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Hi everyone! I'm kind of new here so bare with me, please.
Now, concluding from what I've read in the books, what I've read on the internet, what JKR has said, and my personal experience, this is what I have come up with.
No matter which way you look at it, Harry/Hermione is most probable. Let me break it down for you.
1. a literacy standpoint,
2. character standpoint, and
3. real life standpoint

From a literacy point:
Like someone has said before, Hermione is the biggest, most important girl in Harry's life. We know the most about her. There's only 2 books left and its impossible for even a great author like JKR to get us to know another girl as well as Hermione. Also to make us love them like we do Hermione. Hermione has always/will always be the most important girl in Harry's life. Even if he goes out with Ginny or Luna, Hermione will still be more important to him, he proved that in OOtP putting Hermione even before Cho.

Character Point
No offense, I like Ron as much as the next guy, but I think he's a little bit too jerky for Hermione. In a way, she really is too good for him. You can tell he likes Hermione, and Hermione is smart enough to take the hints. I bet she realizes that he likes her. But she has not shown any signs of liking him back. He's just not sensitive enough. He will have to wise up a lot for Hermione like him in that way. I mean look at it this way: Ron treats Hermione rudely. That's his way of showing he likes her. But that might not be good enough. I'm really not trying to bash R/H, but it's true. Girls, you know what I'm saying. There's always been that annoying kid in your life that has put gum in your hair or something. Would you ever like him? Not really, he's too insensitive. That's why Hermione needs Harry and visa versa. They know and care about each other far past any platronic relationship. Hermione really needs a guy like Harry because she's not the kind of person that would care much about having a boyfriend. She would have a serious relationship. That's also why Harry needs Hermione. She will always listen to his problems and help in the best way that she can.

Real Life Point
Everyone says that Ron and Hermione definitely like each other because they are nervous about getting near each other. Well that's not entirely true. See, I like this one guy a lot (he really reminds me of Harry) and he's one of my really good friends. I have no problem hugging him, or dancing with him, even though I'm not sure if he likes me back or not. The reason he reminds me of Harry is their personalities. If Hermione likes Harry and let's say Ginny asks him out for her, even if Harry doesn't like Hermione in that way, he would never in a million years tell her that because she's too important to him and he would never want to see her hurt. That's exactly the way my friend is. Harry and Hermione may not be Prom King and Queen, but they are definitely soul mates. And that's pretty good for me.

Well thank you for reading my first post on Portkey! Please tell me what you think!

P.S. And for the record, according to my name calculations 'Harry Potter' and 'Hermione Granger' are 116% likely to happen

Yes, most of the same arguments I use...I must agree. The fact is, Harry is famous. And let's face it, he's about to become even MORE famous! And there is only one girl who he can always count on to love him for WHO HE REALLY IS, not the boy-who-lived or otherwise. Even Ginny had a crush on Harry before she even knew him...why?? Because she only knew the boy-who-lived through stories. She'd never actually met him, except at Platform 9 3/4 before Harry's first year...and what? They said hi? Right....

Our Hermione Jane seems like the only person who could ever pull Harry out of his depressive funk. And let's face it, there's bound to be a lot more depression to come in the next book. (Can anyone say 'Godfather?' or 'Prophecy?') Why? Well, we already have had a glimpse of Lily and we've seen the similarities, right? And we all saw what a punk James was, right? Hmm....are any lightbulbs turning on out there?

All in all, Hermione was a bit too helpful when it came to Cho Chang. Always knew where Cho was, what she was doing... Also, she always overeacted when Ron would interfere with Harry/Cho time. Being a girl, I'll say this: when a girl likes a guy, but as far as that guy knows it's just friends, the girl will do everything in her power to be the best friend she can...even if that means making him happy by being with another girl. I mean, we're talking seriousness here people, not a crush. And if we know Hermione, she never goes at something half-assed...and she takes everything seriously...

I've written way too much. I guess I got carried away...

-Casey

Yea! That's exactly what I was trying to get at. But I'm not that good at getting exactly what I feel in writing. Stores, yes. Thoeries, no. Anyway, I also think that a reason why Hermione was acting that way was because she knew that it wasn't going to work out like:



Hermione is a very smart person. I mean A.) He was back early B.) Cho wasn't with him C.) He wasn't in the best of moods. So Hermione knew it prabably went bad. After that first date, she figured it wouldn't work out and her whole aspect on the situation was different, she was much calmer.

As of Ginny, you are completely right. Once she got to know him she didn' t fancy him anymore. I think that's what JKR has to do with Ron too. She has to have Hermione go on a date with him to really end it--because we are already pretty sure that H/C and H/G won't happen. See what I'm saying? Like I said before I'm bad at getting my point across very clearly.

Thanks for replying, hope to see you around! Welcome to PK!

- always
Amanda

I absolutley agree with you. Harry and Hermione are the only logical choice. I have probably said this a hundred times now and i'm going to say it again
Jkr is writing a story about Harry's life at Hogwarts right? We know that we see everything from Harry's view and we know that any thing main will happen to him.
So the only possible relationship is Harry and hermione because it is Harry potter and the philosephers stone, not Ron weasly and the philosephers stone. There is also the fact that many of us h/hr shippers also ship r/lu and g/n but they most likely aren't going to happen. JKR isn't making a matchmaking love fest she is writing a type of adventure mystery book about harry's life.

Even though I agree with you, there's a lot more that can be said about that. From a literary standpoint, you have to also consider all of the times that JKR could've written a scene differently (DoM, to name one example), that would've excluded Hermione and would've had the same outcome.

But outside of that, I agree totally. There's nothing that I can say that hasn't been said already.

- Mark

P.S. Amanda, you're not bad at getting your points across. I understand exactly what you're trying to say.

Thank you people! I'm glad you understand what I'm saying! But:



So does that mean that without Hermione in some of the sences, it would've ended the same? Sorry, I'm really tired and aren't comprehending things correctly...But if Hermione wasn't in the DoM, Harry wouldn't've realized the shock it would be if he lost her (which is good, because then he might realize his love for her ) But sorry if that's not what you mean.

Another thing I want to add is that the books are all in Harry's point of view. We read what he is thinking. For example, when the book is decribing what Hermione is doing, it means Harry is staring at her. Or when he was "unresistedly reminded of Mrs. Weasley rounding on her husband"...Things like that are only what he is thinking not of what actually happened. See what I'm saying? Another example could be that Hermione is prabably giving signs that she likes him all the time and he either isn't paying attention or is thinking of it wrongly. I know from experience that people seem to see the world a lot differently than how it really is.

Well, that's it for tonight. Thanks for letting me hear your thoughts!

always
-Amanda

heh, absolutely agree with you.

Anyway who can become Harry's girlfriend and Hermione's boyfriend without being burned to ash by jealousy. Can you tolerate that most of your girlfriend talk about in a date is her best male friend, or that your boyfriend will run to his best female friend whenever she ask or she is in need? (Why it remind me the story of those soap opera??)

JKR already showed us the answer.

The outcome would've been the same. What I mean is if Hermione hadn't been with him, she might've been hit with the same curse, still been almost killed, but Harry would've never seen it, and therefore, we wouldn't know his reaction. I wasn't saying if she wasn't in the DoM, but if, for example, she went with Ron's group instead of going with Harry, the same thing could've happened, yet Harry's reaction wouldn't've been included. I know I wasn't the clearest on what I was saying, I was trying to get the point across in as few words as possible.



LOL. And since we know that JKR isn't writing a soap opera, then how would anything else make any sense?

- Mark

My point exactly,No matter if a new girl was introduced into Harry's life,she will never be as important to him as Hermione.And vice versa with Hermione,but lets face it,she hasnt shown any interest in any boys,something is always far more important.

Take Lockhart,she admired him for his bravery for the things he said he did (even though this turned out to be proven false),but sorting out the mess at school,more importantly sorting out Harry's life,was at the top of her list.

And as for Krum i think we'd all agree that HE liked HER,but then after the second task,she had stil shown NO love interest towards him.

I conclude that by the impossible luck that H/hr didnt happen,they would still be each others rock,or "Soul mates".

Ok, I get it now Mark Interesting topic by the way...

Yea Intertex (I get jealous too easy) that happens to me way too much...Like some people break up with their boyfriends because they hate that he would put another girl before her that is just his best friend. Like no one believes anymore that you can be best friends with the opposite sex without falling in love at one point. Me, personally, I don't know. I trust myself about not going our with a guyfriend while I have a boyfriend, but you can't trust everybody. What I think is going on with H/H. They are around eachother so often that it's turning into love. And everything is a soap opera now!lol

Moogle, I thought about what you said and you're completely right A lot of people I know that ship h/h agree with r/l g/n (or g/d) but don't really care if it happens or not because it's Harry's story. I personally couldn't care less if Ginny fell in love with Neville because of that, you know? Like who really cares if your friends cousin is in love with your nieghbor? It's not directly your buisiness.

Garlic Bread?: you reminded me of something else I wanted to add. Like not only do H/H put eachother before everyone else in the world, but Hermione would to anything, anything for Harry (and visa versa) whether it means putting themselves in mortal danger, or breaking all the school rules, Hermione's already proven she'd do that in a heartbeat for Harry. That is love. Not kissing, but looking out for and trusting the other.

Thanks again all you for reading and replying! I feel so loved!

always
-Amanda

Adding to all the reasons you pointed out very well, it's just that chemistry they have together. IMO they're made for each other. It just makes you wonder how in Merlin's good sake there are people who don't see that Harry and Hermione are the two halves of the whole. (Not that I'm despising different opinions about the ships, but for me it makes sense... My apologies if I offended anyone, it was not the purpose of it)

Of course, only JKR knows their future, and she is very tricky but I think even she would have a very hard time justifying a different pairing to make sense.

Just my $ 0.02

I just dont see how the leading female role model for girls/women across the globe would want to be with someone who treats her badly and ruins the ONE night she made an effort to look prettier,what message is JK saying there "The boy that accuses you of fraternising with the enemy,or perhaps,the boy that likes to put you down,is the boy who you are destined to be with,because ANGRY TENSION due to arguing is the root to a long relationship?" somehow i dont think so.

Hopefully JK's message would be a bit more realistic,it should include "always being there for one another" and "will do anything/everything for the other person","will not take personal vendetta's","COMPROMISE AND TRUSTING",which only on one occasion,has hermione and ron,compromised,that was in POA,they forget their argument in light of Harry's misery (as he cant go to Hogsmeade).

Yes Eristoff-icE, you are completely right! But that's just all the shippers in the world's opinion. LOL Some people who shall remain nameless think that H/H don't have much chemistry at all, but to me that is entirely not true.

Garlic Bread?(can I call you Tanya? It's easier to type) Anyways, what you said is exactly what a good, strong, long-lasting relationship needs. And what it especially doesn't need is that you can put someone down when they've tried so hard to look nice.

Well, that's all I can think of right now.
ya'll always
-Amanda

Hahahaha, OMG...I think I heard a collective SIGH passing throughout all of the H/Hr shippers across the globe, "Thank you!" Completely right on target with that one. The fact of the matter is: Hermione is Ron's first CRUSH. Cho WAS Harry's first CRUSH. (Okay, let's move on now JKR!) It's completely understandable that Ron would be interested in Hermione. She's the only girl he's ever really known besides Ginny...who obviously doesn't count. So, naturally, he's going to react to her in a clumsy, rude sort of manner because he's a boy with a crush. But I think he'll grow out of it. Just like Harry grew out of Cho. (Not that I'm IN ANY WAY comparing our Herms to....her...*shudders*...cho...)

I'm just saying that I think all boys have to get thru that first crush.

Okay...I completely forgot what I was writing about...eh, oh well...

Yeah it is also kind of stupid if r/hr does happen because then jkr is potryaing to girls, "yes like the guy who is always mean to you, laughs at what you pride yourself in the most and gives you no personal space" sure i don't see it happening, better to like the guy who cares for you, respects you and will always be there to support you.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was getting at before. JKR cant do that to us! lol

always
-Amanda

Quoted from: ©2003 Penny Linsenmayer - Partners and Friends

Note: I place enormous faith in this essay... It's quite nice...



I agree... How lame would it be... I think if it was R/Hr (which is impossible unless Ron stops being an "insensitive wart" as quoted by Hermione and even then it's highly unlikely...), they'd break up the day after...

Welcome to PK, misspsychopath! lol that sounds funny That quote is very true, and I'm going to read that essay as soon as I can. I love reading essays but I have to get off in a couple mins so i wont have time to read all of it. And yeah R/H shippers are right. I'm sure R/H will get together for a couple of days, so JKR can squash that ship, you know, get it over with. I'm sorry to R/Hr shippers, but it is true...they are always saying how stupid we are to not see whats right in fron of us, but they shouldnt be saying that when we've never done anything to them and thats...just rude. I really try not to bash R/H if I can help it. Well I got to go.

always
-Amanda

brokenheartz,sure you can me Tanya
yeah sometime you cant help but bash the other ship,as you try to defend H.M.S harmony,then you do you get slaughtered for it.BUT,then if you dont show support and you dont give evidence,or certain quotes,then you again get punished from the other ship,sometimes you cant win...so i gave up a long time ago on trying to debate with them,i stick to putting my energies into this ship.

Like JK said "Harry needs Hermione badly",awww,nowhere in any interview has she said that Ron needs her or she needs him.Makes you wonder why she is telling us that,maybe she wants us to try and work out,what ways Harry needs her.I.E-Comfort,someone to talk to,someone to lean on...possibly even more.

Harry and Hermione make just as much sense (If not more, for the fact that they are best friends) as Lily and James. I mean, who else would fit the role as Harry's sole mate? Certainly not anyone else, nobody else is as trusted -- and its to late to bring somebody that important in.
And as for ron / hermione. That's.. just not how its supposed to be. That wouldn't be any good, unless ron shaped up a lot -- Hermione is to good for him, and he is rather unsensitive at times. But, no matter who ends up with Hermione (Which will be Harry, if anyone, in my opinion) ron does need to learn how to have a crush on somebody without being a jerk.

Harry and Hermione complete each other. What one of them lacks, the other compensates and vice-versa. I think that is one of the most important things about them and yet another reason for them to get together. Harry and Hermione are almost like lock and key.

As for Ron and Herms... they don't complete each other, IMO. They don't fit into one another, they clash. Some call it Unresolved Sexual Tension, I see two very different personalities that just don't work together for a very long time...

And if Ron and Hermione did happen (even if for just a couple of minutes) it would ruin most of the magic in it for me... Like Rottenriku said, it's not the way it's supposed to be! How much more beautiful does it get than love at first sight? (Never mind Krum) It's just... very awkward to fall for one of your best friends and then realizing that the one you're head over heels for is your other best friend... It's not how it works, IMO... It's like she'd love Harry only because things with Ron just didn't sort out well... Sorry, it's just the way it seems to me... No one likes coming second best, do they?

Anyway, JKR is almighty and wise... hopefully both at the same time

Eristoff-icE wrote:
As for Ron and Herms... they don't complete each other, IMO. They don't fit into one another, they clash. Some call it Unresolved Sexual Tension, I see two very different personalities that just don't work together for a very long time...



Unresolved Sexual Tension, my foot! Those two just rub each other the wrong way some times. True, H/Hr do as well, but they are seemingly better able to communicate with each other than R/Hr. And I personally uphold a belief that communication is key to a successful relationship.

The bickering and disgusted looks some times exchanged b/tw R/Hr just doesn't gel with me as a basis of a lasting, successful relationship. The fights H/Hr have had are much more, well.....eloquent??...maybe that's not the right word here....but they communicate with each other on a far more mature level than any of the younger characters in the books. I have yet to see that type of thing where R/Hr is concerned and JKR doesn't seemed inclined to build that up for us, the readers (at least yet).

At this point, a R/Hr relationship would just be anti-climactic and disappointing in a literary sense, given the effort and time-on-page JKR has seemingly put into H/Hr.

Pyg
--proud convert, anxiously sailing on the HMS Pumpkin Pie!!

I've also been thinking a lot about a JKR quote about how Harry will fall for someone who's been there "from the beginning".....is that correct?

Anyway, I like to take that as Hermione because not only was she there from Book 1, she was there, albeit indirectly, as part of the discarded idea for the start of the series -- her father was to be the one to see the fire on the Potter's island after LV's attack and row out there. So, in that way, Herm's been there from the beginning of even the planning process in JKR's mind!

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that the "little bit of romance" for Harry in HBP will be linked with Hermione. I can't figure that it would be anyone else and still keep the storyline moving forward at the current rate.

Just my $0.02.....

Pyg

Pygmie73, you jumped ships? I'm glad you're sailing with us now! And yes, you need to be abvle to communicate and trust eachother to have a really strong relationship.
Eristoff_icE: I agree, with their personalities, its like trying to fit a square into a circle (thats actually a really good analogy too). Now matter what you do, it wont work, unless you change one of them which isnt good because you dont want to change yourself for anybody.
Rottenriku What you said really reminded me of another theory. Lily was the older sister right? And she went to Hogwarts and her sister didnt, right? Well in an interview with JKR said that she originally planned to have Hermione have a younger sister that didnt go to Hogwarts but it was too late to introduce her now. She prabably cut it out because then H/H would be way too obvious. (Well more obisous than it already is). In SS when Petuniasaid "My sister was a freak...she met that Potter. Wouldnt that be something a jealous sister of HERMIONE would say too?
Tanya: Yep! Harry needs Hermione the most which is why in HBP Harry is going to only tell Hermione about the prophecy and everything will be good!^_^

Well thats all i have to say right now

always
-Amanda

I've also heard that one about Harry ending up with someone from the very beggining. For us it's got Hermione written all over it, but for others it's Ginny... Sure, Ginny's been there since the beggining, but she just really entered the story in CoS. And, quite frankly, how could she beat Hermione in what concerns Harry? Just good looks, but I don't think it's enough........

I didn't mean to bash Ginny or anything, but Hermione's a stronger character and much more connected with Harry than Ginny is.

I agree about Ginny vs. Hermione. It just wouldn't make as much sense on a storytelling basis. Why build up H/Hr interaction in the books if there is no planned significance for it? They are together, working wonderfully in tandem, far too much (and that's not a complaint!) for them to not continue growing in their relationship with one another.

I'm sticking with my anti-climactivity argument until JKR either blows it out of the water or dishes us up some squeelicious pumpkin pie in HBP or Book 7.

Pyg

I'm sorry for off topic, but where does it actually say that Ginny is so *** good looking? Especially in comparison with Hermione? Especially since Ginny was at the Yule Ball and Harry didn't even have one comment about her apearence. He talked about Pansy and Malfoy's apearence for god's sake, but not Ginny, I wonder why if she is supposed to be this beauty...

Ah, touche!...

Well, maybe it's the general idea almost everyone has of her, a pretty red-head girl... maybe I'm reading too much fan-fiction...

But I didn't mean Ginny actually had the good looks Hermione lacks. I was just saying that perhaps the only thing Harry could see Ginny in a better light than Hermione would be Ginny's supposedly better looks (we've never heard anyone talk about Ginny being ugly, yet Hermione gets that constantly - unfairly IMO - and besides, Ginny's had some boyfriends over the years...)

But maybe it's just too much fan-fiction..........

Yeah. fandom can play a number of tricks on people. Like Harry has emerald eyes. It is a popular idea, but not once in the books are his eyes described as such.



I have to agree, just too much fan-fiction. Plus, just because Ginny has boyfriends, doesn't mean she is that pretty. She settled for Neville in GOF because she couldn't attract the boy she wanted (Harry). Plus, Hermione managed to attract an international Quidditch star who had a whole horde of girls after him. Kind of speaks of the fact that she is not unattractive. Plus, the only people who call her ugly are Skeeter and Pansy, can't really take their words for it. We didn't hear them making remarks about Ginny because Harry never spends enough time with Ginny to hear, or bother to notice.

I'm not arguing really, just pointing things out.

Not to mention Ginny bares a striking resemblence to the Twins who are described as stocky. Not exactly a positive thing to say about Ginny's appearance from Harry and is the only thing said about her appearance except for her "long main of flaming red hair" although since he has described all the other Weasleys with "flaming red hair" that's not exactly saying much.

jatkinson.

Let’s not forget that at one point Harry saw some resemblance of the twins on Ginny (think was her jaw or some part of her face), so I guess that would not be that flattering for Ginny to look like her brothers.

Hermione is the only female best friend that Harry has, this is enough of a reason for Pansy and her gang to call her ugly, plus Harry told her that she wasn't ugly and his jaw dropped when Harry saw her at the Yule Ball...

Hee hee, great minds think alike. I just posted the exact same argument in reply to that.

Trying not to make this a one liner...

jatkinson.

Thank you Jamie.

Stocky: "broad and strong-looking: having a broad strong-looking physique, and usually short in stature [Early 17th century. The underlying idea is “having the form of a tree stump or lump of wood.”] Encarta-dictionary. Yeah, I'll take buckteeth anyday of the week.

AllyRose

Wow! All of the sudden everyoone's talking about Ginny!

AllyRose Potter, I would take buck teeth too, its good for guys to be stocky but not a teenage girl. Fandom really plays tricks on your mind. the other day i was talking to my cousin and told him about a clue for H/Hr then i remembered it wasnt even in the books that it was a fanfiction that had that, so yea...

jatkinson: You're right and i dont like posting one-liners either. Another thing that can mess with your head is the movies. I was mad because when i saw them, it messed with the pictures i had had in my head, and now whenever i read the books I can only see a pic of Emma Watson or Dan Radcliffe's face. Does that happen to anyone else?

pattysanti: I was thinking about that too and Harry didnt mention Ginny the whole entire night. (the Yule Ball) I mean seriously, Hermione is prabably a really pretty girl but doesnt care to put on makeup and do her hair. Its just not her and she even said so.

Eristoff_icE: About your first post about 'the beginning' youre really right. and another thing you might notice in GOF chapter 'The beginning' Hermione's name was before Rons. Its usually "Ron and Hermione...." but at the beginning of that chapter its "Hermione and Ron...." Also, at the end of GoF Hermione gives Harry a little kiss. And after that he didnt want to worry about anything so i'm assuming he liked it.

Talk to you later ppls!

always
-Amanda

It's the same with me. I imagine both their appearance and voices when I read the books, particularly since I saw the PS and COS movies before I read the books.

Yeah, that happens to me as well... I wonder how Umbridge will look like, being as ugly as a giant toad...

Sorry about keeping on about this Ginny thing, but I think I didn't quite make my point yet... I know it's off-topic, but bare with me for a sec, OK?

I didn't say Ginny was pretty or anything, I just have that impression from all the fan-fiction I've been reading lately... Well, the fact that I think she's pretty in the movies also has a part in this...

What I really meant was, probably the only thing Ginny could beat Hermione would be in looks, and even that is most unlikely - you've all shown pretty much evidence that Hermione can be better looking than the youngest Weasley.

Intelligence? Hermione hands down
Wit? Hermione
Personality? Hermione

Hermione beats Ginny in almost everything! Well, they're two very different people. Ginny is more like her twin brothers - relaxed, wants to have fun, kind of a little rebel - and Hermione is a more responsible and caring person.

Well, point being Hermione beats Ginny in practically everything that concerns Harry. The only thing still questionable is a comparison between both girls' looks in Harry's POV. Now that he's no longer interested in having Cho, and the girls are already quite grown up, maybe we will get a peek at what he really thinks who's the prettier... THe answer is most probably Hermione, but we just can't be sure of that...

Anyway, things are looking good for our side

I'm sorry to keep at it as well, but we have seen what Harry thinks of Hermione's looks, in GOF that she is pretty that his eyes land on her twice before he realizes that it is Hermione and in OOTP with the "but I don't think you're ugly". Those two combined shows that Harry has had some thoughts on Hermione's looks and she definitely came out in a good light. Because we have no such thoughts on Ginny, its still up in the air and until I actually see Harry thinking anything on Ginny issue, I will maintain that Harry thinks that Hermione is prettier.


I saw the movies first too and when I read the first two books, I had Dan's and Emma's images in my head, however with the release of POA movie and the other books, I just can't bring myself to picture those two as Harry and Hermione, Ron, yes, but not Harry and Hermione. The images that I have now is from Gwendy's drawings, from Quills and Spills website. Gwendy is simply amazing.

I think that Ginny has some very nice qualities, but those are not the qualities that Harry needs in his life.

AllyRose

Yeah i hear their voices too, its really weird...Especially when i listen to Jim Dale reading the books aloud. Yes, sometimes i'm too lazy to actually read them (well alot of the time... ) But about Ginny, he prabably has never really thought of her romantically, you know what I'm saying? Because what i always say is look at it as if you were in his position. Would you really ever fall for your best friends' younger sibling? I have a lot of friends with little brothers and i've never really thought of them as a boyfriend. I mean I am really suprised that the Trio has stayed just friends for this long. Havent you ever liked your best guy friend, just a little? Well its gonna happen sooner of later to Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Whether it's longlasting, i cant say, but it most likey will happen to two of them at one point. I mean being together all that time, dont you think that a few certain feelings would bubble up to the surface? Thats just my opinion.

Oh, Hi AllyRose! I didnt see you. But serously. If you didnt see the movies and didnt look at the CoS cover, you would have no idea what Ginny looked like personally and Harrys opinion of her. Whenever she's described, its like the twins or Ron--and that doesnt give you a big train of thought. Thats just what i think. In PoA they are all different and not the perfect match to the better ways that theyve looked as the characters (sorry ). The chapter pics are a little distracting too IMO.

Well I have to go. TTYL!

always
-Amanda

Look, Ginny's a cute little girl all right, (and I love her for being like Fred and George), but I don't think she's just right for the boy who lived, at least compared to Hermione.
Hermione is smarter, deeper, more experienced, and more capable....

Let's just hope Harry sees this and does something about it!

Overall, Hermione is the perfect girl for Harry and he's the perfect guy for her.

Alas, we come to the conclusion: they're perfect for each other!

(as if anyone here didn't know that... lol)

Tee Hee, I was reading that again yesterday, and lookie:



I didn't copy down the entire paragraph, i'm too lazy, but the paragraph before, where Hary describes Hermione, is full of emotive sentences, and Harry seems to be unconsciously listing all the things he's noticing about her, like you would do if you were describing something you were enthusiastic about. And in that paragraph quoted, it's obvious too. He's registering all the reactions from people towards Hermione, to emphasise the point that she looked so pretty. And my favourite part of the paragraph:



He's saying it like it should have been obvious to him, and it's obvious now, and it's not like he vaguely wondered why he hadn't noticed it before, he really couldn't understand it, it baffles him.

Also, in the same paragraph:



Now you would think, that if he was looking out for Hermione, he would know that she'd have dolled herself up, and she'd be looking a little different, but you would think that he'd have recognised her, everyone else in the room obviously does. Even if he didn't, he was walking with Harry and Parvati at the time, and Harry stopped to let his jaw drop to the floor, Parvati was gazing at her too. Surely, he'd know who Harry was looking at? But he just walks straight past her. He doesn't stop and stare, or smile. He just walks past. How come Hermione doesn't have the same effect on Ron? Even if he was angry at her for going with Krum, I don't really think that would have stopped him from having the same reaction as Harry if he felt that strongly.

Also, even in the possibility that he didn't realise who she was then, even when he did know who she was, and was glaring at her dancing with Krum, he didn't even take in her appearance then.

Lol, sorry for the long post. But I should be doing A-level English Essays and this is far more interesting.

True, very true. But then, Ron's sometimes portrayed as being almost ridiculously clueless at times...


A delinquent! Cool! lol Glad you're posting. Good points above.


Pyg

I always thought it was pretty hilarious that Ron didn’t notice Hermione. I think that proved that she looked quite different from her usual self (obviously in a good way, judging by everyone’s reaction ). I don’t think Ron not noticing her meant much about his feelings for her, just that she looked very different. We never really get to see Ron’s initial reaction about her looks anyways, but I bet its safe to say that he, like everyone else, was surprised at how well Hermione cleans up .
-McGill
P.S. Anyone see the new pics from GoF of Hermione/Emma at the Yule Ball. She looks so cute!

There are some links to new pictures in the Movie Discussion thread ("General Discussion/Movie Discussion/HP4...").

Pyg

Mod Note: Edited to add link to thread. A reminder, all movie talk to go in the movie threads. WonkyKris

Pyg-Yea i saw but lets not get into the movies like WonkyKris said and i'm too lazy to start a thread there. lol But wasnt Hermiones robes supposed to be periwinkle?
McGillLilNancy and Epona-i think that Ron was just really mad and did that on purpose. He was mad so he ignored her. i dunno i dont think like ron.
Eristoff_icE-Yes H/Hr is perfect harmony!
Armwild: Yes Hermione is much better ^.^ hehe...

Well talk to you ppl later

always
-Amanda

Great post, I agree with you in all your points !
Hermione and Harry are true soulmates and meant for each other !
...and Ron simply cannot keep up with Hermione!