I had noticed that one, and I was absolutely convinced it was going to be important in later books...like that someone else had killed Jamies, only using Voldie's wand. Well, thanks darkstar. I actually have that thing in my fic I'm working on, so I'll just pretend I never asked until I'm done writing it

Lily

Um... since we're talking wand order...

Why did Cedric come out of Voldemort's wand? It was Pettigrew who killed him (Kill the spare) and I don't think Voldemort lents out his wand...

Jennifer

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Why did Cedric come out of Voldemort's wand? It was Pettigrew who killed him (Kill the spare) and I don't think Voldemort lents out his wand...

He did. Remember, Harry saw Tom's name on the wand. We don't even know if Peter has a wand anymore since he lost it when he escaped Sirius all those years back. I think that's what the silver hand is gonna be for, but I guess we'll see soon enough.

Okay thanks. Didn't remember that bit.

Jennifer

EDITED: Hey... wait a minute. Wasn't that the stone where we saw the name? I said nothing about a name on the wand. I just checked it out...

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in book 3 we find out that James died first followed by Lily. we know this because of the dementor thing. then in book 4 when harry and voldemort have that wand connection thing, the dead people come out in REVERSE order since they were killed, in other words most recent first. But when this happens James comes out first and if he died before Lily shouldn't he come out 2nd as Lily's death was more recent? I was just thinking about this and wondered if anyone else has noticed. do u think that JK made a mistake or that it's some big plot thing?

I heard that was a mistake and was hastly fixed in later editions of the book.

I've heard two different things about that point.

1.) It was a mistake and Rowlings forgot about what she wrote in book three. I don't know if this was ever varified seeing as I had a first edition book, before they reprinted more. Eventually I'll walk over to Walmart and look it up, but for now I'm going to believe this one.

2.) This was done on purpose and it had something to do with the dealings of being dead. Some say that Lily was afraid to see Harry again, because she thought he might be mad at her for sacraficing herself instead of running and saving the both of them. Later on after the fifth book came out others said that James had a natural 'Me First' personality, which made him want to go first and make sure everything was ok before letting his wife come out.

right
thanks guys that was useful

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OK, I was reading GoF a few days ago and as I was reading the graveyard scene I noticed something strange about the "ghosts" who came out of Voldemort's wand. According to Dumbledore the "reversal" spell shows what a wand has done but backwards. So of course out comes Cedric, and then the old man, after that the wandering MoM lady ---heres the important part--- then James and after him Lily!!!!! Am I mistaken to say that we were told James died before Lily trying to protect them? If this is right then James died after Lily did, what could that mean?

Whats everyones thoughts on this?

I've heard this mentioned somewhere. There was a mistake in the book, and later copies have been fixed, I think. Now you're going to make me check my addition, but I'll have to do it later. I think maybe mugglenet.com covers this in book mistakes.

Thats right Neville Belgarath in the earlier editions of GoF the order of James and Lily was wrong. It was corrected for the later editions. A small editorial prob that slipped past JK.

im Nobody

In the first books, it was James who came out of the wand and then Lily. This would mean that James died after Lily.

In a later live review, JKR said that she just made a mistake. I hardly believe that JKR could just make a mistake with as thurough as she is in her writings.

Now at her web-site, she posted that it was an American publisher that brought it to her attention and that is why some books were writen with a correction showing Lily first. But as it turns out, her original manuscript was correct, which means the original book were correct and James died after Lily.

When one of the first movies was being fillmed, JKR insisted that Voldemorts confrontation with James be left out, and only show Lily dieing and saving Harry from Voldemort. Interesting ha...

In POA Harry tells Lupin he hears, "Lily, take Harry and go! It's him! Go! Run! I'll hold him off---". Harry tells Lupin that he heard his dad, and Lupin has a strange reaction to this, WHY? Maybe the voice wasn't James, Harry never heard his dads voice before, he just assumes its him.

If it was James, I think Voldemort thinks he kills him then goes upstairs, kills Lily and you know the rest. Now Voldemort is nothing but a puff of smoke and leaves. Someone went back in to pick up his wand, a traitor, and killed James. Pettigrew kept the wand and later gave it back to Voldemort.

Now in SS/PS, Voldemort tells Harry, " I killed you father first, and he put up a corageous fight...but your mother needn't have died". Was Voldemort sure he killed James and not just knocked him out?

And why was the house destroyed? How did Harry live through that?

Well, that's my two cents.