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I got the book several hours ago. I looked at the ending, and my heart died. I've skimmed through the book for Harry/Hermione interaction. What I noticed was how much JKK beefed up Ron in this book. He was always there. Worse, JKR stripped H/HR of many qualities we love most about their relationship and gave them to R/Hr. For instance, Ron and Hermione share an unspoken communication, Ron and Hemione work in partnership, R/Hr finish each other thoughts, Ron comes up with clever ideas that Hermione gushes over... and so on.
QUOTE(platonia @ Jul 21 2007, 12:34 PM) 
I got the book several hours ago. I looked at the ending, and my heart died. I've skimmed through the book for Harry/Hermione interaction. What I noticed was how much JKK beefed up Ron in this book. He was always there. Worse, JKR stripped H/HR of many qualities we love most about their relationship and gave them to R/Hr. For instance, Ron and Hermione share an unspoken communication, Ron and Hemione work in partnership, R/Hr finish each other thoughts, Ron comes up with clever ideas that Hermione gushes over... and so on.
Well.. I saw the trio most of the time, and yes, I saw R/Hr a lot, but I also saw H/Hr. Ron wasn't there for a short period of time and because of that, we got to see a small reunion of the Dream Team of OOTP! It's small, but it's there. They finish each other's sentences, know where each other is thinking towards, and understand each other's feelings without saying a word.
It's so small, like a glimpse, but it's there, and that made me happy. I didn't need OBHWF because I got to see H/Hr in its true form. It was great, one of my favorite moments of DH.
My favorite H/Hr scene was on the last page of chapter 16, "Godric's Hollow"
It's a tender moment for Harry and Hermione is there for him. They may profess platonic love, but it's nice that she was there. And... "kissing gate"? Is that a Britishism?
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As soon as he stood up he wanted to leave. He did not think he could stand another moment there. He put his arm around Hermione’s shoulders, and she put hers around his waist, and they turned in silence and walked away through the snow, past Dumbledore’s mother and sister, back toward the dark church and the out-of-sight kissing gate.
It's a tender moment for Harry and Hermione is there for him. They may profess platonic love, but it's nice that she was there. And... "kissing gate"? Is that a Britishism?
I haven't yet got the book, but I did read an extensive summary...it's sad and disappointing to be honest...and exactly as <b>platonia</b> mentioned, JK did rob our ship of nearly everything it stands for...yet, I can't help thinking that despite her best efforts, she didn't manage to completely erase the connection that is only theirs...
Gt88, JKR had to destroy H/Hr for R/H to work. Mr. Intel, the GH chapter is my favourite H/Hr moment too. I was going to post that but I was kicked off the computer. Harry views his parent's grave with Hermione. Ron is mercifully absent. It's a beautifully written, truly moving scene. Harry wishes mentally that he had brought something to put on his parent's grave. Hermione anticipates his wish and conjures up a wreath. The scene ends with the quote above. It's vintage H/Hr- so believable, so natural, so bloody romantic. If there is one thing I want to see in the DH movie, it is this. It shows up the H/G interaction for the shallow, badly written c*ap that is is. An unbiased audience watching Emma and Dan acting this scene out on screen can't think anything but that H/Hr are lovers, or potential lovers.
Another favourite moment is in the preceding chapter. Hermione decides to go with Harry to GH against Ron's objections. Ron accuses her of choosing Harry and leaves. Ron redeems himself later, but again we see Hermione staying at Harry's side. Ron is right. Hermiones does choose Harry. No one can take this from us.
Another favourite moment is in the preceding chapter. Hermione decides to go with Harry to GH against Ron's objections. Ron accuses her of choosing Harry and leaves. Ron redeems himself later, but again we see Hermione staying at Harry's side. Ron is right. Hermiones does choose Harry. No one can take this from us.
QUOTE(Mr.Intel @ Jul 20 2007, 06:44 PM)
My favorite H/Hr scene was on the last page of chapter 16, "Godric's Hollow"
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As soon as he stood up he wanted to leave. He did not think he could stand another moment there. He put his arm around Hermione’s shoulders, and she put hers around his waist, and they turned in silence and walked away through the snow, past Dumbledore’s mother and sister, back toward the dark church and the out-of-sight kissing gate.
It's a tender moment for Harry and Hermione is there for him. They may profess platonic love, but it's nice that she was there. And... "kissing gate"? Is that a Britishism?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissing_gate
Sorta.
What moments?
QUOTE(platonia @ Jul 21 2007, 03:11 AM)
Gt88, JKR had to destroy H/Hr for R/H to work. Mr. Intel, the GH chapter is my favourite H/Hr moment too. I was going to post that but I was kicked off the computer. Harry views his parent's grave with Hermione. Ron is mercifully absent. It's a beautifully written, truly moving scene. Harry wishes mentally that he had brought something to put on his parent's grave. Hermione anticipates his wish and conjures up a wreath. The scene ends with the quote above. It's vintage H/Hr- so believable, so natural, so bloody romantic. If there is one thing I want to see in the DH movie, it is this. It shows up the H/G interaction for the shallow, badly written c*ap that is is. An unbiased audience watching Emma and Dan acting this scene out on screen can't think anything but that H/Hr are lovers, or potential lovers.
Another favourite moment is in the preceding chapter. Hermione decides to go with Harry to GH against Ron's objections. Ron accuses her of choosing Harry and leaves. Ron redeems himself later, but again we see Hermione staying at Harry's side. Ron is right. Hermiones does choose Harry. No one can take this from us.
I knew it.
HH is present either way...you're right, Harmony is love that was apparently never meant to be in canon, and JK mercilessly hacked our ship to pieces and sent it to the bottom....the whole relationship aspect is just kind of forced...instead of going the right way, JK adopted the 'weasley' way out...commendable, as Herons might say, but not right by any means...Apparently H/G was just as bad...did Ginny even have a role in the plot of the book, besides the epilogue? It's like the cliche happened in every respect...
Hermione could have wished she chose Harry over Ron, but there may have been an expectation of her to choose Ron...Harry wasn't comfortable at the thought of RH, as HBP hinted, but I don't think we get further insight on his thoughts on the matter in DH...
QUOTE(gti88 @ Jul 21 2007, 07:46 AM)
QUOTE(platonia @ Jul 21 2007, 03:11 AM)
Gt88, JKR had to destroy H/Hr for R/H to work. Mr. Intel, the GH chapter is my favourite H/Hr moment too. I was going to post that but I was kicked off the computer. Harry views his parent's grave with Hermione. Ron is mercifully absent. It's a beautifully written, truly moving scene. Harry wishes mentally that he had brought something to put on his parent's grave. Hermione anticipates his wish and conjures up a wreath. The scene ends with the quote above. It's vintage H/Hr- so believable, so natural, so bloody romantic. If there is one thing I want to see in the DH movie, it is this. It shows up the H/G interaction for the shallow, badly written c*ap that is is. An unbiased audience watching Emma and Dan acting this scene out on screen can't think anything but that H/Hr are lovers, or potential lovers.
Another favourite moment is in the preceding chapter. Hermione decides to go with Harry to GH against Ron's objections. Ron accuses her of choosing Harry and leaves. Ron redeems himself later, but again we see Hermione staying at Harry's side. Ron is right. Hermiones does choose Harry. No one can take this from us.
I knew it.
HH is present either way...you're right, Harmony is love that was apparently never meant to be in canon, and JK mercilessly hacked our ship to pieces and sent it to the bottom....the whole relationship aspect is just kind of forced...instead of going the right way, JK adopted the 'weasley' way out...commendable, as Herons might say, but not right by any means...Apparently H/G was just as bad...did Ginny even have a role in the plot of the book, besides the epilogue? It's like the cliche happened in every respect...
Hermione could have wished she chose Harry over Ron, but there may have been an expectation of her to choose Ron...Harry wasn't comfortable at the thought of RH, as HBP hinted, but I don't think we get further insight on his thoughts on the matter in DH...
Its hard when your characters are so painfully bland and two-dimensional.
QUOTE(gti88 @ Jul 21 2007, 03:46 AM)
Harmony is love that was apparently never meant to be in canon, and JK mercilessly hacked our ship to pieces and sent it to the bottom....
Did she ever. Harry even tells Ron at one point " Hermione is like a sister to me". I could have coped with R/Hr is only JKR had kept H/Hr intact. Maybe JKR doesn't like the idea that many people think H/Hr possess a more beautiful, profound relationship than her intended couple.
You only have to compare the Yule Brawl and H/Hr's fight over Sirius to see this. We have Ron and Hermione screaming at each other from a distance. Ron insults Hermione's looks, her attractiveness, her intelligence, her loyalty. He insults her in every way possble. They end the fight with Hermione storming off. And this is a fight caused by Ron's jealousy. God help R/H when it comes to a life and death situation. When Harry and Hermione fight, they move close to each other, compromise, Harry acknowledges Hermione's loyalty and fidelity and ends up thanking her for her help. I refuse to believe that the comparisons are just an accident. Maybe JKR didn't intend H/Hr, but her subconscious knew that they were the better relationship.
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Apparently H/G was just as bad...did Ginny even have a role in the plot of the book, besides the epilogue?
I've only skimmed through DH. She doesn't seem to be in it much, and when she is, Harry mostly thinks of her in a physical way.
Ginny doesn't do much - she exists as a thought in Harry's mind mostly - like a promise of freedom from his dreary life.
The graveyard. /fin.
That seen was so bittersweet, because it was like this kick in the nuts of how GREAT it could have been. harry crying, Hermione silently offering support, holding his hand. Harry realizing he brought nothing and Hermione without speaking conjuring a wreath for Harry to lay on his parents grave then the two of them walking out arm in arm.
I was like THATS BEAUTIFUL JO, WHY COULDN'T THE REST BE LIKE THAT
That seen was so bittersweet, because it was like this kick in the nuts of how GREAT it could have been. harry crying, Hermione silently offering support, holding his hand. Harry realizing he brought nothing and Hermione without speaking conjuring a wreath for Harry to lay on his parents grave then the two of them walking out arm in arm.
I was like THATS BEAUTIFUL JO, WHY COULDN'T THE REST BE LIKE THAT
Wow...the mere thought of Ginny shaped Harry's love for her...unbelievable...
Kinem, HHr is beautiful...only, half the world is in denial, and sales would suffer, if JK chose the right path...
Kinem, HHr is beautiful...only, half the world is in denial, and sales would suffer, if JK chose the right path...
QUOTE(gti88 @ Jul 21 2007, 12:43 AM)
Wow...the mere thought of Ginny shaped Harry's love for her...unbelievable...
Kinem, HHr is beautiful...only, half the world is in denial, and sales would suffer, if JK chose the right path...
instead we get Harry's last thought before voldemort kills him is what ginny's lips on his felt like.
Version: US
Page: 362
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"She picked up the book and then walked back past him into the tent, but as she did so, she brushed the top of his head lightly with her hand. He closed his eyes at her touch, and hated himself for wishing that what she said was true: that Dumbledore had really cared."
Reason: If only JKR cared. Next to GH Graveyard scene, this one is my favorite. I'll be glad to see some H/Hr acted out on the big screen.
Page: 362
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"She picked up the book and then walked back past him into the tent, but as she did so, she brushed the top of his head lightly with her hand. He closed his eyes at her touch, and hated himself for wishing that what she said was true: that Dumbledore had really cared."
Reason: If only JKR cared. Next to GH Graveyard scene, this one is my favorite. I'll be glad to see some H/Hr acted out on the big screen.
Here's the text of the graveyard if anyone wants to read it
US Deathly Hallows
pg 328-329
But they were not living, thought Harry: They were gone. The empty words could not disguise the fact that his parents' mouldering remains lay beneath snow and stone, indifferent, unknowing. And tears came before he could stop them, boiling hot then instantly freezing on his face, and what was the point in wiping them off or pretending? He let them fall, his lips pressed hard together, looking down at the thick snow hiding from his eyes the place where the last of Lily and James lay, bones now, surely, or dust, not knowing or caring that their living son stood so near, his heart still beating, alive because of their sacrifice and close to wishing, at this moment that he was sleeping under the snow with them.
Hermione had taken his hand again and was gripping it tightly. He could not look at her, but returned the pressure, now taking deep, sharp gulps of night air, trying to steady himself, trying to regain control. He should have brought something to give them, and he had not thought of it, and every plant in the graveyard was leafless and frozen. But Hermione raised her wand, moved it in a circle through the air, and a wreath of Christmas roses blossomed before them. Harry caught it and laid it on his parents' grave.
As soon as he stood up he wanted to leave: He did not think he could stand another moment there. He put his arm around Hermione's shoulders, and she put hers around his waist, and they turned in silence and walked away through the snow....
US Deathly Hallows
pg 328-329
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But they were not living, thought Harry: They were gone. The empty words could not disguise the fact that his parents' mouldering remains lay beneath snow and stone, indifferent, unknowing. And tears came before he could stop them, boiling hot then instantly freezing on his face, and what was the point in wiping them off or pretending? He let them fall, his lips pressed hard together, looking down at the thick snow hiding from his eyes the place where the last of Lily and James lay, bones now, surely, or dust, not knowing or caring that their living son stood so near, his heart still beating, alive because of their sacrifice and close to wishing, at this moment that he was sleeping under the snow with them.
Hermione had taken his hand again and was gripping it tightly. He could not look at her, but returned the pressure, now taking deep, sharp gulps of night air, trying to steady himself, trying to regain control. He should have brought something to give them, and he had not thought of it, and every plant in the graveyard was leafless and frozen. But Hermione raised her wand, moved it in a circle through the air, and a wreath of Christmas roses blossomed before them. Harry caught it and laid it on his parents' grave.
As soon as he stood up he wanted to leave: He did not think he could stand another moment there. He put his arm around Hermione's shoulders, and she put hers around his waist, and they turned in silence and walked away through the snow....
QUOTE(Kinem @ Jul 21 2007, 05:04 AM)
Here's the text of the graveyard if anyone wants to read it
US Deathly Hallows
pg 328-329
QUOTE
But they were not living, thought Harry: They were gone. The empty words could not disguise the fact that his parents' mouldering remains lay beneath snow and stone, indifferent, unknowing. And tears came before he could stop them, boiling hot then instantly freezing on his face, and what was the point in wiping them off or pretending? He let them fall, his lips pressed hard together, looking down at the thick snow hiding from his eyes the place where the last of Lily and James lay, bones now, surely, or dust, not knowing or caring that their living son stood so near, his heart still beating, alive because of their sacrifice and close to wishing, at this moment that he was sleeping under the snow with them.
Hermione had taken his hand again and was gripping it tightly. He could not look at her, but returned the pressure, now taking deep, sharp gulps of night air, trying to steady himself, trying to regain control. He should have brought something to give them, and he had not thought of it, and every plant in the graveyard was leafless and frozen. But Hermione raised her wand, moved it in a circle through the air, and a wreath of Christmas roses blossomed before them. Harry caught it and laid it on his parents' grave.
As soon as he stood up he wanted to leave: He did not think he could stand another moment there. He put his arm around Hermione's shoulders, and she put hers around his waist, and they turned in silence and walked away through the snow....
Oh my god. I haven't read the book because of all the crap I've read about it. And I promised myself I wouldn't cry over H/Hr not happening, but reading this, I'm crying right now.
God, how can she write something so beautiful and deep between these two and then go for this shallow OBHWF crap? I mean look at this scene. This is everything we love about H/Hr and everything that H/G and R/Hr can never be. It's understanding, emotional support, LOVE. God, JK. You have no idea what you've done.
QUOTE(Nora @ Jul 21 2007, 01:13 AM)
QUOTE(Kinem @ Jul 21 2007, 05:04 AM)
Here's the text of the graveyard if anyone wants to read it
US Deathly Hallows
pg 328-329
QUOTE
But they were not living, thought Harry: They were gone. The empty words could not disguise the fact that his parents' mouldering remains lay beneath snow and stone, indifferent, unknowing. And tears came before he could stop them, boiling hot then instantly freezing on his face, and what was the point in wiping them off or pretending? He let them fall, his lips pressed hard together, looking down at the thick snow hiding from his eyes the place where the last of Lily and James lay, bones now, surely, or dust, not knowing or caring that their living son stood so near, his heart still beating, alive because of their sacrifice and close to wishing, at this moment that he was sleeping under the snow with them.
Hermione had taken his hand again and was gripping it tightly. He could not look at her, but returned the pressure, now taking deep, sharp gulps of night air, trying to steady himself, trying to regain control. He should have brought something to give them, and he had not thought of it, and every plant in the graveyard was leafless and frozen. But Hermione raised her wand, moved it in a circle through the air, and a wreath of Christmas roses blossomed before them. Harry caught it and laid it on his parents' grave.
As soon as he stood up he wanted to leave: He did not think he could stand another moment there. He put his arm around Hermione's shoulders, and she put hers around his waist, and they turned in silence and walked away through the snow....
Oh my god. I haven't read the book because of all the crap I've read about it. And I promised myself I wouldn't cry over H/Hr not happening, but reading this, I'm crying right now.
God, how can she write something so beautiful and deep between these two and then go for this shallow OBHWF crap? I mean look at this scene. This is everything we love about H/Hr and everything that H/G and R/Hr can never be. It's understanding, emotional support, LOVE. God, JK. You have no idea what you've done.
I know. That scene is fabulous, and in two paragraphs sums up everything I loved about Harmony. And its so bittersweet, because it got tossed aside into a flaming pit of contrived OBHWF. Thats why I asked myself "why couldnt Jo have written it ALL like that?"
QUOTE(Nora @ Jul 21 2007, 12:13 AM)
QUOTE(Kinem @ Jul 21 2007, 05:04 AM)
Here's the text of the graveyard if anyone wants to read it
US Deathly Hallows
pg 328-329
QUOTE
But they were not living, thought Harry: They were gone. The empty words could not disguise the fact that his parents' mouldering remains lay beneath snow and stone, indifferent, unknowing. And tears came before he could stop them, boiling hot then instantly freezing on his face, and what was the point in wiping them off or pretending? He let them fall, his lips pressed hard together, looking down at the thick snow hiding from his eyes the place where the last of Lily and James lay, bones now, surely, or dust, not knowing or caring that their living son stood so near, his heart still beating, alive because of their sacrifice and close to wishing, at this moment that he was sleeping under the snow with them.
Hermione had taken his hand again and was gripping it tightly. He could not look at her, but returned the pressure, now taking deep, sharp gulps of night air, trying to steady himself, trying to regain control. He should have brought something to give them, and he had not thought of it, and every plant in the graveyard was leafless and frozen. But Hermione raised her wand, moved it in a circle through the air, and a wreath of Christmas roses blossomed before them. Harry caught it and laid it on his parents' grave.
As soon as he stood up he wanted to leave: He did not think he could stand another moment there. He put his arm around Hermione's shoulders, and she put hers around his waist, and they turned in silence and walked away through the snow....
Oh my god. I haven't read the book because of all the crap I've read about it. And I promised myself I wouldn't cry over H/Hr not happening, but reading this, I'm crying right now.
God, how can she write something so beautiful and deep between these two and then go for this shallow OBHWF crap? I mean look at this scene. This is everything we love about H/Hr and everything that H/G and R/Hr can never be. It's understanding, emotional support, LOVE. God, JK. You have no idea what you've done.
That was actually beautiful. And then they ask us WHY we ship Harry and Hermione? Then Jo says "you are still out there?". Well it is because of scenes like that that there are H/Hr shippers.
QUOTE(Hikaru @ Jul 21 2007, 01:28 AM)
QUOTE(Nora @ Jul 21 2007, 12:13 AM)
QUOTE(Kinem @ Jul 21 2007, 05:04 AM)
Here's the text of the graveyard if anyone wants to read it
US Deathly Hallows
pg 328-329
QUOTE
But they were not living, thought Harry: They were gone. The empty words could not disguise the fact that his parents' mouldering remains lay beneath snow and stone, indifferent, unknowing. And tears came before he could stop them, boiling hot then instantly freezing on his face, and what was the point in wiping them off or pretending? He let them fall, his lips pressed hard together, looking down at the thick snow hiding from his eyes the place where the last of Lily and James lay, bones now, surely, or dust, not knowing or caring that their living son stood so near, his heart still beating, alive because of their sacrifice and close to wishing, at this moment that he was sleeping under the snow with them.
Hermione had taken his hand again and was gripping it tightly. He could not look at her, but returned the pressure, now taking deep, sharp gulps of night air, trying to steady himself, trying to regain control. He should have brought something to give them, and he had not thought of it, and every plant in the graveyard was leafless and frozen. But Hermione raised her wand, moved it in a circle through the air, and a wreath of Christmas roses blossomed before them. Harry caught it and laid it on his parents' grave.
As soon as he stood up he wanted to leave: He did not think he could stand another moment there. He put his arm around Hermione's shoulders, and she put hers around his waist, and they turned in silence and walked away through the snow....
Oh my god. I haven't read the book because of all the crap I've read about it. And I promised myself I wouldn't cry over H/Hr not happening, but reading this, I'm crying right now.
God, how can she write something so beautiful and deep between these two and then go for this shallow OBHWF crap? I mean look at this scene. This is everything we love about H/Hr and everything that H/G and R/Hr can never be. It's understanding, emotional support, LOVE. God, JK. You have no idea what you've done.
That was actually beautiful. And then they ask us WHY we ship Harry and Hermione? Then Jo says "you are still out there?". Well it is because of scenes like that that there are H/Hr shippers.
bttt for the best moment between two characters in the book. one liners be damned, read this and [moviedumbledore]YOU REMEMBER WHY YOU SHIPPED HARMONY. REMEMBER A SHIP THAT WAS HONEST, PURE AND GOOD HEARTED. SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT ME TO TELL YOU THIS, BUT HARMONY WAS MURDERED BY JK ROWLING. TO TELL YOU ANYTHING ELSE WOULD BE AN INSULT TO HARMONY'S MEMORY. SO YOU REMEMBER HARMONY, YOU REMEMBER![/moviedumbledore]
We were wrong we gave her too much credit...
We thought she was writing something really special but she wasn't she was just writing a kids book after all.
I'm surprised that I'm not more upset but I think that I was more prepared for this than I realised, because I'm not actually all that heartbroken. If that's what she thinks love is... then I'm glad she didn't write H/Hr, because now my estimation of what it could have been will never be tainted by her attempt to do it justice.
"I have often observed that resignation is never so perfect as when the blessing denied begins to lose somewhat of it's value in our estimation."
Mr Colins in Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen.
We thought she was writing something really special but she wasn't she was just writing a kids book after all.
I'm surprised that I'm not more upset but I think that I was more prepared for this than I realised, because I'm not actually all that heartbroken. If that's what she thinks love is... then I'm glad she didn't write H/Hr, because now my estimation of what it could have been will never be tainted by her attempt to do it justice.
"I have often observed that resignation is never so perfect as when the blessing denied begins to lose somewhat of it's value in our estimation."
Mr Colins in Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen.
QUOTE(ladylaughalot @ Jul 21 2007, 10:44 AM)
We were wrong we gave her too much credit...
We thought she was writing something really special but she wasn't she was just writing a kids book after all.
I'm surprised that I'm not more upset but I think that I was more prepared for this than I realised, because I'm not actually all that heartbroken. If that's what she thinks love is... then I'm glad she didn't write H/Hr, because now my estimation of what it could have been will never be tainted by her attempt to do it justice.
"I have often observed that resignation is never so perfect as when the blessing denied begins to lose somewhat of it's value in our estimation."
Mr Colins in Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen.
Thats one thing i thought even after book six - if her ability to write romance was really that dismal, then i'd rather leave Harmony's handling to the people who love and cherish the ideals and beliefs behind that couple.
OMG.
*sniff*
I sold my book that's why I didn't read this part! So beautiful...and then she just had to make her crappy canon and kill Harmony.
*sigh*
*sniff*
I sold my book that's why I didn't read this part! So beautiful...and then she just had to make her crappy canon and kill Harmony.
*sigh*
I was fine earlier. Even at the release party I was fine. As soon as I read this passage I bawled my eyes out. My boyfriend is looking at me like I'm crazy right now.
It stuff like this that make me proud to ship Harmony. We have tender, heartbreaking romantic scenes, but it just kills me that JK never thought to see what was in front of her face the entire time.
It stuff like this that make me proud to ship Harmony. We have tender, heartbreaking romantic scenes, but it just kills me that JK never thought to see what was in front of her face the entire time.
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But they were not living, thought Harry: They were gone. The empty words could not disguise the fact that his parents' mouldering remains lay beneath snow and stone, indifferent, unknowing. And tears came before he could stop them, boiling hot then instantly freezing on his face, and what was the point in wiping them off or pretending? He let them fall, his lips pressed hard together, looking down at the thick snow hiding from his eyes the place where the last of Lily and James lay, bones now, surely, or dust, not knowing or caring that their living son stood so near, his heart still beating, alive because of their sacrifice and close to wishing, at this moment that he was sleeping under the snow with them.
Hermione had taken his hand again and was gripping it tightly. He could not look at her, but returned the pressure, now taking deep, sharp gulps of night air, trying to steady himself, trying to regain control. He should have brought something to give them, and he had not thought of it, and every plant in the graveyard was leafless and frozen. But Hermione raised her wand, moved it in a circle through the air, and a wreath of Christmas roses blossomed before them. Harry caught it and laid it on his parents' grave.
As soon as he stood up he wanted to leave: He did not think he could stand another moment there. He put his arm around Hermione's shoulders, and she put hers around his waist, and they turned in silence and walked away through the snow....
Hermione had taken his hand again and was gripping it tightly. He could not look at her, but returned the pressure, now taking deep, sharp gulps of night air, trying to steady himself, trying to regain control. He should have brought something to give them, and he had not thought of it, and every plant in the graveyard was leafless and frozen. But Hermione raised her wand, moved it in a circle through the air, and a wreath of Christmas roses blossomed before them. Harry caught it and laid it on his parents' grave.
As soon as he stood up he wanted to leave: He did not think he could stand another moment there. He put his arm around Hermione's shoulders, and she put hers around his waist, and they turned in silence and walked away through the snow....
That just made me H/Hr all over again.
How can this woman be so thick? I mean really.
What she just wrote here is what Harry and Hermione are brilliant at. They are always on each others side. Hermione would do anything for Harry and us Harmonians know that. To me Book 7 was like thrown at us just to have the series end and get it over with. JKR, to me, really didn't think that much when she wrote this.
But I can't wait to see that moment when H/Hr go for that hot snogging on the big screen. GAWD. People will notice ... people will notice.
...hopefully.
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QUOTE(Marauders__x @ Jul 21 2007, 04:59 PM)
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But they were not living, thought Harry: They were gone. The empty words could not disguise the fact that his parents' mouldering remains lay beneath snow and stone, indifferent, unknowing. And tears came before he could stop them, boiling hot then instantly freezing on his face, and what was the point in wiping them off or pretending? He let them fall, his lips pressed hard together, looking down at the thick snow hiding from his eyes the place where the last of Lily and James lay, bones now, surely, or dust, not knowing or caring that their living son stood so near, his heart still beating, alive because of their sacrifice and close to wishing, at this moment that he was sleeping under the snow with them.
Hermione had taken his hand again and was gripping it tightly. He could not look at her, but returned the pressure, now taking deep, sharp gulps of night air, trying to steady himself, trying to regain control. He should have brought something to give them, and he had not thought of it, and every plant in the graveyard was leafless and frozen. But Hermione raised her wand, moved it in a circle through the air, and a wreath of Christmas roses blossomed before them. Harry caught it and laid it on his parents' grave.
As soon as he stood up he wanted to leave: He did not think he could stand another moment there. He put his arm around Hermione's shoulders, and she put hers around his waist, and they turned in silence and walked away through the snow....
Hermione had taken his hand again and was gripping it tightly. He could not look at her, but returned the pressure, now taking deep, sharp gulps of night air, trying to steady himself, trying to regain control. He should have brought something to give them, and he had not thought of it, and every plant in the graveyard was leafless and frozen. But Hermione raised her wand, moved it in a circle through the air, and a wreath of Christmas roses blossomed before them. Harry caught it and laid it on his parents' grave.
As soon as he stood up he wanted to leave: He did not think he could stand another moment there. He put his arm around Hermione's shoulders, and she put hers around his waist, and they turned in silence and walked away through the snow....
That just made me H/Hr all over again.
How can this woman be so thick? I mean really.
What she just wrote here is what Harry and Hermione are brilliant at. They are always on each others side. Hermione would do anything for Harry and us Harmonians know that. To me Book 7 was like thrown at us just to have the series end and get it over with. JKR, to me, really didn't think that much when she wrote this.
But I can't wait to see that moment when H/Hr go for that hot snogging on the big screen. GAWD. People will notice ... people will notice.
...hopefully.
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I would watch the movie if it contained a hr/h snog fest ...
I won't watch the movie. The H/Hr kiss will be on YouTube faster than you can say "JK sucks".
I wonder whether Emma likes the ending, she got what she wanted, after all. And how low did JKR have to sink for that?
I hope Emma Watson is happy...she got her ending. Let's see how she likes playing this Hermione as to her "girl power" one she's so fond of.
I wonder if Dan, Rupert and Emma are hoping there is an "out"clause in their contracts.
I wonder if Dan, Rupert and Emma are hoping there is an "out"clause in their contracts.
What i don't get is how on earth JK can actually write scenes as beautiful, moving and believable as that yet decide that OBHWF is the right way to go? I just don't get it. I feel so angry, but at the same time these books have given me so much joy and i have so much to thank them for that these conflicting emotions are so horrible to deal with. More than anything though, i think it was the epiologue that was the worst blow; how that actually got published i'll never understand.
I just hope the kiss will be IN the movie. I can just picture them cutting it out. 
QUOTE(Antiquity @ Jul 21 2007, 08:19 AM)
I wonder whether Emma likes the ending, she got what she wanted, after all.
If Emma doesn't like the ending, she won't admit it publicly. But let's see, she loved Hermione most in book 3 and 5. Now Hermione is reduced to a sobbing mess who's purpose in life is to do Won-Won's laundry. I'm sure Emma will love it.
QUOTE(BulletWords @ Jul 21 2007, 09:48 AM)
Ginny doesn't do much - she exists as a thought in Harry's mind mostly - like a promise of freedom from his dreary life.
maybe tht's stupid reason he likes her? he gets to live in "someone else's life"?
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QUOTE(gti88 @ Jul 21 2007, 12:43 AM) *
Wow...the mere thought of Ginny shaped Harry's love for her...unbelievable...
Kinem, HHr is beautiful...only, half the world is in denial, and sales would suffer, if JK chose the right path...wink.gif
instead we get Harry's last thought before voldemort kills him is what ginny's lips on his felt like.
Wow...the mere thought of Ginny shaped Harry's love for her...unbelievable...
Kinem, HHr is beautiful...only, half the world is in denial, and sales would suffer, if JK chose the right path...wink.gif
instead we get Harry's last thought before voldemort kills him is what ginny's lips on his felt like.
yeah.. he's always thinking her about in a physical way. Do they even talk about anything except quidditch?
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The graveyard. /fin.
That seen was so bittersweet, because it was like this kick in the nuts of how GREAT it could have been. harry crying, Hermione silently offering support, holding his hand. Harry realizing he brought nothing and Hermione without speaking conjuring a wreath for Harry to lay on his parents grave then the two of them walking out arm in arm.
I was like THATS BEAUTIFUL JO, WHY COULDN'T THE REST BE LIKE THAT
That seen was so bittersweet, because it was like this kick in the nuts of how GREAT it could have been. harry crying, Hermione silently offering support, holding his hand. Harry realizing he brought nothing and Hermione without speaking conjuring a wreath for Harry to lay on his parents grave then the two of them walking out arm in arm.
I was like THATS BEAUTIFUL JO, WHY COULDN'T THE REST BE LIKE THAT
why does she write such scenes if she's against them?
Man, I am seriously trying to like this book. I mean - I'm searching for stuff. Ugh.
Some things I noticed in DH:
(1) Ron isn't mentioned until page 45; however Harry has already thought of Hermione twice before the second chapter ends.
(2) Hermione hugs Harry when she first sees him at Privet Drive, and when he reaches the Burrow.
(3) I like the glance Harry gives Hermione about the Polyjuice Potion. It kinda came off as flirty to me.
That's all I'm getting so far - and I'm only on Chapter Six. Grr.
Some things I noticed in DH:
(1) Ron isn't mentioned until page 45; however Harry has already thought of Hermione twice before the second chapter ends.
(2) Hermione hugs Harry when she first sees him at Privet Drive, and when he reaches the Burrow.
(3) I like the glance Harry gives Hermione about the Polyjuice Potion. It kinda came off as flirty to me.
That's all I'm getting so far - and I'm only on Chapter Six. Grr.
Chapter 18, DH:
SAYS SO MUCH.
Chapter 15, DH
It continues on to Ron leaving them.
Ah, more.
Chapter 18, DH
Small ones now..
Chapter 16, DH
Chapter 17, DH
I'll search later, those chapters seem to have the most H/Hr.
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"Thanks for the tea. I'll finish the watch. You get back in the warm."
She hesitated, but recognized the dismissal. She picked up the book and then walked back past him into the tent, but as she did so, she brushed the top of his head lightly with her hand. He closed his eyes at her touch, and hated himself for wishing that what she said was true: that Dumbledore had really cared.
She hesitated, but recognized the dismissal. She picked up the book and then walked back past him into the tent, but as she did so, she brushed the top of his head lightly with her hand. He closed his eyes at her touch, and hated himself for wishing that what she said was true: that Dumbledore had really cared.
SAYS SO MUCH.
Chapter 15, DH
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"Harry!" Hermione cried.
"I know!" Harry shouted. Unable to contain himself, he punched the air; it was more that he had dared to hope for. He strode up and down the tent, feeling that he could have run a mile; he did not even feel hungry anymore. Hermione was squashing Phineas Nigellus's portrait back into the beaded bag; when she had fastened the clasp she threw the bag aside and raised a shining face to Harry.
"The sword can destroy Horcruxes! Goblin-made blades imbibe only that which strengthen them -- Harry, that sword's impregnated with basilisk venom!"
"And Dumbledore didn't give it to me because he still needed it, he wanted to use it on the locket -- "
"-- and he must have realized they wouldn't let you have it if he put it in his will -- "
" -- so he made a copy -- "
" -- and put a fake in the glass case -- "
" -- and he left the real one -- where?"
"I know!" Harry shouted. Unable to contain himself, he punched the air; it was more that he had dared to hope for. He strode up and down the tent, feeling that he could have run a mile; he did not even feel hungry anymore. Hermione was squashing Phineas Nigellus's portrait back into the beaded bag; when she had fastened the clasp she threw the bag aside and raised a shining face to Harry.
"The sword can destroy Horcruxes! Goblin-made blades imbibe only that which strengthen them -- Harry, that sword's impregnated with basilisk venom!"
"And Dumbledore didn't give it to me because he still needed it, he wanted to use it on the locket -- "
"-- and he must have realized they wouldn't let you have it if he put it in his will -- "
" -- so he made a copy -- "
" -- and put a fake in the glass case -- "
" -- and he left the real one -- where?"
It continues on to Ron leaving them.
Ah, more.
Chapter 18, DH
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"Harry -- "
But he shook his head. Some inner certainty had crashed down inside him; it was exactly as he had felt after Ron left. He had trusted Dumbledore, believed him the embodiment of goodness and wisdom. All was ashes: How much more could he lose? Ron, Dumbledore, the phoenix wand...
"Harry." She seemed to have heard his thoughts. "Listen to me. It -- it doesn't make very nice reading -- "
But he shook his head. Some inner certainty had crashed down inside him; it was exactly as he had felt after Ron left. He had trusted Dumbledore, believed him the embodiment of goodness and wisdom. All was ashes: How much more could he lose? Ron, Dumbledore, the phoenix wand...
"Harry." She seemed to have heard his thoughts. "Listen to me. It -- it doesn't make very nice reading -- "
Small ones now..
Chapter 16, DH
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Perhaps Hermione knew how he was feeling, because she reached for his hand and took the lead for the first time, pulling him forward.
Chapter 17, DH
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He could not think properly: Everything was a blur of panic and fear. Then he held out the wand to Hermione.
"Mend it. Please."
"Harry, I don't think, when it's broken like this -- "
"Please, Hermione, try!"
"Mend it. Please."
"Harry, I don't think, when it's broken like this -- "
"Please, Hermione, try!"
I'll search later, those chapters seem to have the most H/Hr.
Wow. My mum just bought me the book without asking me or anything. I love her for doing that, but I would have rather wasted the money on something else. Anyhow, I'm attempting to read it, and there are already some small moments in the first chapters.
And,
And,
More,
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He had never learned how to repair wounds and now he came to think of it - particularly in light of his immediate plans - this seemed a serious flaw in his magical education. Making a mental note to ask Hermione how it was done, he used a large wad of toilet paper to mop up as much of te tea as he could, before returning to his bedroom and slamming the door.
And,
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The idea of a teenage Dumbledore was simply odd, like trying to imagine a stupid Hermione or a friendly Blast-Ended Skrewt.
And,
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Wrenching open the back door, Harry hurtled into their midst. There was a general cry of greeting as Hermione flung her arms around him
More,
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Harry understood the rest of the plan immediately.
'No!' he said loudly, his voice ringing through the kitchen. 'No way!'
'I told them you'd take it like this,' said Hermione, with a hint of complacency.
'No!' he said loudly, his voice ringing through the kitchen. 'No way!'
'I told them you'd take it like this,' said Hermione, with a hint of complacency.
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[snip]'Even You-Know-Who can't split himself into seven.'
Harry caught Hermione's eye and looked away at once.
Harry caught Hermione's eye and looked away at once.
I'm just wondering....I'm not sure if someone said this already or not....but as evil as I am...the first pages I looked was the epilogue...(Ah..well..what can I do....that's the end!!!)
Is it just me, or Harry does not even look, save talk, with Hermione. At all. Not even a "how are you?".....That's a bit of a change from someone whom you entrusted your life with for 7 years, huh? But ah well.....
J.K. was smoking something.....I want that!!!!
Is it just me, or Harry does not even look, save talk, with Hermione. At all. Not even a "how are you?".....That's a bit of a change from someone whom you entrusted your life with for 7 years, huh? But ah well.....
J.K. was smoking something.....I want that!!!!
I must admit, as soon as I got the book I read the ending first which, of course, disappointed me. But when I read the rest of the book, I kept going back to the ending to see if I had read it right. I thought there were all the little subtle HHR touches that I love, accumilating in the fact that Hermione stayed with Harry instead of going with Ron and therefore being with Harry at the most difficult time for him - going to Godric's Hollow.
No-one else has mentioned this, but I think its quite amuzing - the only time Harry ever mentions the word 'love' in the whole series, THE WHOLE SERIES, is when he tells Ron he loves Hermione, but as a sister. I know that is the phrase that sinks our ship completely (but really, it was already sunk) - but he never, ever mentions love about anyone else. Even thinking about love, Ginny is never singled out and never says it to her.
I don't know. I know the phrase in total is anti HHr, but I just thought it was cool how he is only comfortable saying the 'love' word about Hermione.
No-one else has mentioned this, but I think its quite amuzing - the only time Harry ever mentions the word 'love' in the whole series, THE WHOLE SERIES, is when he tells Ron he loves Hermione, but as a sister. I know that is the phrase that sinks our ship completely (but really, it was already sunk) - but he never, ever mentions love about anyone else. Even thinking about love, Ginny is never singled out and never says it to her.
I don't know. I know the phrase in total is anti HHr, but I just thought it was cool how he is only comfortable saying the 'love' word about Hermione.
You forgot the best one
Love it!!
I must admit, as soon as I got the book I read the ending first which, of course, disappointed me. But when I read the rest of the book, I kept going back to the ending to see if I had read it right. I thought there were all the little subtle HHR touches that I love, accumilating in the fact that Hermione stayed with Harry instead of going with Ron and therefore being with Harry at the most difficult time for him - going to Godric's Hollow.
No-one else has mentioned this, but I think its quite amuzing - the only time Harry ever mentions the word 'love' in the whole series, THE WHOLE SERIES, is when he tells Ron he loves Hermione, but as a sister. I know that is the phrase that sinks our ship completely (but really, it was already sunk) - but he never, ever mentions love about anyone else. Even thinking about love, Ginny is never singled out and never says it to her.
I don't know. I know the phrase in total is anti HHr, but I just thought it was cool how he is only comfortable saying the 'love' word about Hermione.
and he alway thinks about Ginny in a physical way... on how he would love to hold her and all that crap
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Hermione "Ooh, you look much tastier than Crabbe and Goyle, Harry"
Love it!!
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I must admit, as soon as I got the book I read the ending first which, of course, disappointed me. But when I read the rest of the book, I kept going back to the ending to see if I had read it right. I thought there were all the little subtle HHR touches that I love, accumilating in the fact that Hermione stayed with Harry instead of going with Ron and therefore being with Harry at the most difficult time for him - going to Godric's Hollow.
No-one else has mentioned this, but I think its quite amuzing - the only time Harry ever mentions the word 'love' in the whole series, THE WHOLE SERIES, is when he tells Ron he loves Hermione, but as a sister. I know that is the phrase that sinks our ship completely (but really, it was already sunk) - but he never, ever mentions love about anyone else. Even thinking about love, Ginny is never singled out and never says it to her.
I don't know. I know the phrase in total is anti HHr, but I just thought it was cool how he is only comfortable saying the 'love' word about Hermione.
and he alway thinks about Ginny in a physical way... on how he would love to hold her and all that crap
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Hermione flung herself into Harry's arms. [snip] Over Hermione's shoulder Harry saw him raise his wand and point it at Lupin's chest.
Okay, have we ever seen Hermione fling her arms around Ron, aside where she "snogs" him? Has Hermione ever been so touchy with her "husband"?
Could you please post more quotes. Including the one where they are supposedly possessed by Voldie-poo.
Okay, I take that back. Ron is the new Harry, and Hermione "flies" at him.
QUOTE(abhi_shake @ Jul 21 2007, 10:53 AM)
and he alway thinks about Ginny in a physical way... on how he would love to hold her and all that crap
Does anyone else feel that JKR stopped trying to make people like Ginny in this book? She probably realised it was too late. I can't believe this H/G is the romance that she wrote for her "hero", a character that I presume she likes. He deserves more. His sidesicks' relationship has had more buildup, for Christsakes- gag-inducing though it is!!!! It's poor, poor writing. And this is the woman who likes Jane Austen and appreciates the subtleties of "Emma"!!!!!
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"Harry?"
[snip]
It was several moments later before he realised Ron and Hermione were at his side.
'Harry, come back in the house,' Hermione whispered. 'You aren't still thinking of leaving?'
[snip]
'Are you all right?' Hermione asked, close enough now to look into Harry's face. 'You look awful!'
'Well,' said Harry shakily, 'I probably look better than Ollivander ...'
When he had finished telling them what he had seen, Ron looked appalled, but Hermione downright terrified.
'But it was supposed to have stopped! Your scar - it wasn't supposed to do this anymore! You mustn't let that connection open up again - Dumbledore wanted you to close your mind!'
When he did not reply, she gripped his arm.
'Harry, he's taking over the Ministry and the newspapers and half the wizarding world! Don't let him inside your head too!'
[snip]
It was several moments later before he realised Ron and Hermione were at his side.
'Harry, come back in the house,' Hermione whispered. 'You aren't still thinking of leaving?'
[snip]
'Are you all right?' Hermione asked, close enough now to look into Harry's face. 'You look awful!'
'Well,' said Harry shakily, 'I probably look better than Ollivander ...'
When he had finished telling them what he had seen, Ron looked appalled, but Hermione downright terrified.
'But it was supposed to have stopped! Your scar - it wasn't supposed to do this anymore! You mustn't let that connection open up again - Dumbledore wanted you to close your mind!'
When he did not reply, she gripped his arm.
'Harry, he's taking over the Ministry and the newspapers and half the wizarding world! Don't let him inside your head too!'
please please someone tell me how that little snog scene went... i'm dying of disappointment right now... seems the book was the final blow for 2007's summer of harmonian discontent...
maybe it's all just a dream... i'm still waiting for someone, anyone to say 'hey! that's not the real book! it's this one!' and everyone will hand in their current copies (or keep them, for future reference, which i doubt anyone will do) which will be replaced with the real deathly hallows, where harry doesn't resemble a punk emo kid, hermione isn't a wreck, and ginny doesn't exist...
maybe it's all just a dream... i'm still waiting for someone, anyone to say 'hey! that's not the real book! it's this one!' and everyone will hand in their current copies (or keep them, for future reference, which i doubt anyone will do) which will be replaced with the real deathly hallows, where harry doesn't resemble a punk emo kid, hermione isn't a wreck, and ginny doesn't exist...
After getting way to antsy and wanting to find out what happens in the end, I read the epilogue, and I BELIEVE that it is a joke! I mean what the heck was JK thinking?! I swear it was like a REALLY bad fanfic! And the names for their kids?! LIKE WOW! Could she have been a little more creative. And what kind of life would Hermione be reduced to? I think I'll stick with some GOOD fanfiction for the future.
And I wouldn't have minded Ron/Hermione to much, but Ginny/Harry....I CAN'T STAND IT! No build up just BAD writing. All I can say is I hope your happy JK cause that is the worst relationship that I've ever seen.
I can't say I wasn't expecting this from JK, the 6th book was a disaster as is, I didn't expect to much from this one. I have yet to finish it though, so hopefully I'll find some little moments between or favorite couple.
AND SISTER?!! That is a LOAD if I've ever heard one before.
And I wouldn't have minded Ron/Hermione to much, but Ginny/Harry....I CAN'T STAND IT! No build up just BAD writing. All I can say is I hope your happy JK cause that is the worst relationship that I've ever seen.
I can't say I wasn't expecting this from JK, the 6th book was a disaster as is, I didn't expect to much from this one. I have yet to finish it though, so hopefully I'll find some little moments between or favorite couple.
AND SISTER?!! That is a LOAD if I've ever heard one before.
To be honest, I was not disappointed when DH didnt end up in H/Hr. I knew it the moment I saw the OOTP movie, when Ron gets protective on Hermione during the Grawp scene. I figured the director knew how the book would ultimately end, and decided to focus on R/Hr instead.
But what really makes me happy in this book is that despite who gets whom, the special bond that Harry and Hermione share is still unique to them and will probably always be. I thought that even if they werent "in love" with one another, they are truly "soul-mates" in each and every complete sense of the word.
That somehow makes it more pure, more special, all the more romantic for me!
In any case, this is something R/Hr or H/G will never have. I there fore still believe, till the end, that it's H/Hr all the way
PS: Just saw some of the moments you guys posted up!! I'm in love with H/Hr all over again. I'll just pretend the epilogue didnt happen
And yes, what was the point of writing H/Hr graveyard scene if she didnt want them to get together? Or was it just something to placate the H/Hr fans?!
But what really makes me happy in this book is that despite who gets whom, the special bond that Harry and Hermione share is still unique to them and will probably always be. I thought that even if they werent "in love" with one another, they are truly "soul-mates" in each and every complete sense of the word.
That somehow makes it more pure, more special, all the more romantic for me!
In any case, this is something R/Hr or H/G will never have. I there fore still believe, till the end, that it's H/Hr all the way
PS: Just saw some of the moments you guys posted up!! I'm in love with H/Hr all over again. I'll just pretend the epilogue didnt happen
And yes, what was the point of writing H/Hr graveyard scene if she didnt want them to get together? Or was it just something to placate the H/Hr fans?!
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Hermione turned around and beamed at Harry; her eyes, too, were full of tears.
'... then I declare you bonded for life.'
'... then I declare you bonded for life.'
yeah, a sister you been screwing behind your best friend's back for 19 years! wahahahahahah! it's been a deceitful, dysfunctional, lustful children;s series anyway, so why not throw adulterous into the mix?
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