Mod Note: Edited Topic Title - Mirtilla 3/11/2004 Original title was Hi ~Anazecria/Nielle making note of it just in case.

Hi ermm, I don't know how to put this but well,
I realise that your are mostly H/Hr shippers here and I just popped by to see what you think about your ship. I realise that you all support it greatly and I admire your dedication to it. If you think it'll happen in cannon, good luck to you!
However I can't help but notice little comments about R/Hr shippers that mabey you put in unconciously.
While here I've noticed little comments about our intelligence, creativity and you seem to have COMPLETLY dissmised how mabey we might see things a different way. I'm not saying that you all do but I've noticed it once or twice. Mabey it's just me picking up on trivial things.
I know that all the R/Hr shippers I know do try and see things how you may and then say that they personally don't agree but can see how you might.
I realise that R/Hr and H/Hr shippers don't naturally get along but I ask you to recognise that we too are human and we all have different views, so if you could mabey try and look through our perspective before automatically dismissing our views.
I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm moaning but I just felt it had to be said
Thanks for listining and hopefully understanding,
Becky

It's great that some R/Hr shippers can come here and speak thier views. It makes Portkey a more enjoyable place. I like people who are open-minded enough to see our point of view, even though they may not agree.

I have noticed those comments as well, but I never said anything along those lines. All shippers have different stereotypes. I'm sorry if you feel offended by any of that. I started one topic about common stereotypes of H/Hr shippers and it got a bit out-of-hand, so I apologize for that

I try to stay away from things like the DT at FictionAlley. I don't really enjoy going to FA all that much, because of the endless ship-bashing on both ends( i.e. the Anti-H/Hr and Anti-R/Hr threads ). I wish we all could get along. But thanks to threads like those, it's made it nearly impossible! I have many R/Hr friends, so I definitely understand things from thier point of view as well.

---Kalie

Hi Kalie,
I'm not perticularly offeneded by these comments it just seemed that they were going unnoticed by everyone here.
I thought that it was all completley subconcious
I'm glad to know that people did notice it and realise it was happening.
As for "ship-bashing", I know what you mean it seems that sometimes the places that are meant to be "enemy territory" so to speak can have the most understanding shippers. However those places that are neutral just seem to be battle grounds!
Anyway I'm glad to know it's not just going unnoticed by the everyone,
Becky

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Hi ermm, I don't know how to put this but well, I realise that your are mostly H/Hr shippers here and I just popped by to see what you think about your ship. I realise that you all support it greatly and I admire your dedication to it. If you think it'll happen in cannon, good luck to you!

Well, thanks!

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However I can't help but notice little comments about R/Hr shippers that mabey you put in unconciously. While here I've noticed little comments about our intelligence, creativity and you seem to have COMPLETLY dissmised how mabey we might see things a different way. I'm not saying that you all do but I've noticed it once or twice. Mabey it's just me picking up on trivial things.

I can only reassure you that we saw these comments too, and that we've already taken care of this problem!

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I realise that R/Hr and H/Hr shippers don't naturally get along but I ask you to recognise that we too are human and we all have different views, so if you could mabey try and look through our perspective before automatically dismissing our views.

I think most of us Portkeyers try to do just that, but there are always some people who tend to go over the top. But these people are on both sides and we try our best to keep our black sheeps under control.

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I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm moaning but I just felt it had to be said Thanks for listining and hopefully understanding, Becky

No need to be sorry, I think we all know how that feels!
So, if you see any offensive posts in the future, don't hesitate and inform a moderator. If we moderators don't know, we can't interact, and we can't check the boards 24 hours a day either.

Just adding to Magpie's Post: If you do happen to see something that is objectionable, report it. Our mods will look into it. A certain amount of jest is allowed, but not it's not acceptabel by the mods to see R/Hr or any other ships getting bashed and generalised.

[edit]Jest: Just to clarify what jest is allowed. It's the same as what is allowed on SugarQuill. Mild occational comments that aren't insulting. Before you think of writing this, think seriously how you would be feeling if you were on the recieving end of soemthign like this, and double it. If you think you can stand it, think if EVERYONE is going to able to stand it. If there is any doubt, don't post comments like that.[/edit]

Just really popping in to say thanks; it's good to have it so respectful here.

I have noticed some bashing in the past as well, but really I just ignore it mostly. I understand that we each ship our ships through difference of opinion on interpretations of canon, and if some people are not open-minded enough to see that, then it's their own loss. I've got respect for anyone who accepts other ships, really.

But anyway. I'm rambling, yet again. Thanks to the Moddies!

-Jules. xxx

solidarity r/h shippers. the reason i didnt sign up to this site before is because there did not seem to be ANY other r/h shippers and i was ... afraid of getting attacked. i've seen many h/h attacks purely because someone said they ship r/h and didn't even say anything against h/h shippers...

the only way to tell will be when the books come out...

Well, firstly welcome to portkey.Off course heartly welcome.

Now I don't mind if you ship R/Hr or any other ship. Its just a different opinion, right? On portkey thats what I can say you don't get attacked that much because you ship R/Hr. If there are attacks just report it. Its simply against the rules.

Off course its normal if you write about R/Hr that you get comments and that this comments are not with your opinion agree this is something what you should expect. I do expect it always if I went at the DT or other boards and write about H/Hr.

Naturally I would get more disagreement if I go straight to sugarquill. I have to expect it as long its not personal so long is it all right. Thats what I mean I did till now not read personal state at portkey which were against you, but if there are some the mod take care of it. Thats there job and by the way they do it very bloody amazing fantastic .

Thats all and I hope you enjoy it.

Im glad that well known "enemy" ships can get along so well. It's not as if we hate the H/Hr-ers. We just feel really misunderstood as Im sure you do too at times. Ship bashing seems so immature. It's just an opinion and we'll wait and see what JKR has in store for us.

~Happy Shipping!

-Padfo0t

We understand exactly how you feel about your ship, because we feel the exact same about ours!

I have seen comments made by R/Hr shippers that are derogatory to us, recently on this website!

It really offends US because we believe what we believe and you believe what you believe. I can imagine how it offends you when someone from your site comes and goes into your forum and begins to say that they used up their last sick bag.

I have so much respect for the respectable R/Hr shippers who come here and try to make peace.

KUDOS TO YOU!

Amanda Rose

Hello RHShipper. Welcome to Portkey

Yes, we do notice the bashing that goes on around here, and sadly I have been part of it at one point but I learned from my mistakes and do my best not to. Our MOD's around here are very good and usually do their best to fix up any of the incredably shoddy things that we say. It's not often, but we do understand how bad it can feel when something you feel so strongly about is insulted. It happens to us all the time . I hope you enjoy your stay at our ship. *Passes some pumpkin pie* Have fun here. It's what we like to think we're about.

Hello R/Hrs!!!

Nice to meet you!!

Maybe you've had bad experience with H/Hr shippers in the past, but I assure you most of us are not like that.. we are generally nice, carefree, accepting people.

I know, I, for one try to accept other's views. I mean, how boring would it be if everyone thought EXACTLY the same way, and had the same opinion on everything?! I would be like living in black and white.

Yes, we try not to bash here much, and we definetly try to stay respectful. And don't worry, I promise, if you post here you wont get bombarded with mean remarks. We're nice to the R/Hrs here unless you come on here and bash us. Then we get mean and hateful. lol! but thats to be expected.

And just remember, you'll be accepted with open arms as long as you dont argue and debate with us on everything (there's special threads such as this, for that) and just be nice, and talk about Harry Potter peacfully with us.

Anyways, hope your stay here is pleasant, and come back often!

*hugs to all*

~*Amanda

I have to say I'm an R/Hr shipper- obsessively, even check out my signature. The reason I joined here was mainly because of Draco/Ginny, and I have noticed some stabs about Ron and Hermione. But I have to say that this is the most friendly message board I've ever been at.

I too am glad we can all get along here. I respect H/Hr shipper's opinion and I can see where it came from. I, ah... heh, I used to ship them too, after reading the first book, but that obviously changed somewhere along the way...

But anyway, I'm just happy that I can post here without getting bashed or anything.

~Faith~

Hi!!
Welcome to you all!

I'm happy that there's the opportunity for R/Hr and H/G shippers (and any other shippers) to visit here without getting bashed.
I, personally, love to see other people's opinions and views and discuss them.

Hope to see you all more often on the forum

Kalie:

Hello Portkey.org!

I've seen a few people here admit that they're Goodshippers (R/Hr) but I have yet to see anyone who admits to being a H/G shipper. So... does that mean I'm the first??

I started off shipping R/Hr about the middle of PoA, but somewhere during GoF I walked across the gangplank to H/G. I still ship R/H as a side ship and I'd love to see Ron date Luna for a while, as long as he finds his way home As I've said on FAP, I'm a Ginny fan first, then a H/G shipper. So I'm cool here as long as people don't bash Ginny.

As far as H/Hr, I don't really see how it could happen in canon, but if it does, I have confidence in JKR's ability to make it work, even if I can't see it working.

But that's just my opinion.

Kirkis, who sometimes talks too much for his own good.

ETA - W00T I started off the second page!

Hey Portkey-ers!

Hmm, well I've made my intro (sort of) in the H/Hr vs R/H + H/G thread, but I'll just comment here as well...

First of all, *stands up like in a AA meeting* my name is Caderyn and I'm a R/H shipper. I think it'll always be my 'warm&fuzzy' ship (y'know, the one that makes you all warm inside), but I've recently become very OPEN to H/Hr. I don't think I should repeat my reasons for shipping this way since I've already said it on the other thread.

Well, I just wanna tell you that I LOVE this board. Not only is the ACTUAL board itself (as in the technicalities of posting, etc) easy to access, the people here (mostly H/Hr shippers) are generally nice! And your arguments are truly very interesting. It's just a completely different look at the book (in terms of shipping/relationships). I think that's the basic difference between H/Hr and R/H, y'know? Different interpretations of the same book. No one's completely right or wrong...

Anyway, I actually love being the minority here. To tell you the truth, I'm a bit reluctant to post at the R/H board because everyone's there is such an expert on every ity, bity R/H interaction that I've got nothing new to say. Plus, some of them aren't very tolerant to diverging views, which is a shame really, because mature debate is a very healthy thing.

Oops, I think I just went off on a tangent. Basically just wanna say 'hi' and hope I can give out valid arguments in future debates that won't offend anyone.

P. S.= To Kirkis, at the risk of becoming a typical GoodShipper, I'm gonna say that I'm for H/G as well. Sort of. The thing is I'm not sure who Harry should end up with. I think that H/G is actually likely (and I've agued for this in another thread as well, so I won't repeat) but I'm not exactly roooting or shipping the Orange Crush.

Since we all gathered here,I couldn't be missing...
I'm Lina,and I adore R/Hr! (since I read PoA)
I think many H/Hers have their right points,I agree with many things that are posted in essays,but still... to tell my truth,I honestly can't imagine it happening in canon.

As for the fanon part,it just doesn't interest me,I find it a bit boring.It's a matter of taste when it comes to fanon anyway.

The reason I came to this site was because I like D/G and L/J,and also because I wanted to understand the way H/Hers see things.I did find out many things I've never thought about before,and I thank all of you here (H/Hers or not)very much for that.


Finally,about H/G,I can see it happening in canon,it might piss me off a bit if it doesn't happen,but as for the fanon part of it... the same counts as with H/H... with the exception of some very good fics,I'm very easily bored with H/G fics. Again,the matter of taste...

Welcome Kirkis, Caderyn and Lina Granger I hope you guys are enjoying your stay here at PK and the H/Hr thread especially....

You're views are pretty much welcome here and if you guys would venture into our debate threads you might find really nice insights that you might want to conform with or detract.... it's pretty much just a healthy exchange of thoughts and views.....

Funny..... how you find H/Hr not happineing and how I find H/G rather farfetch like what you said....lina it's all a matter of taste and view point i guess.... I hope to see you guys around often.....

~Karen

I see what you're saying. I know that this is not the thread to discuss this, but I think R/H vs H/Hr shippings are about passion vs connection. Ron and Hermione seem to have more 'passion' (which manifests in the fighting), whereas Harry and Hermione appear to have more 'connection' (in the way they understand each other). And the way people ship may just be influenced by which quality they think is more important in a relationship.

Being very unexperienced in the love department, I honestly don't know the answer to that. I just ship Ron/Hermione because that's the ship that naturally comes to me. *shrugs* maybe I do prefer the passion. Who knows...

RHShipper, hey...welcome. You can come here anytime you want. Even if you are R/Hr shipper.

We don't mind R/hr fan here...as long as they don't go overbroad or try to drown our H/hr ship..with their bashing.

Personally, I don't see point of why, R/Hr fan come here anyway. This is Site for H/hr fan...if they don't like what they see or whinny about H/Hr ship. Why do they come here!! Hellllooo..