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RELATED TOPIC: Been plagiarised? Author Identity Stolen?

There is an author namesd "stelford" who has listed a WHOLE lot of other people's work at :


Fanfic Archive

I urge you all to look there immediately!

The one's I recognized belonged to Satashi, Babygrrl and Ryoko Blue I know there are more.

I think I'm reporting this to the site admins. It looks like he posted it all yesterday. I've checked to see if he mentions that he didn't write them but he's removed all disclaimers and references to the orginal authors and has ut his own name under author....

This is... this is sick. He's stolen work by Ryoko Blue, DemonOfTheFall, Satashi...and more.

I visited the site because someone ELSE had tried to post "Requital" but one of the mods from restrictedsection.org, where my fic is at too caught it. So I did some browsing and sure enough...

You're kidding? Please tell me you're kidding? I mean sure nothing there is mine but for it to be done at all! Especially Soul Scepter. That fic has a special place in my heart as the first HP fic I ever read. anyways, I sent the guy an email. I told him I'm gonna check with the authors to see if he has permission. If not, I'm reporting his to the site's admins...

I'm ticked off now. REALLY ticked off. Lookie what I found that someone had posted only TODAY!

Plagarism

This is seriously disturbing, the nerve of those people...

All authors please go and check if your work has been plagiarized! Then send a note to the admins on their respective sites!

Max LoneWolf

I think, no one could be that stupid to steel away so many fics without getting cought. I rather tend to believe this person played a dirty trick on a few author's.
And I wouldn't be suprised if this person is going to do that again a few days later with another synonym!
Some people have definitely too much spare time!

*Snickers* *Breaks into peals of unrestrained laughter* Honestly.
"No . . . no!
Sweet Christ, no.
Let it not be so.
For where has this world come to, if the lights of it can blow?
Out.
Let's shout, be angry at some,
Talented con-artists,
Those bastards,
Surely they'll fall faster,
In the clutches of some evil,
Of something so vile, unrestrained." Well, I could go on with my poetic interpretation, but honestly, what's the point? Plagiarism exists; it's prevalent. It won't be eradicated, completely. So you don't get credit . . . it's still read, and it's still your own.

- Chris Anderson - Veritaserum

This has been, sadly, happening quite often in this fandom. Not mentioning who's doing the plagiarizing, but Elia Sheldon, Circe, Lissanne, QuidditchMom, and even collective group works have been shamlessly ripped on ffnet and other places.

*shrug* Life sucks.

Suzaku

Whats this?! you say you saw my work posted at some site?! I think there should be a way for us to make sure our work can not be stolen, like put in something that won't let you copy and paste. MAN!! This is the second time this has happened to me, I swear if this was a legtimate book and I was a real author I would sue the ^*$&#( $#

Ryoko Blue

My friend Zimmeron, who used to have stories up on this site, has been plagarized THREE times. One person even did it on the WB Harry Potter message board, and had the NERVE to get mad at him when he confronted them.


It's really sickening how people think they can take other authors' work and post it as their own, or post it at a site and not inform the author in question....

Heaven *mad*

This is just sick. Why would someone do this? I mean, would it satisfy them to get good reviews for a story they didn't even write? Humanity at it's worse, I guess...

I suggest if you have a yahoogroup or are a memeber of a yahoogroup you should inform them of this author, maybe we can find him/her and well try to stop him/her

We flamed him good Ryoko.. I even suggested they throw him in jail where he can be raped by a 400 pound man named Bubba with 16 tatoos and size double D tits.. (dont know if im allowed to say that.. sorry if im not).. The guy is pathetic, we got him pretty good.. Also when is AoT going to be updated, cant wait!

-Makaveli

I dont believe these people...how could they even think that they could plagarise and get away with it? How freaken thick can you get? Its really to bad...they should think up story lines and write their own stories. How could you be happy when you get reviews for something that is not even your work?

No kidding, its like, boy i sure did a good job stealing that fic.. Dont see the appeal..

-Makaveli

you know i would never have known about this guy, I don't go searching the web for HP fan fiction sites anymore. Also the fact that there are so many HP fan fic sites that there's no way to find out of your work had been stolen.

So thanks guys for spotting them, all us authors really appreciate you people for doing that You're my new best friends *giving you the thumbs up*

Ryoko,

I checked, and it looks like they've gone ahead and deleted the loser. The only thing I can say for him is, he had good taste in what he stole.

FYI, I am posting his email so that others can let him know what we fandomers think of plagiarists: simon.telford@ntlworld.com.

Also, here is the email of a girl who plagiarized Ms. Scribe's fic, "This" on Snitchfiction.net: jillhartmon@yahoo.com. She had the nerve to write in her profile that this was "her best fic yet." ??????

-- babygrrl

P.S. Mak, your imagery scares me, dude.

Sorry.. think i got that out of a movie somewhere.. he deserves no less though..

-Makaveli

There are some internet watch-groups who scan for plagarism, but it's so easy for stuff to slip through the cracks. It's been a big problem on the Gundam Wing sites. I'll find out some names and give them to anyone who's interested. The best thing we can all do for each other is just keep our eyes open. We've got each other's backs;)

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We've got each other's backs

I'm down wit dat.

(sorry, couldn't help myself)

Lol- yeah, I know. Kind of silly, but true.

This sort of thing just waxes my cheese, another silly, but true phrase. I know everyone probably pounced to report the caramel bunny idiot who ripped off msscribe, but I had to send an email to them too, telling them that the longer they let her account stay up, the longer they were condoing theft. That's all it is. Theft. Absolutely disgusting. People who do this committ the number one crime in my book: the inability to think for oneself.

Take heart, msscribe and everyone else who's fallen victim...you have creativity and imagination and talent. The people stealing from you do not. You should feel pity for them. And then knock the snot out of them.

<----- That's them. After the legal beating.

<----- That's everyone, happy that the thieves are gone.

<------ That's me, disavowing all knowledge of the beating suggestion.

Death to the carmel bunny! Seriously, take a look at this reply she gave me. There are no words. I just had to post this:

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 07:58:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Jill Hartmon" <jillhartmon@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Plagiarism To: "Athena Roberts" <babygrrl_0251@yahoo.com> You know NOTHING alright so mind yo business!!!  How do you know that bitch didn't steal it from me? --- Athena Roberts <babygrrl_0251@yahoo.com> wrote: > > You work-stealing, non-writing, unoriginal, pathetic > loser. > > Your best piece of work, my ass.  I am a friend of > Ms. Scribe, the REAL author of this fic.  Take it > down, NOW. > > I am notifying the mods at Snitchfiction, and they > will be hearing from the rest of Ms. Scribe's fans > as well. > > Get a life.

OMG!

Babygrrl, that's terrible! What is the friggin' matter with these people. I think it's time for a massive flaming people...

Feeling a bit vengeful,

Darkstar

*agrees with MaKaVeLi* We had a big flaming party for all you authors out there...I told one of the site admins., too, and got a message back that said he took that "author" off the site...Makes me sick..all of it...I haven't written any fanfics, do I don't know what my reaction would be if they were stolen, but oh goodness, I was upset....*Questions her faith in humanity*
~Batgirl

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As if I could give a shit what you have to say! DISMISSED! --- Jill Mathias <Batgirl801@msn.com> wrote: > hey, I noticed that your fanfic on snitchfiction > sounded really familiar....then I remembered that I > had already read it before, when the ORIGINAL author > had posted it on portkey...How could you steal > someone's work?  That was just mean!  I was raised > not to steal things, you must have not experienced > the correct raising....This makes me sad, and very > pissed off...You are horrible!

This is the response I got from that Jill Hartmon...what a low life...
~Batgirl

hey I'm new here so hello!!

I think Jill Hartmon has uploadet another story that she has NOT redden!!!

Erg. These people really make me sick - they really do. It's the equivalent of stealing (hell, it is stealing). They've stolen something someone else has poured their heart into, they're evil! And not in the nice sense!
Erg, that caramel_bunny. She's in for some flaming I can tell.
*flicks through the fics*
Oh dear, she's taken someone else's fic. 'Her' fic titled 'Seducing Harry' is stolen from the restrictedsection.org. It's actually Jori's 'Harry Potter and the Infernal Plan' Which is a darn good read by the way. Erg. Am even more digusted now. Erg. She should be hung from a tree by her ankles. And left. As should all plaugarists (sp?)

I wonder what goes through these peoples minds when they take work that doesnt belong to them and then say it's theirs. Come on that can't be satisfying. Honestly!!

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You are doing nothing but harrassing me and I don't have to explain or prove SHIT to you. ---<xxkkangxx@hotmail.com> wrote: --------------------------------- What the f***?  How do we know that Ms. Scribe didnt steal off of you?!  Because she wrote the story before you, you freaken idiot.  Ms. Scribe finished writing the story a while ago, dumshit.  And if you can show me PROOF, like i can with Ms. Scribes work, then i wont say anything.  Just show me a place where you put this story up first.  Ms. Scribe first published it 12-28-02.  If you cant show me that you had it up first, then f*** off you lying son of a bitch.  And if you say that you didnt post it up before that date...tell me this...how did Ms. Scribe get then? Thats what i thought fuck off, and stop plagarizing other peoples work f***er.  Show me screen shots, or web adresses, of the proof i asked for, and i'll back down and apologize.   Until then how about you go and get a life, instead of stealing other peoples work. Only the stupid/and or poor steal, in other words, people who cant do jack shit for themselves. and now... you are DISMISSED bitch[/SIZE]

what the hell? she doesn't even have a good excuse...shes just bs-ing

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I've been out of town and THIS happens! I can't believe it! No way! I recognize quite a few of these. I'm sending a letter. I think she/he plagarized Cadey's fic. Flames are Coming!

Below was the "civil" email I sent to the Mods at snitchfiction:

The username of the member I am reporting for abuse is caramel_bunny
The specific type of abuse is Plagarism

http://www.snitchfiction.net/cgi-bin/stori...ory.cgi?id=2393

This story was originally posted by Lissane entitled "End of the World as We Know It" at www.restrictedsection.org

http://www.snitchfiction.net/cgi-bin/stori...ory.cgi?id=2392

This fic is my own, part of a series I've posted also on www.portkey.org under a collection called "Ginny Weasley Thinks She's In Love" and www.restrictedsection.org entitled "After The Dance"

http://www.snitchfiction.net/cgi-bin/stori...ory.cgi?id=2391

This fic is entitled "The Game" by Cadey also an author on www.restrictedsection.org

http://www.snitchfiction.net/cgi-bin/stori...ory.cgi?id=2373

This fic was originally entitled "This" and written by me and posted on www.portkey.org and www.restrictedsection.org


You may also want to check her other fics because I do not immediately recognize the rest.

Thank you,

msscribe

Hmm.. what's the e-mail for the snitchfiction mods?

"Seducing Harry" is half of a story from ffnet, which Nappa and I've discussed before.. About Hermione with a Muggle boyfriend, and asks Harry to take her virginity so her first with her boyfriend wouldn't be bad.

I'll report as soon as I find the name of the old fic.. Nappa, do you remember?

Suzaku

[EDIT] Ah. Harry Potter and the Infernal Plan.

Why do people do this? What sort of crazy satisfication to people get with stealing stories other people have written and try to pass them off as their own? You don't get paid or anything to write fanfics, all you get is recognition. How the heck do you get recognition for fics you haven't written?

This is sick, just plain sick. In my fanfic career, I've already encountered plagarisms of Cassandra Claire, Eternal Fire, Cadey, Ryoko, Lissanne, Jori, and a bunch of others I can't name off the top of my head. It's a sad fact.

P.S. Heaven, are we never going to see Zimmermon in HP fanfiction again?

Eric

Eric, we'll see Zimmeron again, but he is putting his works up on his own site, and doing it in a way that he says they won't get stolen again So hopefully soon we'll get an update!!!

I also just wrote to the snitch fanfiction site, here is my email:

Name: Heaven

Contact: you can email me here at heavenluvz@yahoo.com

The abuser: carmel_bunny

Plagarism:

All of these stories are NOT hers, despite what she says...

http://www.snitchfiction.net/cgi-bin/stori...ory.cgi?id=2373

http://www.snitchfiction.net/cgi-bin/stori...ory.cgi?id=2391

http://www.snitchfiction.net/cgi-bin/stori...ory.cgi?id=2393

The first story in question was written by MsScribe, at www.portkey.org Original title: This

The second was written by Cadey and can be found at www.restrictedsection.org Original Title: The Game

The third was written by Lissanne and is also at www.restrictedsection.org Original Title: The End of the World As We Know It

This girl has repeatedly been nasty to people who have emailed her about it, and still claims the story to be her own despite the facts that she indeed stole it. I am extremely disturbed that she would so blatantly claim these fics as her own when the TRUE authors are quite popular.

Heaven


I simply cannot believe the audacity of this girl!!! She must have absolutely no morals!

I just reported Carmel Bunny to the administration of that site, as did Heaven. I'm sure if we all report this theif she will be kicked off the site.

ooo! i remmember that fic...its in my favorites list i think...uhh...shoot...let me go look for it...i dont think it got finished though..

Sent a modified copy of Heaven's email to admin@snitchfiction.org for support.

This is sad, apparently she's 19 as well...

Max LoneWolf

It's truly a shame that people have to do something so underhanded. The original authors of these stolen fics have all worked so hard on them for themselves and the enjoyment of others and then some idiot has to come along and steal them and post under their own names. do they honestly think no one will figure it out?

lol...their either dumb or lazy...most of the time it's both. I mean, come one...at least make an attempt to re-write it into their own words. Geez. Then there are the jerks (pardon my "french"). They get sick pleasure in pissing authors and readers off.

I've been reading tons of anime fanfics for years now and plagarism has and always will be a big problem. Not much we can really do really but keep an eye out for them. They delete his/her account and they just open up a new one. I've seen that happen on ff.net once or twice.

Hee, hee!

Since it doesn't look like the mods at Snitchfiction check their email regularly, I decided to post this as a new "fic":

http://www.snitchfiction.net/cgi-bin/stori...ory.cgi?id=2397

It is entitled, Caramel_Bunny Plagiarizes. Go have a look.

Well guys, evidently, I have been suspended from posting at Snitchfiction after posting my "Caramel_Bunny Plagiarizes" fic. The question is, do I care?

Not only did they not take her down after being contacted by several of the authors themselves, they continued to let her post stolen fics!

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I have, with regret, placed both parties here under suspension while I investigate the allegation of plagiarism, as well as considering the abuse of the strictly fiction-only archive by the party making the public complaint. In future, if either party has a question or comment, please email me and await our response; no courteous query will be ignored and every reasonable complaint is investigated, but we cannot always respond straight away due to "Real Life" commitments.  We will deal with this matter as quickly and as fairly as we are able. Yours, Auror [Our ref: jillhartmon, babygrrl, allegation of plagiarism]

*shrugs*

I did break their rules, so they have every right to do this, but can we say, poorly moderated site? Makes me grateful to have found such a well-run and properly moderated site as portkey.

The main thing is, caramel_bunny has been taken down. I'll take the heat.

Lol, Madam, you are truly

I like it.

Although you did use a ... unorthodox way of approaching it, it worked..
Hopefully we won't have to do this too often..

Max LoneWolf

Wow...I just finished reading the responses that this Jill Hartmon sent you guys. That's just rich. No offense to anyone who may speak like that, but does she (Jill) really think that she get take credit for such a wonderful pieces of work while saying, "You know NOTHING alright so mind yo business!!! How do you know that bitch didn't steal it from me?"

Mind yo business? What the hell? Sorry, but that just cracked me right up. She claims to have written such great pieces of work, yet her language is just...completely the opposite.

I would have emailed her also, but I think that she got enough hate mail.

On second thought, nope. She didn't receive just enough, I think she'll receive one more.

Alison

A comment posted on Lissane's LJ re: The Snitchfiction Plagiarist --

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Sample email to anti-t00b: Dear caramel_bunny, Please feel free to plagerise my fic (housed at schnoogle.) It is sure to win you worried looks, and possibly a one way trip to the assylum nearest you. I only ask that you stay true to the ship - draco/everyone. Sincerely, ari-o

*dies laughing*

I emailed her with a few choice words-she had a few of her own. She still insists its her work. Don't know what kind of a loser needs that kind of attention...but whatever...some people have serious issues

~714

I have one beef...If you guys are gonna talk about this Jill Hartmon chick, can you use a nickname or something? When people refer to her as just Jill, I get all freaked out, because I think you're talking about me!! (my actual name is Jill...) Thanks! Appreciate it!
~Batgirl

Sorry Batgirl.

How 'bout if we refer to her as "She Who Must Not Be Named"?

Seriously, though. I think the evil bunny is done. Taken down by the mods, skewered atop the pointy edge of Ms. Scribe's sarcasm (everybody go read "Hush" right now), and flamed by the trusty portkey-ers.

I think this is a good thread for us to post any other thefts we spot, and as Kristen Elizabeth says, watch each other's backs. I loff you guys.

-- babygrrl

I agree with babygrrl and Kristen Elizabeth.... the best thing we can do about plagarism, since we can't stop it, is to watch out for it.

When Ryoko was plagarized the first time, the girl took several paragraphs out of a few of Ryoko's stories and put them all together in one. It was so obviously not right, and Ryoko emailed her about it.

The girl took the story down then attacked Ryoko in her profile at ff.net. She claimed that everyone has similar ideas, which IS true, but not the same wording! Bah!

Besides, if she was so innocent, why did she take the story down? Hmmm??? We had a bunch of people email her too and say 'Hey, that's Ryoko's story' or something along those lines.

In any case, It's like we're all a big group that sticks together here..... we all watch out for one another and the works we've come to respect!


Heaven

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as Kristen Elizabeth says, watch each other's backs. I loff you guys.

*sniff* True, so true. I gotta say it's good to have a group like this that keeps an eye out for stuff like that. I know I thoroughly enjoyed the flame-fest earlier this week. I mean, like Heaven said, this problem ain't goin away so all we can do is confront it on a case by case basis. Yeah, I know, I'm just repeating what we already know, but I just wanted to say it one last time.