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-gal-texter, 2008


I have read brilliant essays, theories and thoughts about HP's comparisons with one of the world's most world-acclaimed works of literature (Emma, Pride and Prejudice, etc.). The great similarities simply amazes me (more particularly shipwise) and makes me believe even more.

From a long time already I have wanted to post something similar to those aforementioned essays (though I don't think mine would be as brilliant). But I want to compare HP with something I believe I know by heart...

And yes, that's anime!

The Start

Without further ado, I want to present to you the first comparison...

Ryoma and Sakuno from the Prince of Tennis
The Story
Prince of Tennis (POT) is a story about a 12-year old tennis genius. The series focuses on Ryoma's great tennis skills and his route to success.

The Comparison
The Ryoma/Sakuno pairing is quite similar to that of H/G pairing:

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*The first meeting involves a train/train station - Ryoma and Sakuno were in the same train - seated directly across one another.
*Hero saves damsel in distress thingy - A highschool student was boasting about something about tennis grip. He was swinging his tennis racket quite carelessly inside the train, so careless that poor Sakuno's face was inches away from harm's way. Ryoma, in a lazy voice, told the highschooler that the highschooler's grip was wrong. This angered the boastful highschooler - he stopped swinging his tennis racket. The train reached its stop at that moment before any mishap took place.
*The fangirl thingy - After the rescue in the train and, later in that episode, witnessing Ryoma's superb tennis skills, Sakuno was instantly attracted to the stoic Ryoma.
*Shy, stammering girl - Sakuno tends to blush furiously and has the tendency to stammer whenever Ryoma is around.
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Weird as it may be, I like the Ryoma/Sakuno pairing while I really never stopped and gave H/G a single thought. You know why? Because similar as the two pairings be at first glance, when you look at it, deeper... you'll see the development that the H/G pairing lacked.

*Through Ryoma's own actions, you can see that he regarded

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Sakuno as a friend. There was an episode in POT where Ryoma has gotten his school's tennis jersey. Sakuno asked him if he could put it on and so she could see it, he answered that he (Ryoma) would wear it the next day, so she could see it tomorrow. This made Sakuno real embarrassed and disappointed all the same. Ryoma must've seen it because it the end, he put the jersey on and together they walked (with a sunset background ).
*Ryoma's superb tennis skills had driven a desire for Sakuno to be better at tennis herself. Though clumsy by nature and lacking the tennis skills required, she spent hours practicing tennis in one secluded (I presume) part of the school. Ryoma appeared to always catch her practicing alone and subtly, he will give her a tip or two on how to improve her tennis.
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*Sakuno was always there to cheer on Ryoma's tennis matches. Everytime that Ryoma wenr missing before a tennis match (either because he was practicing, drinking his favorite soda or merely sleeping under a tree), it was almost always Sakuno who's always found him.
*And a whole lot more...

Though far from being romantic, Ryoma and Sakuno has the foundation to be friends at twelve. Who knows where this friendship can lead to? One could only presume.

Ranma and Akane from Ranma 1/2
The Story
Ranma 1/2 is the story of a boy who turns into a girl when doused with cold water and back to a boy when doused with hot water. After the fated training quest to China, and falling to the curse spring Jusenkyou (where Ranma had gotten his curse), he and his father went back to Japan only to find out the biggest shock of his life --> he was

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engaged to marry his father's bestfriend's youngest daughter, Tendou Akane.
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Comparison
The Akane/Ranma pairing just defined the famous love-hate relationship. Obviously, it is in one way similar to that of R/Hr's.
*The endless bickering, anyone?
*Jealousy on the other's other fiancees (on Ranma's part) and suitors (on Akane's part).

But I love the Ranma/Akane pairing as well because the similarities end with...


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*As the series went on, Ranma and Akane learned to accept and respect one another. Akane, in the end, learned to accept Ranma's desire to be a stronger martial artist. She knew how much it mattered for Ranma to win a fight that she always, one way or another, managed to help him become stronger. There was an episode in the anime where Ranma was turned as weak as a baby. The cure to this 'other curse' was written in an old parchment. To cut the long story short, the said parchment was thrown in the middle of a very 'lively' fight... without stopping to think of the consequences that it would cost her, Akane jumped right in the middle of the fight just to get the said parchment (the cure to bring back Ranma's strength). In the end, Ranma saved her, not stopping to think about the possibilities that the said parchment would get torn into pieces or be destroyed in the middle of the fight... but he SAVED her.
*Ranma doesn't want Akane to see him at his weakest - earlier in the same episode where Ranma was turned into a weakling, he went to the mountains to train (without telling any word or as much as a 'goodbye' to the very pissed off Akane). In the end, Akane found him training in the mountain and tried to help him. But Ranma told her that she's not supposed to follow in the first place which sent him flying by a hard-earned punch/mallet from Akane.
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After the whole chaos, Ranma explained to Akane that he doesn't want Akane to follow in the mountains because he doesn't want her to see him at his weakest. (Kinda similar? Someone doesn't want a certain someone to see a 'T' on his OWLs? *sorry can't resist).
*A whole lot more...(Limited space, sorry )

I guess you can understand why I love the Ranma/Akane relationship given the few instances above?

And finally Kenshin and Kaoru from Rurouni Kenshin
The Story
Rurouni Kenshin is a story about a wandering swordsman with a dark past. To atone for his sins (he was a famed and feared assassin back in the war-days), he started on his non-killing vow.

The Comparison
Kenshin and Kaoru pairing, I believe is somewhat similar to the H/G and the H/Hr pairing. Let's start of with the H/G similarities first:
*The hero saved the damsel in distress - Himura Kenshin was wandering, one night in a town in Tokyo when somebody from behind

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called him by his alias 'Hitokiri Battousai' (Battousai, the assassin). Taken by surprise, he turned and was even more surprised to see a young girl brandishing a wooden sword in air. After Kenshin's rather clumsy attempt to avoid her attack, the girl (Kaoru) became convinced that she had gotten the wrong guy. Later in that episode, Kenshin found out that there was a man killing people around the place using his alias (Battousai) and was killing using Kaoru's family technique. To cut the long story short, Kenshin saved her in the end from potential danger.
*Kenshin's surrogate family - later in the series, Kenshin and Kaoru met the other people (Sano, Yahiko, Megumi) and together they formed one surrogte family -- where Kenshin found peace and contentment.
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As to similarity with H/Hr:
*As the series went on, Kaoru learned to accept Kenshin's past and his desire to atone for his guilt and the sins of his past. In the OAV series, 'Reflection' (I highly recommend for you to watch), we can see how Kaoru's feelings for Kenshin evolved from a simple crush to one unconditional love -

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so unconditional that she was willing to sacrifice her own life (health) just to share Kenshin's pain (I really cried when I watched 'Reflection').
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(It can mirror H/Hr's 'just mere friend/acquitances' to a strong friendship that they had grown to have).
*The mutual understanding that they shared - even without words, Kaoru knew and learned to understand Kenshin's desire to atone for his sins.

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There was a lot of instances when Kenshin was to fight with a bog liability and though Kaoru was very worried sick about him, she understood his desire to help others -- not because he wanted to be a hero, but because he just had to do something to atone for his sins. Kaoru knew this and she showed her support by always being there and sometimes fighting alongside with him.
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And before I end this long essay, I want this certain scene to be put in attention...
*There was a scene in Rurouni Kenshin where Kenshin had to fight

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a certain assassin. To fight him, Kenshin had to leave Tokyo but before he go, he said a certain goodbye to Kaoru... ONLY Kaoru.
The goodbye scene was very... emotional... (I wish someone had actually watched this scene, a tear-jerker really). Watching the scene, one could see how Kenshin never really wanted to go but he HAD to - he HAD to, to save Japan. He told Kaoru of his good times he shared with her and their friends and how he had never felt so happy in his entire life (my interpretation, feel free to counter). In the end, he pulled Kaoru into a strong hug and thanked her for believing in him and for accepting him for who he was. When he turned and left (walking unsteadily in my humble opinion), Kaoru fell to her knees crying all her hearts out.
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Does the goodbye scene sounds familiar? But was there anything wrong in the characters' reactions? I know there is, if you catch my drift...

Just my thougths...

Here I believe that you've struck upon the very thing that is the couse of the shipping wars: The fact that there is a basis in other media, books, and such for an H/Hr pairing, and H/G pairing, and a R/Hr pairing.

The difference, as you've stated, is that the pairings, when focused on, show a great deal of growth to them and thus give a sense of satisfaction when the romance blossoms. In Harry Potter, however, we are given very special conditions to events: Firstly and most importantly, the "camera" never leaves Harry, which preordains that any relationship of importance must occur within his sight, and preferably include him; secondly, any relationship that includes Harry would need to show build-up all along the series.

To date, only Hermione fulfills those two conditions; Ginny is there as an interested party, but there is very little growth in the overall relationship between Harry and Ginny until HBP, wherein we have crammed a bunch of "quality time" that has manifested out of nowhere. As far as I'm concerned, any time a character performs a 180 in fiction, there's something else going on that needs to be discovered. Anime shows especially make use of character behavior masking ulterior motives.

I'm a big Ranma 1/2 fan and an even bigger Rurouni Kenshin fan. I even have a website for the latter and wrote a bunch of fanfiction for it...

Anyway, I have to say that as far as Ranma and Akane go, I can only see R+Hr in it. There was absolutely nothing respectful about Ranma and Akane's relationship.

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Ranma constantly calls Akane "an uncute, macho tomboy" and Akane calls Ranma (and means it) an "idiotic pervert." It mirrors Ron and Hermione too much, and even in Ranma and Akane's most tender moments, I don't think I could ever get an H+Hr feel from them. The only times Ranma and Akane ever remotely show affection for one another without Akane hitting him with her mallet is when they--well, have no choice. Ranma and Akane work as a couple because the anime's a comedy. Hell, it's one of the best comedy-anime out there. It's my FAVORITE, and it's totally ridiculous--and the non-wedding--BEST ONE EVER! When the most normal person in the group is an hard-a*sed extortionist, you know it's good.
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I'd say Rurouni Kenshin is a relationship more based on respect and love. It's too bad the anime didn't show much of it, and that we only get to see their "happily ever after" in manga (only to be promptly shattered by the last OVA), but I suppose I can see the devotion of Harry and Hermione in Kenshin and Kaoru.

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Kaoru's such a nag because she cares too much and Kenshin just wants to live a normal life after his days as Battousai. A lot of history shaped Kenshin's personality, though, and a lot of Kaoru's character relies on her innocence. It's still a bit of stretch to compare K+K with H+Hr. Harry and Hermione grew up together, learning things at the same time, both in school and in real life. Kenshin and Kaoru had to be worlds apart to be together, and Kenshin had to love someone else first to learn to love the likes of Kaoru.

You understand that Kenshin would never have loved Kaoru as he was, back then. As Battousai, he was fashioned in the fires for the likes of Tomoe. Battousai would have looked right through Kaoru, never noticing she was there. Kaoru belongs to a time of peace.
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If I'm going to pick an anime that seems to match the H+Hr dynamic, I'd pick the anime Gatekeepers. Not Gatekeepers 21, but the first one which is simply Gatekeepers. The anime's main character is a boy named Ukiya Shun who discovers one day that

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he has the power to open gates where he could access special skills that would enable him to defend humans from invading aliens.
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The skill, while unusual, is not exclusive to him. He discovers that there is a group of kids who has access to this same power. At this point, it's parallel to Harry finding out he is a wizard.

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So Shun finds out he is a part of an elite group, and Ruriko Ikusawa, a very intelligent, organized, logical (sounding familiar?) gal is there to help him learn the ropes. Shun is impulsive and powerful (familiar still?), and his main weakness is his inability to think before he leaps. Lol. Ruriko and Shun, while it wasn't love at first sight, do get along. Ruriko is a patient but firm teacher while Shun seems to appreciate her help, even if sometimes he feels frustrated because she restrains his impulses. They would fight every once in a while, but it hardly forms part of the dynamic of their relationship.
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They have friends, of course, but there is definitely a bond between Shun and Ruriko.

It had been shown that Shun cares for Ruriko, and that Ruriko feels the same for him. But as is usual in anime, this doesn't necessarily get spoken of during the duration of the series. Lol.

I never seen Ranma/Akane as being anything like r/hr or H/Hr.
Ranma and Akane relationship does get alittle better as time goes by, but them arguing is coming from them not understanding eachother or really knowing eachother. Which is both against R/hr and H/Hr.

I don't see the H/Hr or H/G in Kenshin/Kaoru, in my opinon Kenshin is to much of a push over, and Harry would never let himself be pushed over.

I never seen the other anime.

when it comes to anime id have to say from naruto naruto and hinata... reason being no one tries to help him out except for her until later in the series..Also naruto is like harry he has his destiny and grew up with hatred until a certain point in his life...during the

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chunin exams he finds out how hinata always watched him from afar and after his fight when she offered to help him with the medicine she made. after her fight with neji naruto thinks over everything he has seen of her and swears on her blood that he would knock some sense into her cousin..before his fight with neji they had a heart to heart talk somewhat and that is the first time he really let down his walls around anyone.. later in the series hinata is the first to try and find a way to help him find his friend sasuke.
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even though they are not together yet their development with eachother reminds me the most of h/hr.

Takeru and Hikari from Dejimon! They remind me quite a lot of H/Hr.

What? I quite liked that show.

~Salamon2

hehe forgot about that one..but i agree

Nyllemnev, for shame! It is truly shocking and reprehensible that you didn't mention Renton and Eureka, probably the greatest anime romance ever written. Though Harry is more like Eureka, character-wise, the gradual ramping-up, self-discovery and final revelation are exactly the direction in which the H/Hr relationship has gone and should continue to go in Book 7.

Watch Eureka 7, all 50 episodes. Anyone who's enough of a romantic to be on this board will see what I mean -- and have the chance to watch an extremely well-presented and moving series in the process.

This isn't like Fushigi Yuugi, is it?

Beats me. I know nothing whatever of Fushigi Yuugi.

So true. Takari was one of my first ships...

Hope and Light, great combination.


I think there are few anime ships that can be related to any HP ship (especially H/Hr) because of the nature of romance in anime. It's generally a longer path, and characters evolve too slowly.

Oh yes Takari was my largest obsession in the Dejimon world. Hope and Light rock!

Still bummed that the cartoonists left us hanging as to whether or not they got together or not. We can tell they got married, just not who to. Unless single parenting became a large new trend in 2025.

~Salamon2

It's okay, you're not alone. I loved Takari as well.


They left a lot hanging on the last episode with couples. We all knew Matt and Sora married ( <-- still mad about that) and Ken and Yolei married, but the others we didn't really know about.

Miss Mady

I was so disappointed that it didn't end as Taichi/Sora.

Jyou and Mimi also didn't get together...


I always thought Hikari's kid looked a bit like that American boy they once found (Michael, was it?).

That episode was a huge disappointment.

::sigh:: That was so sad, because... yeah, they weren't exactly like H/Hr, but they did posess some qualities with H/Hr.

Best friends.
One is heroic.
One is smart.

GAH! The Matt/Sora relationship pretty much came out of nowhere.

Miss Mady

You can really see the resenblence in takari for H/Hr. now I point torwards episodes 7 and 13 of season two. those episodes showed us a lot H/Hr similarities.

you have all given geat examples but there are some missed here. (i'm a freak when it comes to anime)

I think we all know Sakura and Syaoran right?(Cardcaptor Sakura;Tsubasa Chronicle)
Well IMO they resemble in CCS a lot of H/Hr in their second year.

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Syaoran has a few dormant feelings there and is friends with Sakura while Sakura has a very big crush on Yukito(don't know english names) which I somewhat compare to Hermione's fangirling over lockhart.
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Towards later episodes they sow that they would go through hell for eachother while yet they both have platonic feelings with dormant feelings.


Now to Digimon again(i really jump from one to another)

We all know Sora married
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Matt
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and some of us are upset about that me included. I'm going to talk about Taiora(Tai/Sora)

What makes this pairing so great that it makes me think about H/Hr?
It is how they interact. Sora keeps Tai grounded when needed and makes him think twice instead of rushing in without a plan. Also Tai is someone who can match Sora's temper and one of those who really listens to what she has to say. IMO they are H/Hr before HP came out

I've been doing some research, apparently the creator later admitted that he had originally wanted four pairings in the last episode of Dejimon 02:

Takari
Sorato (apparently it was the dubbers who added all the Taiora moments)
Kenyako (always liked this)
Koumi (hey I read Kayle's fanfic on this and I've liked this pairing ever since)

However the fandom was, according to him, not unified enough in what they wanted, so he gave two of the four pairings and left the others ambigious on purpose.

The result was most people hated the episode because it wasn't clear and conclusive.

Which is why JKR shouldn't leave the pairings ambiguous, she'll end up being hated more than if she put an end to it once and for all.

So JKR, if you are reading this forum (which I doubt, but you never know), DON'T LEAVE THE PAIRINGS AMBIGUOUS!

~Salamon2

My gosh! I never thought anyone would mention this pairing CCS is my favourite anime of all time LOL. Personally, I think S/S contains elements of both H/Hr and R/Hr. The former in that both S/S and H/Hr fight along side one another and are a great team in fighting the obstacles in their way. The latter in that Syaoran has a chip on his shoulder and treated Sakura


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very badly for approximately 2/3 of the whole series.

Notice however, that the dynamics in the S/S relationship changed in the last third of the series, and the major turning point was when Sakura fell into the neverending hole and Syaoran, unable to catch her, shouted out her name in desperation. When Sakura flew back up using the Fly card, Syaoran did one thing that shocked both of them (and me as well)...
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he HUGGED her. LOL someone in HP did that too when Harry most likely would not survive in PS...

S/S started out with R/Hr dynamics, but it later became H/Hr. I guess this just means that when the book started, both shippings had potential. However, it's already Book 6 and I still haven't seen any changes in the relationship between Ron and Hermione, so I don't think R/Hr will happen in Book 7.

Unless it's a heavy romance with creators the likes of Yuu Watase (creator Fushigi Yuugi and Ayashi no Ceres) and Kaori Yuki (creator of Blood Hound, Boys Next Door, and her most popular work Angel Sanctuary), pairings are almost always left ambiguous in anime. Even when two characters supposedly have a thing for one another (e.g. In Recca no Honou, Recca had a thing for Yanagi, but it was always just about "protecting" her, not "loving" her. In Ah! Megami-sama, Keiichi Morisato was obviously in love with Belldandy and Belldandy loved him in return, yet... they never really say it. They just smile at each other, hug, and stuff... no kissing, no admissions, no nothing) we never see them kiss or say "I love you." It's very frustrating, but anime likes to toy with the feelings of shippers.

Many instances, the manga shows that two characters ended up together definitively, but usually, the anime series stops before it animates the "romance" sequence, like in that lovely period-anime Emma (not related to Jane Austen's work at all, I swear). I'm not sure why they do this, but it could get pretty frustrating, because the romance they do animate usually goes on overkill, with nothing but each other's name as dialogue for the two characters who are in love with one another.

Anime really is its own interesting genre. Japanese culture (in my opinion as a Western hemisphere outsider) is very introverted, with real relationships held close and private, while the public persona is extroverted and happy regardless of the circumstances. In short, the Japanese have a "game face" they like to show, and I believe that it includes their percieved relationships. To the Japanese, an understated relationship like the Morisato-Belldandy one is by far a stronger relationship than any public one, and there is no need to expose all of its details. The manga goes farther as a matter of story, but not as a matter of necessary exposure. Again, this is all my opinion.

In Western culture, we cave to the thrill of mass media and like a bunch of giggling schoolgirls we want details, details details. It's annoying, rude, and grossly disrespectful, and I can't imagine the stress it adds to those who are in the media spotlight. Naturally, in our literature, we expect that there is a level of exposure to the relationships being portrayed; not as an affirmation of the relationship -which we already know is there- but as a blanket of security for the reader and as the public display of affection that our media-blasted minds crave.

In short, we want the book to do the work for us, instead of letting our imaginations create the ending that is implied. We aren't satisfied with the subtle, private ending; we want trumpets proclaiming it to the planet --an interesting insecurity, to be sure.

@TOW

I don't know about Western Europe, however most of those countries are Aries (Germany, France, and England), so these "insecurities" wouldn't count as much over there if you were to follow this. And you see it in their writing they don't have any problems with leaving the reader room for their imagination.

However over here in America we were blessed with the wonderful gift of having a Cancerian birthday (July 4th is smack dab in the middle of the crab), as well as a Gemini Ascendent which makes us often into hypocrites. (Preaching freedom and having slaves)

And shockingly I've found that as far as how societies are structured, astrology has the USA pegged down quite well.

After all what is the American dream?

A white pickett fence suburban home, with 2.5 kids, a wonderful spouse, and a decent paying job.

Coincidentially, this is the dream/desire of Cancer. Cancer, while it is the stage in which the soul is an "adolescent", also is a sign that actually looks forward to growing up and becoming a parent.

As being the "adolescent" stage for the soul, Cancer is liable to act like any preteen child. It wants to follow the crowd, and fearful of being marked as "different" or "odd" if it doesn't conform to the latest fad, as well as, they want to have a great and good time. Cancer is well known for its mimcry, which will often produce a few laughs, and often attract them attention. It's this attention that most Cancerians long and thrive for. Cancer longs to be in the spotlight, not because they have some huge ego (Leo has that), but because at least that way it can feel loved and accepted, not ignored. If people are trying to be like them, then they know that they're not being left out or excluded and that in a strange sense, they are "loved". Cancerians, like most preteens, are looking for acceptance from others and constantly doubting themselves, and attacking themselves when things don't go as planned.

Cancer has a lot of insequrities, and is often neurotically secretive. (The FBI, CIA, our Government, always keeping things from the public)

Cancer is always saving for a rainy day, and always OVERsaves: hiding gold nuggets underneath the garage for instance. (Fort Knox anyone?) Because after all, money can be here today and gone tommorow.

Cancer is deeply patriotic, in fact a Cancerian's patriotism is only second to a Taurean's patriotism (example of a Taurean patriotism: Adolf Hitler). And lets face it how many flags do you see flying outside when you pass those suburban houses (at least five per block from my experienc).

Cancer, while it does have its slight rebellious side (freedom and self expression is very important to Cancer), is very devoted to Mama, and is constantly conforming to Mama's expectations so as to be noticed by Mama and approoved of and loved. Whatever Mama does is right, Mama knows best, etc. And lets face it, how much British culture (our Aries mother... dear lord we have a Scarlet O'Hara personality as a mother country figure) constantly slips into our own? This book/series and these forums are testimony to that influence alone.

Cancer however at the same time wants to solve all the world's problems, with (you guessed it) a nice big bowl of chicken soup (The popular poetry book series "chicken soup for the (insert category) soul", anyone?). Cancer also is quite well known for its care packages that it sends to those who are in trouble and need some care (CARE packages that the army sent to Berlin, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.) Yet the other signs know that Cancer isn't giving as much as it could give and then accuse Cancer of being stingy, money grubbing, greedy capitalists. Cancer then recoiles, taking (as they take everything) the name calling personally and withdraws into its own shell and cries. Cancer then starts saying the mantra that no one understands them, no one loves them *sob sob*.

Basically Cancer is your suburban emo kid, your friendly Rockefeller (most of them were/are Cancers), your boistrous Henry the VIIIs, as well as the average American homemaker (male or female).

However, does Cancer ever get over it's insequrities? It can, if it would just learn that in order to GET love you have to GIVE it. Not just give out polite gestures and hot bowls of chicken soup, but to actually give their love to another person. Because after all that spotlight's charm just seems dull after a while as Cancer realizes that the public who mimics them doesn't really care about them, the person, but the "image" of they give off. And had the Cancerian just learned to put themselves out there and risk the chance of getting hurt by actually giving love out to another person, they would have been given the greatest gift of all, the natural love, attention, and care that Cancer thrives off of and helps them become much more confident and less pessimistic.

And that is why I think American culture needs the trumpets. We are a Cancerian nation after all.

~Salamon2

shall we go back to the original point of topic. How ever much astrology intrigues me I doubt this is the right place to put that info on


I think you mean the anime Emma: A Victorian Romance.

After thinking it over there is one pairing i can think off that resembles H/Hr

Kaname/Souseke(Full Metal Panic)

It has elements that ate somewhat comparable to H/Hr

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Souseke grew up in an enviorment without love. to gim comradeship is as close to love as he gets. Both are thrust into an unknown world.
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Although Harry does not have any weapons bare a stick. in personality they are in some points alot alike.

Now I'm not saying Hermione is as violent as Kaname but she does have the tendency to scol Harry for what he did wrong but she cares for him a lot.

I can't name all the similarities but those who have seen it will surely know some points

Gomen nasai Jayu. I can't help myself sometimes.

:bow:

~Salamon2

Happens to all of us. If you read between the lines of my posts you'll see i rant the whole time about senseless things.

merged with similar topic - PK mods

What anime has characters that remind you of harry and hermione, and them getting together? I only one anime in mind and that is 'tokyo majin gakuen kenpucho', because there are two main guys, hiyu and kyuchi. this is the only anime where it is hard to distinguish who is the main hero and heroine, but i knew who they were right away, lol. At first it seems that

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kyuchi is the main hero, but then we find out that hiyu is actually the main hero and has a secret power that no one knows about. Kyuchi reminds me of ron, because he says mean things to the main girl, aoi, and makes her feel bad about herself, even though he does it with the intention to protect her from not taking part of the battle. I think he cares about her like a sister, but not as a lover. At the end it was Hiyu who saves aoi, who was possessed by an evil spirit, while kyuchi helps fight off the goons. So, yeah, the hero got the girl in this anime,
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and the main girl is smart, loyal, has a 'people saving thing', and truly cares for her friends, and is also class president. So in ways, she reminds me of Hermione.

anyway, what anime reminds you of harmony?

It's hard to find one since most anime have the 'fighting' couple. Here are some examples:

Ranma 1/2- Ranma/Akane
Inu Yasha- Inu Yasha/Kagome
Love Hina- Keitaro/Naru
Fullmetal Alchemist- Ed/Winry
Trigun- Meryl/Vash
Yu Yu Hakusho- Keisuke/Keiko
Neon Gensis Evangelion- Shinji/Asuka
Dragon Ball Z- Vegeta/Bulma
Kodocha- Sana/Hayama
Fruits Basket- Tohru/Kyo Even though Tohru is more about not fighting. Kyo does it enough for both of them haha

Those are just a few. There are tons more

Those are all fighting couples, they argue because they are sexually frustrated with each other and they always hurt each other. Yet you know that they love each other but are in denial. There is no confusion as who loves who unlike with JKR's stuff. She deliberatly confused us and laughed at us when we went toward H/Hr, basically calling us stupid when it was she who set it up that way.

When its not a fighting couple in most anime, its one that you know for absolute sure they are in love right from the very beginning.

Fushigi Yuugi is one of those - Miaka/Tamahome
Almost all of Yuu Watase's work shows a pure attraction and love right from the very beginning. I've read all her manga of all her series.


So I have yet to see any couple in all the anime (And I have quite an extensive collection) That remind me of Harry/Hermione situation.

Ryoga/Ukyo on Ranma 1/2 are a lot like Harry/Hermione. Niether couple happened but they did share romantic moments. Both couples are good friends who occasionally get into arguments and deal with it.

Kyoichi/Chiharu of Boys Be as well. They are childhood friends and ended up falling for each other. They did start fighting and then broke up but the rest of this short series was leading up to them getting back together.

Well I have to disagree. I'm not sure Ryouga and Ukyou really fit the Harry/Hermione situation, because well we all know Ryouga was

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attracted to Ukyou and he didn't deny that. It didn't take much for him to switch loyalties on who belonged in his heart. Several times Ranma dressed as a girl was able to sway Ryouga's mind and heart, pretty easily at that. Now one I Think involving Ryouga and an H/Hr type situation is an episode where he went to some sort of Western type storyline with Anna where he defended her town. They were friends for awhile. And we all know he was attracted to her and wanted her, but did nothing about it, since his heart stayed with Akane.

In this case

Ryouga= Harry
Akane= Hermione
Anna= Cho/Ginny/any other girl.
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And according to how we see Harry/Hermione, we know Harry can be attracted to other girls, but he still always goes back to Hermione.

and this is where it becomes different as its been noted in the books that Harry is attracted to Hermione, but does nothing about it.

That's a brillant idea you had it here folks. Since the realm of anime is very large, I was hoping that one separated thread would be open to discuss on the matter.

For me, I had one pairing in mind:

Kira and Lacus (Gundam SEED/Destiny): They started as "enemies" since Kira was with the Earth Forces while Lacus was the daughter of the leader of the space colonies' ZAFT forces.

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Kira saves Lacus as her escape pod was floating away in space after her ship was destroyed a bit earlier, he acts very kindly towards her despite the fact she was officially a high-ranked "prisoner of war", she starts liking him a little.

Long after Kira returned Lacus safely to ZAFT, he got severely injured after a battle on Earth. Lacus got the news of Kira's injuries from a secret communication and managed to bring him up to the space colonies for medical attention while also hiding his identity as an enemy soldier. After Kira was healed, Lacus gave him a new machine in order to fight for a new common ideal: to protect all people against those who desire war. At the end of SEED, Kira had a hard time sorting his own feelings because his first love (a very beautiful girl on the outside whose attitude reminds of Ginny or Cho a little) was killed in the last battle.

After the first war and 2 years later facing a new threat, we see Kira and Lacus being true soulmates to each other as she healed him from the pain of the past while he still shares that ideal of fighting against the true vilains behind wars.
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We have many scenes of them being quite in love despite not having much physical contact (no kisses, mostly hugs) - that ticked off many fans of the series, but that particular aspect alone was already linked to my perspective of H/Hr.

I might add for more later on. B)

I think Sailor moon is as close as your going to get with H/Hr

serena/darien

cant go wrong

i dont know many anime, but Sakura/Syaoran reminds me of Harry/Hermione a lot

Hmm I don't know about Usagi and Mamoru. I don't know if their situation mirrors H/Hr relationship. They're kind of lovey dovey right from the start and there is no mistake that they will get together in the end.

Keep looking guys, I'm sure there's one somewhere.

You know I think a Fruits Basket situation could mirror H/Hr situation, because for more than half of the series,

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Tohru doesn't know who she loves. The angsty, soft spoken, but able to fight when its necessary Yuki, or the hot headed, jumping into a fight Kyo.

Kyo= Ron
Yuki= Harry
Tohru= Hermione (Tohru's a lot smarter than people give her credit for, her spaceyness is all an act)

Too bad its the same situation as the H/Hr/R as Tohru completely ends up falling for Kyo, while Yuki ends up with a background character that we only saw once or twice before the end of the manga.
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You only see her once in the anime and that was around like the first five eps and then never again.

No, I don't think so...and this is coming from someone who used to be a HUGE BSSM fan (I mean all of the episodes in Japanese and dubbed, all of the manga, etc.). Since we're going by the anime, not the manga, Usagi really doesn't

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like Mamoru at all until she finds out his identity (I mean, there are hints of her not HATING him, like in the painting episode, but nothing else, really), and same for Mamoru in terms of his feelings for Usagi. And then there's Usagi kind of fangirling over Tuxedo Kamen, so if anything it hints at H/G... Once they're in an actual relationship, their emotional connection is a bit similar to that of Harry and Hermione's (whenever they actually show it...), but the fact remains that their relationship just...happened. They were never friends first, and there's no build up from a friendship to an actual relationship.
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Are you talking of Sakura/Syaoran from Card Captor Sakura or the ones from their alternate universe called Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles?

About another pairing, I thought of Hitomi/Van from Escaflowne: Hitomi Kanzaki was a normal high school student in Tokyo before she was

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transported into another world and then discovers that she has certain "powers" (reminds of Harry's situation, anyone?), especially the ability to predict the future. She saw Van first as rude but soon realizes how kind he actually is behind the facade of a warrior - it was the start of their story.

Van Slanzar of Fanelia is a king warrior who was a little tactless towards girls at the beginning, but deep within himself has a very kind personality. After saving each other's lives a number of times, he starts growing stronger feelings towards her and trusts his life to her, always wanting to protect her as well. It wasn't until the very end of the series that Van and hitomi realize their mutual feelings of love for each other; it's noteworthy to say that Van and Hitomi really became like soulmates in the late stages of the story.

Like we can expect of a possible love triangle between Harry/Hermione/Ginny, Hitomi had eyes for a long time over a handsome swordsman, Allen Schezar, because that guy reminded her of her high school crush. Like Ginny has witchcraft skills, popularity and dates lots of guys, Allen was (kinda) the best swordsman alive, was a very well known as a knight and was a play-boy to say the least. Nonetheless, Hitomi managed to be, as Allen says, the first woman to resist at his advances. Allen recognized how Van and Hitomi needed each other, something I wish Ginny was able to do as well.
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A pretty good example of a pairing close to H/Hr since they were one the best anime couples ever. Thanks to their story and the whole story of Escaflowne, I've become a huge fan anime since then.

Well the situation is a bit similar I guess in the case of Escaflowne. As Harry this time mirrors Hitomi.

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Except for her sucidial thoughts and tendencies haha.
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BUt yeah I can see it in there.

Oh, I never counted the movie version of Hitomi when discussing about Escaflowne (I also like the movie but not as much as the series ).

Harry of course mirrors Hitomi in this one. When I was thinking back in the past to find pairings, I never asked myself what if Harry had a female counterpart living the same situation in another universe until I found Hitomi's story - a pretty good one indeed.

Danny, maybe it will spin a fanfiction idea for you. I could actually see it working in that way.

I always thought Ichigo and Rukia from Bleach were a bit like Harry and Hermione.

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Ichigo and Rukia start off not liking each other, but then Ichigo saves her life and they become tentative friends. Just like Harry and Hermione in SS. As the series goes on, their bond grows, and it becomes obvious to everyone but themselves that they love each other. In one early episode a girl asks Rukia whether she and Ichigo are dating, and she waves it off with the annoying, "we're just friends" line. Sound familiar?

Ichi and Rukia would die for one another, as I believe Harry and Hermione would. Well, Harry did die in order to save Hermione and the world, but he came back. Wait, what's this? That's right! Ichigo became a "hallow" (which is a sort of undead creature) and then came back to life in order to save Rukia. Yes, I know that Rukia and Ichigo fight with each other, which might make some people think they are more like Ron and Hermione, but it's usually over important, life-and-death things, like Rukia yelling at Ichigo to save himself and let her die.
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Another similiarity between Bleach and Harry Potter: There's this annoying red-head whom all the guys are in love with. She's so perfect and happy all the time, and she has this major crush on Ichigo. (Ginny-Sue, anyone?)

ORIHIME!!! I should have known it.

Good analysis, mate. I never saw that one before.

oh i have some!

patzu and sheeta from Castle in the Sky
san and ashitaka from Princess Mononoke
domon and rain from g gundam
shin'ichi and ran from case closed
howl and sophie of Howl's moving castle, though i don't think this one really counts since it wasn't initially an anime but rather one of the most fantastic books ever but book or anime the couple mirrors harry and hermione
kenshin and kaoru from rurouni kenshin
nausicaa and asbel of nausicaa of the valley of the wind
anzu and yugi or even atemu of yugi-oh
fiona and van from zoids
chihiro and kohaku from spirited away
and i think ranma and akane of ranma 1/2 because they only really fight because ranma's generally trying to keep akane out of danger and akane wants to help out other fights are due to jealousy (shampoo is ginny!) and misunderstandings

cardcaptor sakura. i dont even know the other one

Naruto and Sakura from Naruto

Just like HP, its fandom is split disproportionately. The largest ship is SasuSaku, which supports Sasuke and Sakura. This relationship imo, was mostly one-sides, with Sakura having a fangirl crush. Another huge ship is SasuHina; another fangirl relationship. NaruSaku started off as a very small ship, but it has gradually increased in numbers, though not as large as the previous two.

I love Naruto and Sakura together. It's my OTP of Natruto, but personality wise, I think they behave more like Ron and Hermione. Now the fandom aspect is completely like Harry Potter. Those who ship SakuSaske, or whatever their name is, also randomly pair Naruto with Hinata, this girl who has this annoying fangirl crush on him. And the NaruSaku fans are in the minority like Harmonians, and they happen to be more rational beings, at least in my experience. No offense to any Sasuke and Sakura fans out there.



Thanks. I'm glad I could enlighten you. lol

I just want to add that I don't hate Orhime like I hate Ginny-Sue. I just don't like her with Ichigo.

Someone mentioned earlier that Inuyasha/Kagome are like Ron/Hermione, but there is one big diffrence:

Whenever Inuyasha makes Kagome cry,
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he immediately gets this 'Oh sh*t' look on his face and tries to apologize. Now, whether or not Kagome actually accepts the apology is up to chance, as I remember one time she kicked Inuyasha down a well after he made her cry.
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I think one pairing like H/Hr is Rin/Haru from Fruits Basket. They have been friends since they were young and they want to protect one another.
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Haru is very polite and nice until he gets mad and goes black. He reminds me of Harry, who was always polite in the majority of the first books, but gets rightly angry in the fifth book. Rin is like Hermione in that she can kick *ss and is very smart. Rin also wants to protect Haru from Akito and lies to Akito to do so, like Hermione does to Umbridge in OotP.
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Wow! You mentioned almost every couple listed in any Miyazaki or Studio Ghibli feature, talking of classical ways to make pairings come true as they are close to H/Hr.

I guess I should also add Seiji and Shizuku from Whisper of the Heart to continue under that line.

I also thought of Parn and Deedlit a little from Lodoss Wars since I'm not quite that deep into their story yet. At the same time I thought some aspects of Kira/Lacus to describe as close to H/Hr, I should rather look at Athrun and Cagalli from Gundam SEED/Destiny.

i like miyazaki's stuff and i really think that most of them are very like h/hr

also i nominate haru/elie from rave master to being like h/hr

I was just thinking Keiichi and Belldandy from Oh My Goddess. I didn't see the connection until I got later in the series but at the end of the first TV series we learn that the two had

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met before the series started when they were children but Keiichi's memory was erased. Both couples knew each other for a long time before getting together (although K/B didn't see each other for years).
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I just finished watchin a classic cartoon anime called Robotech or Macross and I really thought the relatonship between capt. Hayes and Lt. Rick Hunter is somehin how Harry/Hermione were in Harry Potter. Although the japanese version is so much better than the english version. Anyway, if any of you've seen or remebered seein this anime, than I think you would find that Rick/Lisa Hayes relationship is similar to Harry/Hermione. Seriously, if you've haven't seen this anime you really should. I think it's awesome how their relationship blossomed from strangers to friendship to love. Unlike harry/ginny. So i'm just ramblin now, so just check it out, or let me know your responses.

Oh I have always been a big fan of the old Robotech cartoons and books, so yeah I agree that Rick and Lisa have Harry and Hermione written all over them. Heck, they even look like them.


In fact I think I should whip out my DVDs of the series and my copies of the books and see how good a relationship that Harry and Hermione could have had.

That's a very interesting thought indeed since I liked that pairing when I watched the series.

Why not put a more in-depth discussion in the thread named "What anime pairing reminds you of H/Hr?" to make more comparisons as well?