why is Darkstar always right? no one can be right all the time. blast all this improbability, it makes my head hurt. too much higher level math, that i'm not sure i even understand. and yes i know i'm not making any sense, i'm not supposed to. *rips hair out in frustrastion*

@Darkstar quote:
Well, I've seen a lot of stereotypes of H/Hr shippers...
*Obsessed with subtext that doesn't exist
*Think JKR is a pathalogical liar
*Absolutely hate Ron and want him to die
*Think Hermione is absolutely 100% perfect
*Ignore other ships entirely (I find this one especially amusing since I see it in a lot of the shippers saying such things)
*Are sappy, since we love the idea that the hero gets the girl
*Elitist and contempuous of those we deem "dumb"
*Ill-tempered
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yes, I couldn't agree more...anti-H/Hr lover think..that we are all that. But I have to confessed, I do hate Ron and want him to die...but that is MY PERSONAL OPINION.

I become slightly irritated when told that, because I'm a H/Hr shipper, I'm a Ron-hater. Especially given the fact that I adore Ron. I think, "Well, thank you so much for telling me my own thoughts."

Honestly, the stereotypes are so ridiculous. Attempting to classify the characteristics of a group of people based on their shipping preferences for fictional characters--makes so much sense, doesn't it?

well, i wouldn't mind the other stereotypical comments the only thing i hate is they undermind as being dumb and too stupid to see the obvious..... I deal with math all the time..... i don't love the subject very much but just the same it is quite helpful.... one thing is for certain..... just putting it in comparison...... simple problems have simple solutions what we consider the obvious... but complex problems need complex and believable answers not just based on the obvious but also with what will satisfy the whole context of the problem..... If a story is done just to put up the obvious thing.... it would bore the readers to death...... I'm not saying that only H/Hr shippers use their minds and think about the stuffs they read..... but hey sometimes people only read the stuff on the surface and not look deeper into what is written.... JK is a smart person.... and unlike what other critiques say about her writing for me she has a lot of depth in what she writes.... i mean we wouldn't be shipping different ships if it's only based on what they say is the obvious.....

Stereotypes, IMO, are just plain stupid and nearly all of them aren't true. Example: Blondes are dumb. Excuse-me, but I am blonde and I am certainly not dumb. Another example: Left-handed people have crappy handwriting. Ha, as if. My mother, a lefty, has the most amazing handwriting I've ever seen. She gets complemented on it all the time.

*Calming down*

Actually, when it comes to H/Hr stereotypes, I just don't get them. I personally don't believe in the "Hero gets the girl" cliche. I think that whoever seems to have good chemistry together should get together. Harry and Hermione have good chemistry. Plus, the bickering is a bit of a turn-off when it comes to R/Hr. But that doesn't mean that I hate Ron, which comes to my next point. Why do many R/Hr shippers believe that we hate Ron? Ron's a great character, he just has his little foibles.

That's just my two cents.

I completely agree with you guys.
I despise stereotypes.. they make me so angry!

Hmm.. lets see. Pumpkineer stereotypes

1) We all hate Ron (thats true for me though.. except I only 'strongly dislike him' and thats my personal opinion, it doesnt mean everyones like that)
2) We're too romantic and cheesy
3) We cant stand any other ships
4) We hate JKR and we're deliberately defying her; we're supposedly rebellious.
5) We dont read things properly/We put too much meaning into things and we 'read between the lines' and 'analyze things' too much.
6) We're snobby and look down at people 'jus bCuz dey cnt tak proprly' (translation: just because they cant talk properly) and because we supposedly think we're better then everyone.
7) If H/Hr dont get together, we're going to rebell against the books since we're so obsessed about being 'anti-canon' that we dont pay attention to the 'real story'
(ok give me a break )

Hmm.. all I can think of now.
lol.

The point is, I hate being stereotyped! *grrrrrrr!*

Oh and btw everyone the webspeak jokes are really funny! lol.

"i kan tak prplrly. i jus chuse n0t 2 cuz i tink im kewl"
meeheehee *devilish grin* how fun!

~latta

xoxoxox

Luv ~*Amanda

Haha. Well put, Manda.

I have to admit, at one point, I was a full-out R/Hr shipper (I read the fifth book expecting it! *smacks head angrily* Why?!)... I guess I just relied on JK too much. Seriously, she's never been known to make her books obvious. And to me, R/Hr is way too obvious. So obvious it's almost saddening to think about.

I was converted to H/Hr (thank you Manda!), and now, when I look back... Well, let's just say I can't see Harry being with anyone but Hermione, and vice versa. (I could state about a million reasons, but I'm too tired... It's 2:00 in the morning - - and I'm one sleepy girl...)

Hmm. Personally, I like Ron (though I heartily disagree with OBHWF -> it's too farfetched), and I would never want him killed. And all that junk about us H/Hr shippers hating Ron! Balderdash!

Ginny? I don't know why, but I've never really liked her. I've never really *disliked* her, but, well, it seems that JK really under-developed her character - imho. I feel like I never got to know her, like I have with the others. But her being a ####? It's just those R/Hr shippers wanting attention. *grins* You guys know how some people are automatically attracted to dirty words and behavior...

*sigh* I hate to group the R/Hr shippers into tendancies, but I've noticed that most of them (the more involved and defensive ones, of course) are sort of immature. They accuse us of 'over-analyzing' the books and 'reading between the lines', but isn't that what we *should* do? JK is trying to steer us off-track by adding in Ron's infatuation with Hermione, but in reality, it's Harry who can really tune into her feelings, and again, vice versa. Also, the reason they believe in R/Hr is because they don't 'read between the lines'. If someone just picked up the series at a bookstore - without having any preference couple-wise - and read it (without 'reading' it, like we do... *grins*), then I'm sure at least 90% would say it will be R/Hr. But I have to say this again: JK has always surprised us, hasn't she? Sirius' innocence, Quirrell's secret, Chamber of Secrets opened by Ginny, Cedric's death... I mean, who was expecting all of that?

To end this rambling, I think that those certain R/Hr shippers should stay out of other people's opinionated websites, pull their heads out of the clouds, and face the fact that not everyone is the same, and that freedom of speach isn't against the law! (at least not on the internet! )


-Lauren

btw, in general, I love R/Hr shippers -> most of my friends are just that. I go along with it, but they don't know about my passionate inner H/Hr shipper-self. PUMPKIN PIE FOREVER!!!

Just a quick stereotype for me. Since OotP cane out, I've noticed that many of the R/Hr shippers have said something about H/Hr shippers making the R/Lu pairing so that H/Hr can be together.

I have to counterpoint that. After all, many of the R/Hr shippers are huge fans of the OBHWF thing. To me, that sort of puts Harry with Ginny so that R/Hr can happen.

I have read the books several times, and nowhere in the books can I find any kind of arrow that points to an H/G pairing. I see several pointers for R/Hr, and several for H/Hr, but nowhere do I see the markings for H/G, other than Ginny having a crush on Harry. She was barely even mentioned in GOF.

Sorry to go off topic here, but can anyone tell me where the H/G ship comes from? I can't see it, and I'm trying not to STEREOTYPE the R/Hr shippers as false matchmakers, simply so their plot can work, as they seem to do for us.

What I think is this, fullsailnate.

I agree with everything you said - that R/Hr shippers are trying to put H/G together for it to work (maybe not everyone, but still). But I think that the reason some people are H/G shippers are because they want OBHWF, and H/G is one of the key components to achieving that... er... goal.

Though, I've been wondering as well why people should think that Harry returns feelings for Ginny, when obviously she was the one who had feelings for him. Besides, during the fifth book, JK clearly states that she is over him (she even dates other guys! lol!) ... And, to Harry, she's just Ron's 'little sister'.

In fact, I can understand R/Hr more than H/G, and that's saying something. Because R/Hr has a basis -> obviously Ron likes Hermione (anyone who can't see that has got their head stuck in the ground). But I don't see her liking him back. At all. And the day people convince me of that is the day hell freezes over.

Oh well. I'm no better off than you. *grins* Maybe you should ask them... venture into another territory, eh? haha. We could have spies or something... *nudge nudge*

Hope that helped. A bit.

-Lauren

Hey, great points Laurie!
I whole heartedly agree.

And I think the reason why many R/Hr shippers also like G/H not only because of the OBHWF idea, but also because of their personalities. The shippers are probaby the type to like the idea of little sister falling in love with big brother's best friend and them getting married and them all being together. Also the idea of; girl liking guy, guy being nice to her and 'saving her life' but not noticing her, and them being together in the end. They like the damsel in distress idea, while us H/Hr shippers think that Hermione is a big girl and she can handle herself (with a little help from Harry) she doesnt need someone to be her knight and shining armour and she can save herself. So I think the reason why G/H shippers like G/H is cause they enjoy ideas such as that and think they're romantic.

Hoped that helped.. I kind of tried to step into G/H fans's shoes (it wasnt easy, believe me!) lol.

talk later ppl!

xoxoxoxo

~*Manda

You Know what? I think Fan Fic influences some of our ideals about the characters. I have proof!

I read a fic where Ron attempts to rape Hermione- I hated Ron after that. So I sat down and read all four books over again to get Ron back on my goodside.

I do not hate Ron, nor do I think that Ginny is a weak character. Nor do I think that Ron is too 'stupid' for Hermione. I have read the books thank you very much. Each book-6 times. I know that is very little compared to some massive fans out there, but I do not read them for shipping (that's an added bonus) I read them because I love JK's writing. I do not base my shipping from watching the movies, even though Dan and Emma are adorable. And yes I am aware of what JK Rowling has said in her interviews about Ron and Hermione:

Interviewer: So does Hermione have a crush on Ron?

Jk: The answer to that is in the Goblet of Fire

pg 479 GoF, UK edition

" I vant to know" he said glowering," vot is there between you an Herm-own-ninny." Viktor Krum to Harry.

And:

Pg 480 GoF, Uk edition

"Herm-own-ninny talks about you very often," said Krum, looking very suspiciously at Harry.

Now *scratches head* if Hermione really did have a crush on Ron, would Viktor have gone up to Ron instead of Harry?

Why is it when Hermione kisses Harry on the cheek at the end of GoF, R/Hr's dismiss it as an act of friendship, but when Hermione does the same thing to Ron before his Quidditch game it's "True Love" ?

I do not hate OBHWF. Quite the contrary. I simple love the idea of Ron marrying Luna and Ginny hooking up with Draco...

MOD NOTE: Keep it nice, people. No bashing of R/Hr shippers as a whole group or other nastiness or I will shut this thread down.

Tistytosty

Okay I don't hate Ginny so I don't want to call her a tramp but I don't like the way some fics make her super girl all of a sudden so she can level to Hermione when it comes to Harry....

As for Ron.... I don't hate him but I love the Weasley twins over him

First of all, hiii everyone, I know I've been COMPLETELY MIA, but school got insanely crazy But I am back now, so hopefully this means I'll be posting more. I'm done with finals so it's all good.

*Ginny is a Tramp?
Woah..I dunno where to begin, but I definitely don't think that..

*Want Ron to die
I don't want him and Hermione together..but he doesn't have to leave the picture entirely

*Hero gets the Girl
Ok..thats a pretty big stereotype lol and I sort of agree with that one for this case..

Hmmm…let's disprove these!

*stupd

Uhm... okay. I suppose the fact that I've been an A student my entire life, took and aced various AP classes in high school, graduated high school a year early with honors and the second highest GPA in my class, got an award for the being in the top %5 of students in my state, and have a 146 IQ is entirely meaningless or something.

*ignerent

Considering that I am a voracious reader who goes through most books within a day, not to mention an English Literature major at university who is by her very nature obsessed with reading and re-reading and examining fiction of all sorts I highly doubt that I am ignorant of what's going on in the Harry Potter books.

*ron hatas

Dude. I [heart] Ron. I love Ron so much that I actually felt really bad for him in OotP since Hermione obviously prefers Harry and is quite dismissive of his blatant crush on her. On another note, if I ever ship him with Luna it's because I also love her, think the way that Ron is completely confuzzled by her is adorable, and I want Ronniekins to be happy.

*slut!ginny luvrs

Ginny's a slut? Since when? Nah, I don't think so at all. I don't hate Ginny or malign her character. I really give next to no thought to her existence, actually, just like Harry. I do however hate when people attempt to push the idea that Ginny will somehow in the last two books supplant Hermione as the main female character and as such become Harry's One Twu Wuv. Dude, ship your ship, but don't misrepresent and tear down other characters to do so.

*draco luvrs

I don't particularly love canon!Draco. I don't hate him. I believe that he serves his purpose as a being a prime example of Wizarding prejudices and what's wrong with leaving them lie and also, as a minor antagonist. Now, fanon!Angsty-Misunderstood-Dark-Prince-of-Love-Draco makes me want to commit honorable hara-kiri with a spork. Of course, that's an entirely different story...

*2 dum 2 c the obvius...that r + hr blong 2gether

Yes, because JKR is sooooo obsessed with doing the obvious [/sarcasm] Seriously, though, I love every single time that someone asks about H/Hr in an interview and JKR nonanswers by subverting attention to R/Hr by suggesting that there's more "tension" there. It fuels my opinion that R/Hr is actually one big red herring to mislead everyone from H/Hr. Also, people who can't have the most simple and basic conversation without getting into a row, who have serious issues with each other's basic personality traits, and who bring out the absolute worst in each other do not, under any circumstances, belong together. There's already enough divorce and spousal abuse in the real world. Why inundate our fiction with it too? Personally, I'm disturbed by the idea that so many R/Hr shippers seem to be young girls who look at Ron's often horrible behavior towards Hermione, fueled by his need to calm his own insecurities by tearing down her formidable intelligence, and then call it romantic.

*smut obsesd

7) I think not.
A) Though I read smut, I prefer plot.
and
B) The smut I read isn't even in this fandom.

*obhwf hatas

Ok. I'll agree with this one. I do hate OBHWF. Of course, that's because I don't like R/Hr and H/G is completely and totally non-existent. Then there's the fact that it's saccarine, trite, and an all around absurd and silly idea. I don't understand how anyone who reads the books could actually believe that that's how the series is going to turn out, especially seeing how JKR gets progressively darker as the books go by.

*not rite n da hed

I don't think prefering a more subtle, literarily rich, and mature ship means that I'm mentally disturbed.

*Are sappy, since we love the idea that the hero gets the girl

Actually, the idea of the hero getting the girl doesn't particularly appeal to me. Of course, in my personal opinion if you actually want to examine literary trends the classic "the hero gets the girl" outcome would be Harry and Cho. "The Girl" refers to the Love Interest; the female who is generally a non-entity and whose only purpose is to be the Love Interest. H/Hr would actually be better classified as "the male lead and female lead get together." Which I much prefer to "we only bicker and fight to hide our all-consuming passion for each other." Love-Hate relationships are the bane of my existence and the most obnoxious, immature, and wretched cliche in all of fictional relationships. The male and female leads getting together, at the very least, has logical narrative reasons for occuring (reasons from which I will spare you).

*Obsessed with subtext that doesn't exist

You know, I actually used to believe that there wasn't actually much textual evidence for H/Hr. Then I read OotP. I'm sorry but just the sheer amount of time during that book that Harry spends thinking about Hermione would have convinced me even if I hadn't already been on this ship.

*Think JKR is a pathalogical liar

No, actually, I think she's a brilliant author who is quite dedicated to keeping the outcome of the plotlines in her series a secret until they unfold in the end. Which is, coincidentally, why I don't believe for a second that R/Hr will be the final outcome since she constantly tries to get people to believe that without ever actually canonically offering mutual R/Hr up. Why would this woman who has multi-page contracts signed about what can and cannot be printed before she even gives an interview openly point out the final outcome of one of her plotlines?

*Elitist and contempuous of those we deem "dumb"

If I honestly think that someone is stupid I tend to pity them more than anything else. Of course, I have to be convinced of stupidity by actions/statements. I never automatically assume someone is stupid based on something so ultimately unimportant as their ship. I reject elitism in all its forms and I am always willing to hear anyone out.

*Ignore other ships entirely

Actually, I define Harry/Luna as my "tickles my fancy but not yet sold" ship. I'm also slightly interested in Ron/Luna, Ginny/Neville, and Hermione/Neville. One of my personal doctrines is that my enjoyment of something will never be dependant upon the well-being of my ship, as such, I tend to be open-minded about ships.

somehow i just love reading their comments about us and our really nice comebacks.... truth is....we all have our own stereotypical views and they can't say that they don't have any because they would fall under big fat liars....

Since I don't visit non-H/Hr sites I really can't comment on stereotypes about H/Hr Shippers. Patrick/Darkstar is right, we do our fair share of generalising too.

But looky looky, because I'm bored, I am going to flick through some of the items listed and cooment on them anyway. Semi serious I suppose. I'm not sure at this time of night/day.

stupd/ignerent/*2 dum 2 c the obvius...that r + hr blong 2gether: I've never really felt compelled to prove my intelligence, I like to hope whatever intelligence I have is apparent. But I don't think a persons intelligence should be defined by their Ship. As for belonging together ... well, opinions and all that. Two people having opposing views doesn't mean one of them is stupid, it merely means the two people see things differently, perhaps even think in a different way to draw these conclusions.

ron hatas: *ponders* I don't know. I believe Ron has been a prat on occasion, but hate? That's a strong word. He's not my favourite, but I don't hate him. At best I'm indifferent to him, which in a way is worse than hating him. The only character in HP I hate is Bellatrix. But I stray off-topic. The only thing that makes Ron important to me at all is that he's important to Harry. Shippy Side: But not like Hermione!

slut!ginny luvrs: Really? Nope, don't do this either.

draco luvrs: I don't really understand what this has to do with anything ... oh do you mean the D/G thing? I'm afraid I'm not fussed by that either.

smut obsesd: Well, yeah. But that has nothing to do with my Ship. I like smut in all my fandoms. Even if I Shipped Goyle/Dobby, I'd still want my smut. Hmmm.... I should probably edit out that sentence...

obhwf hatas: Well again, hate is a strong word. Naturally I'm against it, as it doesn't allow for H/Hr, but I don't think it's a good idea either and I certainly don't see it happening. Not to mention the Ginny Potter thing. It's hard to hate something that doesn't exist.

not rite n da hed: This is for my Psychiatrist to determine. I'm still waiting for the results. *twiddles thumbs* Meanwhile you're probably right about me not being right in the head. But I feel that life is more interesting this way. I get to see giant bunnies everywhere and lots of other cool stuff. But possibly I have just seen Donnie Darko too many times.

Are sappy, since we love the idea that the hero gets the girl: Hey, when I'm not getting my smut, I'm all for sap! However like others here, I don't see H/Hr as Hero gets the Girl. I'd never downplay Hermione like that. People aren't prizes.

Obsessed with subtext that doesn't exist: You know, it's probably best I say nothing on this one...

Think JKR is a pathalogical liar: Nope. I think JKR is a wicked wicked woman. Wickedly clever that is. JKR -->

Elitist and contempuous of those we deem "dumb": I deem a lot of people dumb, for many different reasons. But not because of their Ship. However reasons for me deeming people dumb are off-topic here. As for looking down on stupid people? Well, that depends if they deserve it. This has to be determined on a case-by-case basis.

Ignore other ships entirely: I have to admit I have little interest in other Ships. They don't enthrall me the same way H/Hr does, even if I do believe they will happen in canon. But although I'm disinterested, I don't ignore the possibilities of other Ships.

Nielle, who would really like an emoticon with a cracked halo. I'll settle for this instead

Anazecria I just need to say: I love your icon. Keep flying.

No offece intended, but you guys are throwing in alot of R/Hr steryotypes into your posts. I am an R/Hr'er and I haven't used chatspeak like that ever, nor do I reveiw like that. Please let it be notted that I do NOT support stereotypes in any way, these are just things I've heard.
1) H/Hr shippers don't like Ron.
2) H/Hr's can't make their ship work unless they push Ron out of the picture by a: making him evil, b: making him go with someone else (Luna, Lavender, Cho, Mary Sue, Pansy, Draco, Hedwig... the list goes on) or c: killing him off.
3) H/Hr's are reading canon totally wrong or ignoring the interveiws.
4) H/Hr's think Ginny is a prostitute, whore, slut, scarlet woman, b*tch, or otherwise negitive term.

My replies to these:
1) So? I don't like Draco. That's my oppinion isn't it.
2) R/Hr's seem to have to shove Harry off too, I'm not going to say they're perfect. Usually Ginny gets him, though some times its anyone from Cho to Snape.
3) The books, like certain religious tomes, can be interpreted in many ways for romances. Besides that, J.K. Never says out right "Hermione will end up with so-and-so", just annoyingly alludes to the fourth book having the answer.
4) Now, I don't ship H/G, so does that mean I think Ginny is an (insert negitive term here)? I doubt it ...

Well, I've had my say. No offence intended, these are things I've read elsewhere. Personally, I can see things from your perspectives on some issues. You seem to think R/Hr'ers have some stereotypical features too (like the chatspeak stuff) and that's fine. I'll live. Have fun shipping.

i've read a non-h/hr shipper post from a site before that said everything about harry and hermione is wishful thinking. but, of course, i totally disagree. the symbolism, the deep friendship between the two, that's brilliant thinking, ain't it?

Another big stereotype is "Their only H/Hr's 'cause they think 'Awwwww!!! Harry and Hermione would be cute together!" That is not our only reason. I fact, I don't think that is a reason!

MOD NOTE:

Editted for breach of Portkey's "Quoting/Discussing/Reproducing" rule. These kind of posts walk a fine line at the best of times but referring to the sites you find these things is NOT allowed. -Quis

First off, I really don't bash on Ron. I admit that Ron is not one of my favorite characters, but I don't want him killed or turning evil on us.

We pumpkineers are not ignorant. Just because we read between the lines and not take normal route per say, does not make us ignorant. Choosing to ship H/Hr is like that Pochantas thing. You could either take the easy route, like R/Hr; or you can take the underdog river thing. Maybe that was a bad analogy. it sounded good in my head!

And about us H/Hr shippers being all smut obssessed...why would they think that?

Is it just me, or did anybody miss one of the biggest stereotype they have of us? (Well, in some of the forums anyway) That the ONLY reason we ship H/Hr is because Dan and Emma look so good together?

While I am sure there are some of us who do just that, but I think I'm speaking for almost everyone else in saying that most of us ship H/Hr for more/other reasons than that.

I really found this amusing for the reason that these people assume that we don't take the novels into consideration, when other people of their ship think that we put too much emphasis into (or just make up things from) the subtext of canon.

BWEH! All of these just stresses the importance of a lesson I learnt so long ago. Stereotypes, in ALL of its shapes and forms, are 99.9% false all the time.

After re-reading OOTP again,I feel that it is breaking Ron's heart that there will not be a double wedding for himself and Hermione and Harry and Ginny. Look how angry he got when his sister said she was dating one of his friends and roommates. Ron was livid to say the least. But what has been bothering me for awhile now (and I could be wrong here) but, I've been wondering if Hermione is related to a major character and that has yet to be revealved. I know the Star Wars angle has been used when Luke and Leia found out they were siblings,so I've got a sinking feeling that one of the guys is either her cousin. Look at the Chapter entitled "The Most noble and ancient house of Black" in OOTP. Sirius is showing Harry his family tree and to harry's surprise as to who his godfather's family members are. So I'm wondering if JKR is going to throw us something completly from left field that we wouldn't see coming for a million years and destroy the whole who's going to end up with whom at the end of the series. I'll say this I'll be angry,but I won't be surprised.

Polaris15

Personally I can't stand them together.

I don't ship H/Hr because of the movie actors. They don't look like the Harry and company in my imagination. I'm more influenced by Mary GrandPre's illustrations.

i ship D/E in a way but i guess like Kalie said it was slightly influenced by the fact that I ship H/HR....

I for one don't ship Dan/Emma either, though I guess Emma does influence my imagination when it comes to Hermione. Just admit it, Emma is a pretty girl.
Though Harry... he's just adorable. Which is why he's so good with Hermione.
And no! Hermione does not remind me of myself!

I admit-- Emma is a pretty girl--. but Dan Radcliffe does not fit in with my Harry... I think his hair should be more messed up and he should have greener eyes *sighs*... I like how my mind portrays Harry and Hermione I hate stereotypes-- they never give a full and correct description (?) of any shipper, since all shippers are different and view things differently...

MOD NOTE

Getting a little Off Topic here people. It's fine if you want to talk about the stereotypes us H/Hr shippers sometimes get stuck with, especially since you lot are doing it without bashin anyone. Do try to avoid discussing the actors and your thoughts on them together or not, there's another thread for that.

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You'll also find the links in any Moderators signature. Thanks.

-Quis

The biggest stereotypes I've come across are:

1) You hate Ron. You want him to join Voldemort. You want him to die.
Not true. I love Ron to bits! I just don't want him near Hermione in any romantic way.

2) You hate Ginny.
Okay, so this might have some truth. As much as I dislike her, I don't go around bashing her though. I'm too mature for that.

3) Your brain has been addled by fan fiction.
Nope, I don't believe that H/Hr will happen because of fan fiction. I can differentiate between fanon and canon, thank you very much.

4) You read too much between the lines. Seriously, you have no basis for your beliefs.
I have basis. I just actually pay attention to all the subtle clues. There are plenty of subtle clues and they're there for a reason.

5) You disregard everything that JKR has said.
Not at all. JKR's statements are quite ambiguous if you ask me. And she has never flat out said that a certain ship will or will not happen.

6) You are stupid. It's so obvious R/Hr is going to happen.
Right. Because JKR always goes with the obvious.

7) You are delusional.
Maybe. But if I am, so are you. And in a way, ALL shippers can be delusional.

8) You like to read smut.
And your point? So what? That's my deal and it's not that big of a one.

9) You think Dan and Emma are cute together.
Yes, I think they can be cute. However, that has no influence whatsoever on my reasons for being a H/Hr shipper. I know Dan and Emma are not really Harry and Hermione.

There are plenty of other stereotypes that I'm too lazy to write about. But they're all just as ignorant as these.

The biggest steriotypes of us, it seems to me, is that we are stupid, hate the Weasleys and especially Ron, don't know what attraction is, and hate JK and ignore her.

If I might add, I believe the ***

MOD NOTE:

Post has been deleted due to being completly off topic and blatantly bashing R/Hr's as a whole. That's 2 strikes for this thread so far..

-Quis

At around 100 posts, it's time to close this thread!