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NAPPA
hello smile.gif Basically , I would like this area to be a place where fanartists can talk and mingle. I've made several subforums, more coming --- as requested. But for now, this should be enough to get started.

> Tutorials
> Challenge place
> Contests
> FAQ
> Resources (Probably will be made into a subforum of FAQ)
> Recommendations
> Lost & Found

I will leave things mostly in your own capable hands.
Kate J
Media Idea?

gal_texter said this was the place so set off some media section ideas, sooo...

I was thinking that you could possibly start a section dedicated to music vids/audio clips and their production. I know there's already a music vid section, although it's down at the moment. But maybe expand on it? Have a real "HHr Media Center" (or a general ship center for all the ships Portkey supports). Right now, fanart, vids, threads to song recs...it's all scattered about. Like there are vid recommendations in the movie category, song recs in the general HHr thread... Maybe have an entire section dedicatd to just vids and audio?

You could have a contest, almost like how some icon journals hold contests. What they do is post a lyric and someone has to make the most original icon with that lyric on it. Well, you could do it for videos, too. Post a song and see who can come up with the best. The winners could get a little Portkey Plaque or something. It could be voted on by either the visitors, in a poll like you did with the fanfic awards, or it could be privately decided by the people who run the section. whatever you liked!

You could build up an archive of HHr videos (many different versions and songs) as well as involving the community. You could have this for all of the different ships you support here. It would be 1 main section with links to "HHr," "G/D," "R/L," and "J/L."

The section could be divided into subcategories, like song rec's and requests, locally hosted video links and remotely hosted, the contests and winners, audio uploads, a tutorial section where people could learn how to actually make the vids and what software they would need, maybe some free software download links, and even a section that just talks about music vids and slideshows, where people can do general discussion on this stuff.

I have no idea if that would be something you could do, or if it would take up too much bandwidth (or if you even have enough people at Portkey to help design and run something like this!), but hey- it's an idea!

The above was a general idea, but the main idea i had was you could have a whole section of MP3 sharing/audio uploads.

I thought of this because I have a Tag-Board on my site where people can recommend songs they'd like to see made as HHr videos. But i rarely make them because I've never heard of the song and can't download it anywhere. If people could upload the music themselves, just as they upload a fanfic, so we could easily download it...we could probably make vids for them easier. You could restrict the uploads to zipped files, to keep the bandwidth and storage space down.

maybe it would be safer to allow them to upload only to their own user panels/control panels, so that people could download it from the person's "bio" page only? (like where we can contact people and see their avatars and stories and such). They could have a "favorite songs!" list, and you could limit it to 5 songs, or something, to save bandwidth. I'm not sure how it would work. I wish I knew more about programming!

Anyway, they could then, in the rec section, link to their fav songd...

"Hey click here to listen to some of my favorite HHr songs! Could someone make a vid out of one of these?"

...and people would be directed to that persons Bio page where they could download the songs.

Hope I'm making some sort of sense. I tend to be very verbose when explaining things.

Anyway, that's my very complicated idea. Thanks for listening...

Kate J
gal-texter
EDIT Aug 5 2004: I meant that perhaps this forum can be a message board, to complement a section that hosts "Audio / Video / Arts" files. smile.gif

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It's always great to hear from you Kate, whether onboard or by email. biggrin.gif

Very good ideas you've got here, IMHO. Maybe we can even move the Movie Discussion Forum here. Remake this place into a sort of "Audio/Video Central".

I see Jessie's (Jessie' Flower) been promoting this section too. You're all welcome to post more ideas here. What content or sections do you want, suggested restructuring of the sections, etc. It would be wonderful for people to brainstorm first. We'll worry about mechanics or feasibility later. smile.gif

~Pen, doing her best to keep an eye on this thread and section

PS I'll leave a link to this topic in the Administration forum. Hopefully that will lead other PK-ers to this thread.


PPS For easy reference later, I'm listing some of the threads Kate mentioned:
H/H Songs
Potter Movies Artistic Stuff
erroom_potter
it's good idea Kate J
well, Now I host all my vid/flick at PK server at the subdomain loveflicks.portkey.org
How do you think if all of us at PK co-working to done this media project? at there
maybe in the future pk is the biggest source of H/H flick/media like the fanflix.com that the biggest R/H flicks source
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Jessie Flower
Kate J, your idea is really good.

My idea was as complex at Kate J's. BUt I was thinking for sections we could have a Wallpaper, Avatars, and the Audio/Video/Art things.

Maybe we could move the art threads over here, then I think more people may come over her. *shrugs*.

--Jessie
gal-texter
QUOTE (Jessie Flower @ Aug 5 2004, 11:05 PM)
Maybe we could move the art threads over here, then I think more people may come over her. *shrugs*.

Jessie, would appreciate it if you could post any arts thread that you think can be moved here. I won't promise to move them asap (mainly because they might attract more attention at their present locations), but they could be put here sometime.

Well, we're still at the brainstorming phase. Moving all right. I must warn you though that you might need to wait for weeks to months for anything concrete to happen, since we're all (meaning Mod Team and non-Mods) busy with Real Life and other PK matters.

But don't let that discourage you. As the saying goes, anything worth doing is worth doing well.
Jessie Flower
I searched all the threads (I'm not old enough to get into the Room of requirement so I don't know if there are any in there) I gathered all the threads that could be moved here:

R/Lu Artistic stuff
Fanart for Ron/Luna stuff
Potters movies artistic stuff
gal-texter
Jessie, thanks for the links. Can't move them just yet for many reasons, including computer troubles on my end.

Everyone, here's my understanding of the discussion so far. Feel free to correct me or comment on them.

--It would be great for Portkey to host audio, video, image, art files?
--We could use this particular message forum to complement said hosting section?

Initial question about hosting audio files particularly pop songs: any ideas how to dodge copyright issues?

But keep the ideas coming, people. biggrin.gif We'll need lots of help, obviously. Final decision will rest with the Admins, of course. I freely admit I don't fully understand the technical and other aspects.
Jessie Flower
QUOTE (gal-texter @ Aug 6 2004, 09:32 AM)

Initial question about hosting audio files particularly pop songs: any ideas how to dodge copyright issues?

No clue how that one is going to work out, because that is particularly big issue in the US right now.
Thieving Magpie
Hi,
since NAPPA asked me to code this new media section I need some help and Information about how it should look like. I mean the general structure of the new media section. I will try to explain this to you as simple as I can.
  • Basically, there is a piece of work that should be made public
    Like a picture, a drawing, a video, or an audio file and so on.
    This piece of work might have a title, a size, a format and things like that.
    I need a list of things that people might want to know about a certain piece of work.
  • This piece of work belongs to one or more artists
    I also need a list of things that people might want to know about this artists.
  • Then there have to be some categories to which our works belong
    Now, I also need to know how to categorize these works. We might make it like the rest of the site: H/Hr, D/G, J/L, R/LL, and General
  • We also need to know what kind of media we want to host.
    People already mentioned possible copyright violations for video and audio files, so our admins might have to decide if we can host certain types at all.
    So, we need a list of media we'd like to see.
The quality of the new media section depends a great deal on the amount of Information we can gather here. The more, the better biggrin.gif

I also heard people talking about media-recommendations. It would be relatively easy to clone the FanFiction Recommendation Engine and make a Media Recommendation Engine out of it.

Of course we're open to any suggestions you people might have.


inserted link to Fic Rec-Engine ~gal-texter
NAPPA
QUOTE
I was thinking that you could possibly start a section dedicated to music vids/audio clips and their production. I know there's already a music vid section, although it's down at the moment. But maybe expand on it? Have a real "HHr Media Center" (or a general ship center for all the ships Portkey supports). Right now, fanart, vids, threads to song recs...it's all scattered about. Like there are vid recommendations in the movie category, song recs in the general HHr thread... Maybe have an entire section dedicated to just vids and audio?


I have no objection to having a section that will promote that side of the fandom. We've not done anything on this for almost 4 months when the media section went down - and it's really getting on my nerves that the gallery doesn't work. I've had decided to scrap the last system we had - I was not going to integrate it into the forums like I did before. It was going to be a standalone install. But first Moglie, and then you both came to me in space of a day to ask about the system - and it's about time we got working on it. ^.^

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The section could be divided into subcategories, like song rec's and requests, locally hosted video links and remotely hosted, the contests and winners, audio uploads, a tutorial section where people could learn how to actually make the vids and what software they would need, maybe some free software download links, and even a section that just talks about music vids and slideshows, where people can do general discussion on this stuff.


That highlighted part is the sticky wicket. Only way I would allow uploading of music files if it's " legal - ie the person themselves made it ". Portkey does have spare bandwidth - and while I'm giving it to Erroom for hosting music videos - it's only because there is also links where people can actually buy the music. Direct music uploads to share isn't a good idea. It would attract people with no interest in the flicks to simply download the music.

BUT the rest of the idea is a very good one. I do believe Erroom has some tuturials about that. Perhaps we could look at improving that one.

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I have no idea if that would be something you could do, or if it would take up too much bandwidth (or if you even have enough people at Portkey to help design and run something like this!), but hey- it's an idea!
Bandwidth requirements wouldn't be a problem. Atleast we don't think it would be. Portkey is doing about 700GB/month on the main server. The one we host fanartists and some fandom sites has enough spare I believe. Atleast enough to start off with smile.gif I have committed about 100GB for loveflicks. I've has committed 150GB for the media section. So totally that is 250GB a month. That should be fine...


QUOTE
I thought of this because I have a Tag-Board on my site where people can recommend songs they'd like to see made as HHr videos. But i rarely make them because I've never heard of the song and can't download it anywhere. If people could upload the music themselves, just as they upload a fanfic, so we could easily download it...we could probably make vids for them easier. You could restrict the uploads to zipped files, to keep the bandwidth and storage space down.


That is something that can't be done. Storage and bandwidth aside -- I'm deathly afraid portkey will end up paying for it in legal trouble. Perhaps building of a song recommendations area - that is possible. So people could specify what music they do want, and give links into itunes, and other legal music providers.

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Jessie Flower

Maybe we could move the art threads over here, then I think more people may come over her. *shrugs*.

I was thinking that we would be doing that. Combining ALL the ships's own little art areas into ONE big one. Like we have with the Fanfiction recommendations. Also perhaps have NON shippy stuff ? Like the general area that we had on H/Hr. There is one particular feature that TheReader suggested that I've ALWAYS wanted to have. I will see if we can slot that in. * it's a secret *.

Wallpaper, iconage etc. It's not just fanarts. We would need to have a credit system for those things that are created with fanarts from other artists. IF they are on the site to their account. Or if not - then into their homepages. Deviant art pages. So we need to figure out the types of artwork, media we're going to store. What information we're going to keep about it. There will be a feedback system. Artists would have a special button too on the site - like their fanfiction section links.
Jessie Flower
QUOTE
I need a list of things that people might want to know about a certain piece of work.


I'll make an example for you of what I have in mind.
Title: Harry/Hermione POA Scenes
Artist: Jessie Flower (Username or real name, which ever they prefer)
Kind of Art: Wallpaper (Audio file, Icon, Avatar ect.)
Size 800x600 pixels (Pixels, probably kb/mb for audio files)
What they used: Jasc Paint Shop Pro 8
Link to other work: Jessie Flower at Photobucket

QUOTE
I also need a list of things that people might want to know about this artists.


Another example:

Artist(s): Jessie Flower ( if more then one artist just seperate with commas)
Portkey user?: Yes (if not no, and give a link to their homepage.)
How long they've been making this kind of art? 1 year
Link to work/homepage: Jessie Flower at Photobucket

QUOTE
I also need to know how to categorize these works. We might make it like the rest of the site: H/Hr, D/G, J/L, R/LL, and General


I would agree with you and say you should most likely categorize it like the rest of the site.

QUOTE
So, we need a list of media we'd like to see.


Audio/Video... if the admins allow it
Desktop Wallpapers
Icons/Avatars
Sketches

I can't really think of any more, someone else might have other ideas.

QUOTE
I also heard people talking about media-recommendations. It would be relatively easy to clone the FanFiction Recommendation Engine and make a Media Recommendation Engine out of it.


That would be a good idea.


gal-texter
Ok, just a quick FYI so people would know we haven't been neglecting this thread ...

Jessie - I plan to clean up some forum threads here. Move some threads from other sections to here, etc. But the earliest I can do that would be Aug 23.

Other plans --

having a Media Rec Engine sounds exciting! Instead of having "story genres", we could have "media type". I.e., wallpaper, avatar, video, song, ...

Jessie Flower
Okey doke August 23rd is fine.

--Jessie

Edited for:
QUOTE
But anyway, if you can post a suggested arrangement / format of this media forum, then I'd be more than happy to look at them.


Harry/Hermione
--Audio/Video files
--Desktop Wallpaper
--Icons/Avatars
--Sketches

Lily/James
--Audio/Video files
--Desktop Wallpaper
--Icons/Avatars
--Sketches

Ron/Luna
--Audio/Video files
--Desktop Wallpaper
--Icons/Avatars
--Sketches

Draco/Ginny
--Audio/Video files
--Desktop Wallpaper
--Icons/Avatars
--Sketches

Other
--Audio/Video files
--Desktop Wallpaper
--Icons/Avatars
--Sketches

That's basically the same format, but I typed it up anyhow, I'm still not sure if the admins are allowing Audio/Video files, but I added it anyhow.

--Jessie
gal-texter
Jessie - I realized the 23rd is a Monday. Start of the workweek. But anyway, if you can post a suggested arrangement / format of this media forum, then I'd be more than happy to look at them. So as not to unduly lengthen this thread, you can insert your suggestions in your previous post.

What'll likely happen is that I'll move some threads, read some to get a feel of them, and see how they can be grouped. At this point, I'm inclined to copy the Fic Recs forum's format.
bianka
Hey kate....... , you know you have a very briliant idea about make a video . Now it was my idea turn ... what about we make fanfiction video ... you know make our own ... and borrow JKR and WB pic and storyline . thumbup.gif twisted.gif whistling.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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