My friend and I were visiting a lot of theory and rumor sites and came up with one of our own about Lily Evans not being a Muggle Born exactly. I think that Lily’s parents might have been Squibs that went to live in the Muggle World which explains why everyone would assume Lily was one too.

My reasons to support this:

1) JKR hinted that we were going to learn more about Lily in book 5 and some of it would be surprising

2) JKR also said that someone who previously didn’t have any magical talent will suddenly acquire some. Petunia perhaps? by the way that would be just FUNNY).

3) Lily’s parents were thrilled when Lily was accepted to Hogwarts (wouldn’t you be if you were a squib?)

Well, that’s all I have so far but someone will probably either come up with something to support or contradict me on this. Anyway, what do you guys think?

Heard it here first (I think)

Oy! Angie

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I think that Lily’s parents might have been Squibs that went to live in the Muggle World which explains why everyone would assume Lily was one too.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong please, but aren't Squibs Muggles who take a special course to learn magic? Like if two wizards had a Muggle child, they would take the course and become a Squib. So technically Lily would still be a Muggle even if her parents were Squibs, right? But I guess it would be slightly different, because she would have grown up in the wizarding world all of her life.

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2) JKR also said that someone who previously didn’t have any magical talent will suddenly acquire some. Petunia perhaps? by the way that would be just FUNNY).

LMAO! That would be funny! I'm not up on my spoilers, so I hadn't read that one yet. But now that I do, it makes me think that the one person that would suddenly aquire magical talent would be Hagrid. His name is just the one that jumped to my mind when I read that. Because if they can somehow prove what they learned in CoS, couldn't the Ministry of Magic give him back at least some of his powers? Because it said magical talent, which he doesn't really have. All he has is a broken wand hidden in a pink umbrella.
But I could also be completely off base here. Please tell me what ya think.
~Gaia

Squibs are people from magical families who have no magical blood in them. Kinda like the opposite of muggle borns.

To me, I've always seen Lily to grow up thinking Witches and wizards were just fairytale. I have been looking through the books just now and found a quote telling us-

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"Because my mother died to save me. My common muggle-born mother"

However, we all know JKR likes to keep us on our toes,it could be that Lily is not muggleborn after all.

As for Petunia getting magical powers that would be VERY funny!
Hagrid does seem very probable and it would be very cool if Hagrid could have magic. Just think what the COMC lessons would be like but it couldn't it also be Filch who's been taking a Quickspell course?
And, if it says magical talent it could be Neville.
~*~Karen~*~

Hagrid is already magical so it would not be him. He just had his wand snapped so he could not use his magic. (he uses magic when picking up harry for school in the first year).

As for Lily not being muggle born, I don't think that's what JKR meant about learning things about her.

My bet is on one of our dear sweet Demonic Dursley's learning magic and maybe figting for the dark side.

In HPatSS, Aunt P. says that Lily was her sister, so if Aunt P. is a muggle, so is Lily.

If Petunia is a Muggle; Lily IS a Muggle born witch, like Hermione because she would have to be a real sister to share the 'blood' that Lily and Harry share.

1) JKR hinted that we were going to learn more about Lily in book 5 and some of it would be surprising

We don't find out anything about Lily in book 5. that was simply a rumour.

2) JKR also said that someone who previously didn’t have any magical talent will suddenly acquire some. Petunia perhaps? (by the way that would be just FUNNY).

This could also mean Dudley, Hagrid or even Neville finding his magical powers.

3) Lily’s parents were thrilled when Lily was accepted to Hogwarts (wouldn’t you be if you were a squib?)

Yes, but it could happen if Petunia's and Lily's family had an ancestor who was a squib and the secret was carried down from one generation to the next.

Lily has to be a muggle-born, since it's been stated that Harry is a halfblood, and for him ti be a halfblood he has to have both wizard and muggle ancestry.

Umm... Intersting theory, Angelina.

But, as PK-mates stated above, Lily has to be a Muggle-born, since Petunia is one. ANd in OotP, there was no 'incredible' revelation about Lily, that had been a rumor... so yeah, do we all approve that Lily is a Muggle-born? *everyone nods*

Good good.

Anto

Now I'm really not sure about Lilys parents. Maybe only one parent was a wizard and the other a muggle. Petunia is a squib. I don't know how wlse to answer that fact that her parents were so proud that day Lily got her letter. We have a witch in the family!!!! (Somehow they knew about witchcraft)

Dudley did see the dementors, maybe he will find some power, or maybe Feltchs mail lessons will help him.

I'm already correcting myself. If they said "we have a witch in the family", they didn't say we have another witch in the family. Maybe her parents were like Hermiones parents. I still don't understand why they would immediately be so proud though.

I was just thinking...Harry wouldn't be half-blood if Lily wasn't a muggle-born, right? Because we know for sure that James is pure-blood.

Yep if Lily wasn't a muggle born then Harry would be a pureblood not a halfblood.

Gems

The ties of half-bloodedness that link Harry to Voldemort are too important to sever, I think. And the poor guy has far too much on his plate to handle having his ancestry turned on his ear!

However, it's an interesting theory, and it would give Petunia's rejection of the magical life more depth - she would be more likely to be prejudiced if she had been brought up in a wizarding family and had turned out a Squib why Lily became a witch.

But it's all speculation. I'm not even sure of my name at the moment!

~Nelli.

Dudley didn't see the dementors, he just sensed them. It was said that muggles couldn't see dementors, but they could sense when they were near.

If Petunia's dad or mom would've been a witch or wizard, Petunia would've reacted so badly when Lily was accepted into Hogwarts and called her a freak.

Lily's grandparents
Did JKR let something slip?

Well on J.K.R'S website she revealed what a mudblood, halfblood, and pureblood are and it resembles exactly the way Hitler classified them but this is the interesting part on her website

This could mean that Lily's parents were witches but they were classified as mugbloods because their parents were muggles

Therefore in conclusion in order to be a pureblood your great grandparents have to be be witches and wizards. Well thats about it so tell me what you think

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In the non-English language versions of JKR's site, her answer about Harry being a half-blood specifically refers to Harry's maternal grandparents (sus abuelos maternos, ses grands-parents maternels, etc.), i.e. Lily's parents. The English answer mentions Lily's grandparents. So which is it?

Umm we all knew from OOTP that Lily was muggle born. So what would be the slip up? Teenage Snape called Lily a mudblood in the book so its safe to assume her parents and their parents were muggles. Unless you think both of Lily's parents wee squibs hehe.

My personal opinion, I think its a misprint of 'maternal grandparents' or 'mother's parents'. She's made misprints before that were later corrected. Thenagain, JKR could be trying to confuse us. You just never know with her.

Eric

I think JKR ment Lilys Parents, therefore Harrys Grandparents.

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Yeah , what JKR meant was that Harry could be considered Half blood becuase his grandparents from his mother'sside were muggles , therefore Lily was a Muggleborn.