What does "Red Herring" mean?

I hear it at times and I heard that many Herons consider H/Hr moments to be "Red Herring."

So, what does it mean since I don't see it in the glossary.

Red Herring isn't net lingo or such, it's a literary device.



JKR is famous for using red herrings in her stories. An example of a red herring JKR has used is making us think Snape was the bad guy in SS/PS when it really was Quirrel.

You know, i try to stay out of the fight between H/Hr and Hr/R but after the HBP i'm furious. I'm reading sforums here and muggle.net and this Harmony and Heron stuff, where did this come from? Anyone like to give me a background from where this pop up?

A Harmonian is an H/HR shipper.

A Heron is a H/R shipper.

HARry/herMiONEE. Harmony.

HERmione/RON. Heron.

I have not been on h/h fan sites in ages...mostly I just sit at fanfiction.net and read and write about it. But since "The Interview" lol...I have gotten back onto a couple shipper sites. I guess I am just behind on the times but I was just wondering what OTP standed for. I saw it not in the context of being the initials for Order of the Pheonix which I know OotP anyways. Well, can anybody help? I am just feeling really lost. Thanks

Answered question in a PM. Closing this topic. -Sarmi

haha, so many of those are soop crazy i LMAO (see list if you don't know). I think I'll start using them just for the heck of it. hahahahaha

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kiss of the dark xoxox -ssblood

what means Tissue warning in fanfics?

The story is going to make you cry

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~gal-texter / Pen Jun2008

Hi, everybody! I'm new to the forums, and I was confused by people mentioning things like 'she's a heron/chocolate shipper.'
Will somebody PLEASE help me?
Thanks!

GO HARRY POTTER!

Hi Siggy and welcome to PK Well Herons are Ron and Hermione shippers and a Chocolate shippers ship Harry and Ginny.

HeyLeena Cloud isn't Orange Crush the Harry/Ginny ship?

Ginny
xxx

It is in my book!

Not exactly. It is one of the catchalls for those who ship both H/G and R/Hr (carrot-red hair).

Where? Orange Crush is the Fiction Alley Park name for H/G. OBHFW is the catch all for R/Hr & H/G shippers.

Just a tad more thoughts from me . . .



That's correct--Orange Crush is not the name of the shippers, but the ship itself (at least in the FAP SCUSA registry). However, I've also heard the H/G ship called Chocolate because of something that happened in OotP, I think. So that's where you get the term Chocolatiers. Don't ask me which one to use--I'm certainly not qualified in H/G.

One Big Happy Weasley Family (OBHWF) implies both the H/G ship (Orange Crush) and the R/Hr ship (Good Ship R/H), since that neatly lops everybody into the Weasley family by marriage. H/Hr is of course deeply contradictive of anything of the sort.

As an H/Hr shipper, I find that it's easy to assume (mistakenly) that all H/G shippers are in fact R/Hr shippers and vice versa. Therefore, they are separately distinguished from OBHWF, which does imply both ships simultaneously.

~Jonathan

EDIT: Me am unable to form the sentences!

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Hi, Jennifer! Am merging this now into a related thread. To readers: please note that some Portkey-ers don't mind this interview. I'm one of them. ~gal-texter/Pen, PK co-admin May 2008)

Hey guys!
Now I have another very important question. WHAT THE BLOODY HELL IS THE IOD ALL ABOUT! All I keep hearing about is that JKR said something or other very nasty about H/Hr shippers in an interveiw, but for the life of me I can't find it. I'd like to read it for myself. Can someone help me out here please?!
Katie

http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview.shtml

I believe this is it. Interview of Doom. Although it goes by many names.

Thanks for the direction. Now I see why You fellow shippers were all so pissed off. Now I am too! If she wants people to keep reading her books, she should learn to be a little more patient with people like us. I know it's her book and all, but that doesn't give her the right to say things like that to people who are paying money for books that are basically her sallery. But we shouldn't be telling her how to wright her book either. Mabye if we shippers just stuck our stories and she sticks to her books, we wouldn't be having this problem now would we?
Thanks again! Katie

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~gal-texter / Pen 27Apr2008

I always find the term Choco together with Heron... now I know Heron means Hermione and Ron and HARMONY means Harry and Hermione so whats Choco???


Yes... i know i'm stupid not knowing this...


Haha, please...I'm still kinda new to all this!

"Choco" means "A misguided attempt at making something out of nothing, usually perpetrated by unfounded hints of said Something's emergence, usually disguised as proper foreshadowing. Symptoms usually manifest after the appearance of a Gary/Jenny Sue."







JUST KIDDING.

Okay, maybe the joke was half-meant.

Anyway, Chocos are what H+G shippers are called, mainly because Ginny offered Harry chocolate.

Yes. Its roots are profound.

Then again, Harmony, Red Moon, Good Ship, etc., etc. didn't exactly emerge from the minds of scholars, if you know what I mean.

LOL. I love it.

AdamantEve, I think you had it right on that one. A brilliant and accurate assessment. Going in the Harmony Bible. Okay, well, if there's no Harmony Bible, then there should be, anyway.

(rotflmao.)

lol There should be a Harmony Bible but I thought OotP was our bible since it contained many H/Hr moments. Oh well, there are at least a few decent moments in each book.

I wonder who made up all these names for these different ships and how they all became vital and final. The internet has its ways....

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~gal-texter / Pen

Well, if we already have a bible, then it should be something like "The Anarchist's Cookbook" only, this'll be: "The Militant Shipper's Guide to Piracy: Harmony Edition" or something.

Section X: Definition of Terms

A "Heron" is defined as a "relationship founded on constant bickering and mutual disrespect, differing only from the term 'enemies' (see definition) when the behavioral pattern is mistakenly classified as 'sexual tension' (see definition)."

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"Enemies" are individuals who appear to loathe one another and mutually endeavor to hurt each other either physically, mentally, emotionally, or magically when they are within close proximity. Usually characterised by either one, or both: a) laughing maniacally in the background (by turns) at the one being hurt; or b ) namecalling (e.g. Mudblood, Nightmare, Scarlet Woman, Teaspoon, Idiot).

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"Sexual Tension," often unresolved, is defined as "a phenomenon occuring between two people attracted to one another carrying on a heated debate/discussion, as if they were fighting, yet their body language would suggest an obvious desire to stay within each other's personal space. Often characterised by stepping closer to one another to get in each other's face, whispering viciously into each other's ears, and the occasional grabbing, not necessarily on their naughty bits. Must be distinguished from 'fighting' (See definition).

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"Fighting" is defined as "having a mutual disconnection of ideals and principles and acting on such disconnection either with fisticuffs, magic, or barbed words. Distinguished from 'sexual tension' by the body language of the fighting parties. Where in sexual tension, the disagreeing parties are being drawn to one another, fighting parties draw *away* from one another, often putting a physical object between them to mark the distance (e.g. A kneazle, a book, a bloke's best friend. )


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~gal-texter / Pen

Does anyone know if there is a website that lists all of the ships? Kind of a ships' registry for lack of a better term. Any help would be appreciated.

There was a comprehensive list of all of the major (and a LOT of minor) ships in the HP universe. But that was yonks ago and I have no idea if its still around, let alone where it is.

A lot of these terms got cemented when Fiction Alley Park was the only, then biggest forum on the Web. They ship Pumpkin Pie for H/Hr, for example, based on a line in an early, popular one-shot; Harmony came from another forum.

The Harry/Ginny ship was originally and accurately called Orange Crush. After the fifth book, they switched to the very silly and shallow "Chocolate" based on that single interaction full of Ginny not understanding Harry at all.

I still call them Orange Crush myself, when I bother to call them anything at all.

Found the link! thank you all so much! Now at least I will know what the heck people are talking about.

I had that same doubt
thank you for letting us know!

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~gal-texter / Pen Jun2008

I know, that it may sound a little stupid, but could anyone tell me, what does HMS actually stand for?

I mean, I know, where Harmony and Pumkin Pie come, but what does HMS in the beginning actually mean? My thought was, that it could be "Harry Must Survive", but it could be anythink, like "Herons May Sleep"

Anyway, please answer my silly question. Thanks!

HMS = HIS/HER MAJESTY'S SHIP

REALLY?!?

AND ALL THIS TIME I THOUGHT A "CHOCO" WAS A CHO/HARRY SHIPPER!!

LMAO! RAISE UR HAND IF U FEEL STUPID LOL

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~gal-texter / Pen

Nicee!! That really made me laugh!!

I don't feel stupid, I blame the H/G shippers for having such a stupid ass name for their ship. I thought it meant Cho/Harry too. I was baseing it on being a combination of the two characters names. Like Heron or Harmony. Though, I suppose Cho/Harry would be like Chorr or something. I thought it was weird I never say Henny anywhere, I thought that's what the Harry/Ginny ship should be called. Hey, if it sounds stupid, I don't care, H/G makes me want to poke my eyes out.

~edited to add quote tags. But hey, the other ship names (incl those for PK's ships) sound stupid to other people, too.
~gal-texter / Pen 27Apr2008

They could always call it Garry..... *falls into uncontrollable laughter*

Okay, I don't mock ships often, but this whole 'putting the two together' thing always makes me laugh. Choco sounds much better, I must admit.

I know what you mean. It always reminds of Goku and Vegeta and the Fusion rituals...

*Harry and Ginny do the Fusion Dance*
Harry: FU-
Ginny: SION...
Harry & Ginny: HA!
Garry: I am Garry! Prepare to fight!
Voldemort: *blink, stabs self*

Hahahhahahahahahahahhaahhaha, OH MAN, I just got a very odd vision of Harry and Ginny doing the fusion dance!

I have one for Ron/Luna: Rona! (pronounced row-na) Like the building supply store if you live in canada you've probably heard of it.

As for Cho/Harry wouldn't it be Charry (cherry)? hehehe!




Chocolate filled with love potion muhahaha! Romilda just took a leaf from her book! Really though...Choco? hahaha that a good one Umm, just wondering how could Choco be harry/cho? there's no 'C' in Harry's name.

Hi, I was just checking through the glossary and I noticed PWP and yeah in its PG13 form it could stand for Plot? What Plot? But I wanted to let you know just in case someone out there comes across this acronym w/o checking the rating of the story and happens to be under adult age, that there is an adult meaning for this PWP that means something totally different in the R/M rated world of fanfiction.

In the R/M rated world of fanfiction PWP stands for p0rn without plot and it is definitely something kids under 18 years old should stay clear of.

That version of PWP doesn't happen much on PK but on other fanfiction sites it does and sometimes the ratings done on them are not updated for content correctly. I've come across some recently but that's ok for me since I'm adult but I wanted to warn kiddos out there to be careful.

I just wanted to put this here in case anyone didn't know about this.

see you later and I hope it helps

Yes, indeed, I feel stupid. I always thought it was Cho/Harry. To tell you the truth, Choco is the last name I'd ever guess HG shippers calling their ship.

Cherry is almost like Charry! This is definitely serendipity at its finest. To think that I'm a newbie here too ...