Say, what exactly is the quality in our sweet little Girl Ginny, which drives the chocolate hero (lol) mad after our red star? why is Draco mad after her? why is she so sexy? why is he so sexy? why the couple of them is so sexy? (err i am trailing off the real topic.)

Discuss the qualities of ginny which you think attract Draco, and which are sweet.......Will she be good in the be........(gets a whack for perviness)


Edited topic title to make it more OT -- Moogle

I think that the lack of knowledge about Ginny would attract Draco. He doesn't know anything about her, yet she's so firey at times and then dull the next moment. He can't figure out why she would want Harry.

Or maybe it's her common type beauty that makes him ponder. She did grow up with all boys, so he can't figure out why she's so beautiful yet rough at the same time.

Perhaps it's the fact that she stands up to him and won't take anything he says to/about her lying down. She just won't let him believe that he is God and it drives him nuts, and it drives him nuts that she thinks that she's good enough to talk to him. (pieces of my fic showing out, oops...)

Er- babbling again. I really need to stop *walks off shaking her head*

I personally think that the first thing that would attract her to him is her apparent innocence. Oh, yes, he'd love to taint her... And after that, just anything about her would seem desirable, I guess. -Carla.

Do I dare begin? Eh, maybe I'll just leave it alone. After all, its love. A whole bunch of galleons to the one who can successfully explain love and make my eyes shine in understanding. Mainly, because they're opposites. Fire and Ice. Fire melts the ice; Ginny softens Draco a bit...?? Ice freezes fire; Draco manages to tame Ginny's wild spirit....?? *confused* Or maybe its just that Draco is so stunningly sexy, his presence makes Ginny freeze up. He makes me melt, to tell you the truth. Melt in a puddle of goo. But that's irrelevant.

And you've got to admit, there's just this thing about forbidden love that makes it so irresistable. I mean, c'mon, who doesn't like to read about conflict? Ok, so Draco loves her because she's so different from him, and she's so out of reach. Doesn't he like a challenge? And what starts out as curiosity turns into undying love because he discovers Ginny Weasley and loves everything about her. Yadda yadda yadda.

I was wondering if sky_is_blue was a guy or a girl.

The person said Draco was sexy...so I'm guessing it's a girl? = )

XxKkAnGxX Erm... It really doesn't matter is sky_is_blue is a girl or not. Lots of guys do like Draco. Not all of them are gay.

Look at me : My level of obsession could easily be attributed more to Harry than Hermione. One could argue on the way I ship Harry/Any Girl that I have a crush on Harry instead of Hermione. I've been mistaken for a girl before too... that was... Err... you get my point.

If you are a D/G shipper - you might know her as Supergrrl (did I get it right?) Read her fics, I just started on them

NAPPA

I, personally, think that Draco might be attracted to Ginny because of Tom. Or at least that could be one of the reasons that he's interested in her in the first place. What could be greater to a Malfoy, than being inhabited by a freaking Dark Lord, Tom Riddle at that. She's already tainted, so he wouldn't really think much about doing that. And that would make her lose some of her innocence too don't you think? It would make her more skeptical of Draco in the first place, just because of his family's association with the Dark Arts. At first she might think that he's just using her, just like Tom did.


But, Ginny could also be attracted to Draco's "darkness". Maybe after Tom, she's found she has a liking for the dark guys, even if they are a bit risky. Maybe she wants to know more about the dark arts now that she's been through so much that had to do with them. Maybe she doesn't always want to be Good Little Ginny.

*shrugs* That's just my two cents.

MalfoyMyFerret

Fire and Ice? I would say that definately Draco IS Ice, but do have qualms about Ginny being fire but like so many off you have put it so expertly that "Who doesn't like conflict?" and beisdes Ginny as told by Ron many times has an impish nature and i think for a person as calm and calculated as Draco a good combo of impish habbits and serene good-naturedness would be quiet an attraction. Now if we take it fanon wise it would seem that as Ginny stood up to Draco in second book or second movie, Draco would like it. In fanon we tend to make Draco a very sexy and charming guy who likes to manipulate everyone except the trio into liking him and wanting him and as so obiously Ginny opposed Draco in the second book, draco would dearly like to seduce/threaten/humilate Ginny. But Ginny wont prove an easy fish. She would fight it and i think would be able to hold her own. This would attract Draco. Draco doesn't sound the type of guy who would go for any girl that fawns over her. He would like some competation. Furious competation. and i think Ginny would be able to provide that....


Hey Draco is likeble enough. And guys do go and read Supergirl's stories, they are just brilliant.

Oh Nappa! you have been thought of as a girl?
No comment....(goes all read and needs air...)
well youren't the only one....

I think Ginny would be attracted to Draco because of a teen rebelion issue. In the eyes of her family she is a sweet little angel . In growing up and seeking her own idenity, not as a weasley, but as Ginny, she might go against the wishes family and date the bad boy at school. For most girls it is just a faze, so unless upon getting to know Draco he is not such a bad guy, or Ginny somehow changes him, it probably wouldn't last.

for Draco, it could be several issues, rebelion, (his family hates the Weasleys), or it could be that she is a mystery to him.

Draco + Ginny =

Lol, I like how you put it, Mogliecat. Draco+Ginny= .

Btw, MMM, very good points you raised.

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Hey Draco is likeble enough. And guys do go and read Supergirl's stories, they are just brilliant.

Yes, of course Draco is likeable...no, wait--loveable suits him better, right? *blush* You make me blush as red as a tomato.

#1 reason Draco gave Ginny a second glance: the red Weasley hair.

can you pleASE explain the lAst post?

Heh, if you think about it too, Lucius, in a sense, has 'picked' Ginny already, just by giving her Tom Riddle's diary.

He must know she's capable of being evil

Hehehehe

Heaven

Now Evil Ginny is what i like most! Evil Ginny and either Harry or Draco in tho--( ) What am I saying...
(whacks his head repeatedly before running off)

*meep* Ginny....with....Harry? *faints* No! Okay, okay, I admit I can sometime stomach H/G...but I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE D/G. *tear* And no amount of Digimon whapping will get me to change my mind. *looks at confused faces* What? Have you never heard of Digimon whapping? Hm....Guess not. Well, it's when you're friend swings around his/her digimon giga pet and hits you with it. *nod* My H/D rabid friend enjoys whapping me when I talk about D/G....but now I'm getting off the topic.

Cheerios!
MalfoyMyFerret

Sorry. Up there^^^ I meant to say H/G but she does also like H/D....but eugh! No slash please! *cowers*

MalfoyMyFerret

Hate to admit it, but slash can be super-sexy. I mean, why is it that guys can like to see lesbian girls and think that's hot, but it's taboo to think two guys together are hot. As long as the guys are hot...and not Draco, because, well, he's Ginny's (and mine, but I like to live vicariously through Ginny). Part of what makes Ginny attractive is that she is impervious to his charms and is different from other girls, but once he wins her over she'll love him more (and better...hehe) than anybody else could. Draco and Ginny would have a great sex life. I mean, at first, Draco will be the one who knows what he's doing (and is great in bed) and Ginny will be a little innocent and scared, but Draco will love her so much he'll be really nice and won't mind that she's not a fox in the bedroom. In fact, it'll probably make her even more appealing to him.

hmmmmm...
i guess fist of all he gets to piss off ron an' harry
she's different from the rest of the weaslys more "fiery", spunky, witty you get the idea
her lovely hair, i luv red hair
oh i have no idea, i'm just new and feel the need to post something.
that's all i can think of anyway

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Hate to admit it, but slash can be super-sexy. I mean, why is it that guys can like to see lesbian girls and think that's hot, but it's taboo to think two guys together are hot.

Gah! I know exactly what you mean! *growls at stupid boys* lol only kidding! Wow, getting a bit OT...

Anyway, I really love the idea of Draco finding Ginny's virginity appealing. I mean hey, it's special to be a girl's first time! *sighs* I'm actually thinking of writing a fic like this don't know if i'd be able to make it good though

Do yall know what would be funny (since we're on the topic of their sex life) If Draco was the Virgin and Ginny was the experienced one *cackles madly* That would be really funny, and amusing. Ginny would probablly laugh at him. Hmm I'm going to go write a cookie on that...

Nicole (sorry for the OT-ness)

LoL Kaykos, nice idea for a cookie there...lol

hehe thanks for the compliment Crystal! *beams* the cookie was rather interesting...

Do any of you like the whole redeemed aspect of their relationship? Personally, I hate it... I wish it would die. hehe. Seriously though... Draco has been raised dark, evil, and sinister; and Ginny was corrupted down in the chamber, so neither one could redeem the other. Now that would be funny to see Draco trying to redeem Ginny! lmao!

Nicole

I just don't think Draco is really really evil. Corrupted maybe, he likes the pleasure of seeing other people in the dumps.

He's just this brat, that gets what he wants most of the time and carries a grudge plus he is quite a coward at times.

Sorry to say this but he isn't the bravest banana in the bunch. I mean NO offence to anyone, just an opinion that I harbour.

Ginny corrupted? Somewhat, I would think, after the mental repercussions of the Chamber.

She is the type to get what she wants by going through other various means. Actually she can be like Malfoy a little now and then, being a tad manipulative

The vibe I can get from her is that her character, when it comes down to banishing evil, she wouldn't be at the forefront or in it at all, she'll be on the sidelines watching to see who wins, sipping Mai Tai's till its over.

Oh cripes, me thinks I went a lil OT. Ah, that means I need food.

Cheers!

Has anyone read MochaButterfly's A Vampire Temptress? Seductres Gin seducing Draco...a wonderful read, and even if it's unlikely that's kinda why D/G work for me. You just don't get that kind of thrill from H/G, which is just sweet and innocent and fluffy.

I have tryed and tryed to understand this particular pairing and I just can't. Frightningly enough it seems to be even more prevelant that H/G or H/Hr. It is not my intention to start a fight or to degrade anyone's opinion, but I would love to see even the tiniest bit of canon evidence that this is even possible. I read the books (and only the novels I couldn't care less about FB or QTTA) again last week trying vainly to see where this came from. Can someone PLEASE explain to me the motivation behind this.

Well i cant really throughly explain it but, like someone said b4, we don't know Ginny or Draco's real personality because they only show up like 3 or 4 times in the book. They show no personality of Ginny whatsoever in Canon and Draco? well we dont know anything that goes around in his house. His father might be paying Draco a million galleons to just insult the mudbloods and the Dream Team.. and besides most people who write D/G hate slash and they usually like them together because their opposites.... Fire/Ice, Weasel/Ferret, Weasley/Malfoy, Poor/Richie Rich, etc...........
Oh SHIT! i wrote like 7 sentences! a new Record 4 me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Beautiful question lordmandrake, but to make it easier on all of us and to get more responses I've started a new thread titled 'for all the non-believers'. I'm sure many people will be more than happy to tell you why they like D/G over there *waves* Have fun! As soon as some people post, I'll tell you my opinion there so it doesn't look like I'm a complete dweeb and have nothing better to do than post

Nicole

I think it might be the mystery that Ginny is. How she can be innocent and fragile then fiery and determined the next? I mean, she is like this really meek and mild girl when she's around Harry and she follows him around like a puppy. But then she steps up and tells big bad Draco to leave Harry alone. Isn't that intriguing?
"The little Weasley has a backbone after all."

Ginny/Draco isnt meant to be canon necessarily....we have no proof since we know little about either of the characters. We just like the idea....*sigh*

Anyhow, yeah, I think Draco is a manipulative sort but not necessarily evil. In a house with his father, he should either follow his footsteps or rebel and go for good. It depends on what happens to him....for a good Draco, something has to catalyze the rebellion, he cant just suddenly wake up and be all like "You know what? Evil sucks! Fight the Darklord!". OOC parody cookie? Perhaps...

Raini

Sorry if I make no scense ahead of time...

Anyway, first of all, I think she represents something he can't have. It's natural human instinct that you want what you don't or can't have! One reason for that, is she's a Weasley, he's 'higher' than her family. And, his Father would go MAD if he found out. Although...both of their familes are pure-bloods, am I right?

K, my next reason. Like other people on here have said, maybe it's cause no one can figure her out. Is she quiet? Shy? Plus, she stands up to him, challenges his authority and shows she's not afraid of him.



Note to any D/G non-believers: We don't know if this will happen, but...we can wish can't we!? hehehe

Bravo! Excellent question! Well, in my point of view, Ginny wouldn't be attracted to him at first. Maybe the innocence happens, she sees how she really is, his pure and untainted side that he only lets her see. And she just sort of is enamoured into his world, you know? Like she developes a special connection with the guy. Since Lucius is exceedingly mean and unfatherly to Draco, he may need love and she is willing to give it to him. Maybe it's because of his sexiness? Sexy sexy sexy... Draco... Hahaha, can you believe it? This is coming out from a "naive" and insophisticated 11-year old! Oo, mom, I didn't read any NC-17 fanfictions, don't worry. Untainted, yeah... that's Ginny and Draco, not innocent, really blends well, eh?

I agree that on Draco's part, she is something he can't and shouldn't have. I like the opposites idea between the two of them. Their financial status, their familial roots, their looks, etc. This really fuels their lust and desire because they are such opposites. Opposites attract. But they do share similar qualities though. Well, fanonically though.

well personally, i agree with heaven in that lucius 'picked' ginnerz by giving her toms diary. but then, i agree with heaven on almost everything. but it is intriguing to think how evil ginny could be capable of being. personally i dont think shed become a death eater or anything, but i dont think shed jump to be hero-hero like our trio or anything.

but similarly, i actually think ginny is attracted to draco because he must remind her a slight bit of tom - meanspirited and slytherin and definitely not the 'best' for her. one of the many d/g plots ive read is where she falls in love with him but then does not want to admit to it because shes afraid it will be tom all over again.

but thats where the redemption issue can be done tastefully, draco isnt tom and wouldnt kill ginny. [IMO i think all 'cliches' can be done well, once in a while]

I can't believe I never saw this thread in all my time being a D/G shipper here.

Now this question I think is very good. It really asks us why we think D/G is even plausible (if at all), and makes us really consider the two characters we see.

Personally, I think Ginny would go for Draco because he's different to the boys she knows and presents a challenge. (Not to mention is sexy *cough*)

I can see her wanting to find out more about him, with her curiousity getting the better of her, and liking his odd snarky ways. To me, Ginny could like Draco because she needs someone strong to handle her.


As for Draco. Well I think he would like her feistiness (even if it took him a while to admit it), and again she's different and presents a challenge. I think he needs to fight for his love, and Ginny makes him do that.

^ What she said.

I think Draco would like that Ginny's not some simpering idiot (aka Pansy Parkinson).

And I think Ginny would like that Draco wouldn't suffocate her or coddle her, as she felt Dean did (remember when she got upset with him because she thought he was trying to help her through the portrait into Gryffindor Tower?)

You just presented me with an interesting insight. Do we really know that Pansy is a simpering idiot, or is it indeed fanon that has treated her this way? I tend to see her more as a malicious harpy, myself.

And you're right. Draco wouldn't coddle her. He'd let her be her own person, as he's not surrounded by people viewing her as the baby of the family or the precious girl. I think Ginny would find that very attractive.

Pansy is someone that shows being fool, but actually is fooling everyone. Yeah, I feel about it about her too. I don't know what people think about her but in my opinion, she is very self-centred and does everything to get what she wants. She wants Draco, but I don't think because she likes him. She knows that he is very rich, his family is very tradicional and one of the most important family in the wizarding world. She wants status. She is a pretty girl, but not exceptionally pretty. She knows that she can be threatened. First she was worried about Hermione (the muggle-born very talented that showed to be a truly beauty). Draco mocks Hermione and seems to hate her as much as he hates Harry, but he NEVER did anything against her, even when she slapped him, on opposite of Harry.
Ginny is a major problem. She is not an outstanding student, put she is very talented, popular, good at quidditch and worse, very beautiful. It's impossible to pretend that she isn't as she tried to do with Hermione that stayed hidden by her hair and front teeth. Ginny is different. No one can deny her beauty. Worse: Draco noted it. She's poor, but she has everything that she needs. She's independent. She say what she thinks. She doesn't tolerate who she doesn't want. Her father is poor, but there's only her and Ron depending on him now. The twins are becoming rich and they help their parents. She has a personality that Draco admires in a woman.
Draco seems to be a guy that truly knows what he want and how to get it. He is the "good looking" prince of slyterinth. Rich. Powerful and... Hot. Who is better than the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter to handle this? Pansy Parkinson knows she has no chance.

I think you're right about that. Pansy is certainly shrewd enough to know that Ginny is a very real threat, and probably would do all in her power to stop that relationship (though I admit I love the fics where Pansy becomes her friend). I also agree with you in the fact that she just wants Draco for status. I don't really see her being the type to consider her feelings much. She really is the perfect society woman.

You know, it's interesting that you point out that Draco NEVER does anything to Hermione. He's actually quite the gentleman in that respect, despite the fact that he has said cruel things to her in the past. I think that speaks volumes for his character. He really is just a school bully, but he's not ruthless--at least not to females.

You know, these two (Hermione and Ginny) probably made Pansy lose LOTS of sleeping nights .

He said some rude things to Hermione, things that she never cared, you know. How many nights Pansy lost thinking what could be behind this, specially after the Yule Ball?

And Draco admiting (loudy, I supose) that he finds Ginny pretty. He must have looked her a lot. Oh, my! I feel sorry for the girl!

Does Draco actually admit he found Ginny pretty though? I thought it was Blaise who says that she is pretty, or is it Draco? Gah, I think I need to read HBP again.

Me too. But I think he did since Pansy knows that he finds.

Actually, I'm thinking Pansy is asking Draco what he thinks of Ginny, but Draco is silent, and it is Blaise who answers.

I'm curious now, so I think I'll have to go check my book.

Yeah, check because I'm saying this relying in my memory.

Righto, this is taken from pp. 143-144.

Uhmm... there's an old Brazilian saying that says "Who disdain wants to buy".

Hehe, I like your philosophy. It is a bit odd that Draco says nothing though. Even when they carry on with their conversation he makes no further reference to Ginny, even though he cared enough to make that remark in the first place--even using italics for emphasis.

EXACTLY. Seriously, every time I see that quote I squeal. Really bad. Because there is just so much that is left unsaid. Marcella, this proves that Pansy did notice Ginny. And like you said, she may come across as that but she is very shrewd, locking positions in the Slytherin Crown area, "mean girl" and so on. She probably knows what type of girls that Draco likes, hence the glancing at Draco. She didn't have to glance at Draco. And I find his silence interesting, he said nothing not eveMalfoy sank back across her lap[/i]n after.

Malfoy sank back across her lap

I find that interesting, because of the "back" did he become suddenly alert for this conversation? Yes I love my delusions *goes to find fic*

You know what they say, silence speaks volumes, and I think his silence definitely speaks volumes for what he was thinking.

Draco did sit up abruptly at learning that Ginny and Neville were invited to Slughorn's groupie, but he mentioned Neville first, so I don't know how much we can bank on that. Still, the fact that he said something in the first place (and you're so right about Pansy looking at him) suggests that he has at least given it thought.

Oh man, I remember reading that quote for the first time, and immediately loving it, because it really says so much.



This is something that's really interested me for a long time, so I'm going to, er, wax poetical about it for a bit. Bear with me, guys. *Cracks knuckles*

I think in terms of canon, we've enough evidence to conclude that Pansy's both a simpering idiot and a malicious harpy. Simpering as far as the way she grovels at Draco's feet constantly, and malicious as far as the way she joins in making fun of Harry, et al.

It's funny, because for the most part, the Pansy I see in the fandom is either written by a D/G lover, or a D/G hater. And D/G haters love to say that Pansy is...well, canon Pansy. D/G lovers, however, love to say that Pansy's Draco's best mate, that she's a b*tch sometimes - okay, a lot of times - because she's just so fiercely independent and sexy and her own woman, la di da. I have to admit, as a D/G lover, I do portray Pansy as a ballsy type, sometimes even like the female version of Draco. A Victoria Beckham-type figure, in a weird way. Almost like Ginny herself, only Pansy's rich and flaunts it.

I forgot where I was going with this.

D/G shippers are intellectual, totally fair and kinda totally awesome? Yeah LOL JKS! I think we like Draco therefore we make him hang out with awesome girls who are totally flawed in a bitchy way that you can't help but love them? But I do see where you're coming from.

Ok why would Draco make the perfect guy for Ginny?


I think Ginny, needs someone who can totally encourage her, someone who's laid-back I mean not that Draco is laid-back but in that way that he'll be combative - NVM. But he's combative and Ginny needs some fire and ice. The opposites attract thing, she's hot-headed and cool and calm which I think she needs. But she needs a little bad-boy, a little danger, a little excitement, he won't shelter her and he's perfect for her. YOUR TURN. Try and be cooler than me

Everything you said is true!

It's true that Draco would never shelter her. He'll keep on insulting her, keep on expecting the best out of her, keep her on her toes.

Ginny didn't work with Michael Corner because he wanted her to follow him in every way. The Quidditch thing, for example. Whereas Draco would be all "We're going to beat your sorry arses today".

Ginny didn't work with Dean Thomas because he was...too sickeningly gentlemanly. The helping her through the portrait hole thing? See, Draco would never do something like that. He'd probably shove her a little bit in a race to beat her, or something.

And then Harry. Dear, sweet Harry, who thought that keeping her far away was best for her. Draco would never do that - he'd rely on Ginny to watch his back as they rode off to fight enemies...or something. I bet they have duels sometimes just for kicks.