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Kiru_Biru
My own post from "Your personal Top 10 Reason why H/Hr WILL happen"

QUOTE(Kiru_Biru @ Jan 31 2006, 01:23 PM) *

1. Because Hermione's patronus is an otter and Slughorn in HBP mispronounces Harry's name as Parry Otter.


Ok, ok. The following quote is from Ootp

QUOTE
The second man turned at the sound of their footsteps. He, too, broke off in mid-conversation, his cold grey eyes narrowed and fixed upon Harry's face.

'Well, well, well… Patronus Potter,' said Lucius Malfoy coolly.


You know, I'm wandering why Lucius Malfoy said Patronus Potter, because it is not really much of an insult. Well, even in the light of Harry's illegal usage Patronus, if you ask me. Later in this book we learn that Hermione has Patronus otter. Another coincidence? Gosh, Rowling's books are the most coincidential books ever. L.O.L. Nevermind...

EDIT. To those who doesn't know, herons refer an otter to Ron Weasley because an otter and a weasel are from the same family Mustelidae (no doubt about that). The deal is, they have very less in common: their ration, body structure and natural environment differ. They belong to different subfamilies (Lutrinae and Mustelinae respectively) So, if Rowling's original intention was to make such a connection, ferret would fit much better... ok, not a ferret - it's more about Malfoy (L.O.L. twice). Then what about a sable? No, no, why not making her patronus a weasel? All in all Rowling said she don't want to make a big secret of romances, right?
Xman
............God ###### it. People just post what you can with the pg numbers and blah. dry.gif
lunalumos
QUOTE
Don't forget the one where Harry has just arrived at the Burrow and Dumbledore's gone away, then Mrs Weasley tells him that Ron and Hermione will want to talk to him in the morning: "Hermione's here?" says Harry. He seems so excited that she's there and he'll get to see her.


I LOVE this. At the beginning of HBP, Hermione is the only girl on Harry's mind. He's defending her, praising her, and he's excited to see her. I just loved it! It seemed so H/Hr and then everything was seemingly switched up!

QUOTE(Kiru_Biru @ Feb 24 2006, 03:26 PM) *
Ok, Ron tried to run for Hermione and failed reaching the sixth step. What's that, a clue? 6 steps stands for the first 6 books, and 7th is a failure? huh.gif This scene also drawed my attention, because it's 6 steps, not 7 as Jo likes to put this number everywhere.



That's incredibly interesting!
Do you have any other catches?

QUOTE
Anyway, did anyone mention Hermione wanting the boys to go with her to visit Hagrid after Quidditch tryouts. Ron did not go, but Harry did even though he was hungry and tired. He even used his wand to open the door.

How about when Harry told Dobby to rest after following Malfoy because Harry knew how Hermione would feel about how the elves were treated.Anyway, did anyone mention Hermione wanting the boys to go with her to visit Hagrid after Quidditch tryouts. Ron did not go, but Harry did even though he was hungry and tired. He even used his wand to open the door.

How about when Harry told Dobby to rest after following Malfoy because Harry knew how Hermione would feel about how the elves were treated.


LOVE those moments!
Can you please tell me around where I can find them? Thanks. smile.gif
Fire
MOD NOTE: merged w/ similar topics.

So I think it would be fun if we listed down Harry/Hermione moments I just love reading over H/Hr moments it makes me feel giddy and why I love them so much. But I do have a request blush.gif Could you guys provide the quote? I just think it's nice to see them to read it over. If you can't don't worry I'll hunt it down!

Here's an Example I have already a couple of them!

Book: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone
Chapter: The Journey From Platform Nine And Three Quarters: Pg 79
Quote:
'Harry Potter', said Harry.
'Are you really?' said Hermione. 'I know all about you, of course - I got a few extra books for background reading, and you're in Modern Magical
History
and The Ride and Fall of the Dark Arts and Great Wizarding Events of the Twentieth Century
'Am I?' said Harry, feeling dazed.

Comments: I thought that this scene was totally adorable! wub.gif I have no idea why but I loved the fact that Hermione was the only one (other than Hagrid) who wasn't going ga-ga over the poor boy! And she memorized all the books he's in. A tad obvious aren't we Hermione? *winks*
Person..??: Hermione---->Harry

So:
Book:
Chapter:
Quote:
Comments:
Person...??:

So if you could folllow that format it'd be great! But like I said it's ok if you can't find it I'll try and hunt it down just describe the moment and which book it was in. Though it might take a while as I don't have books 3,4,5 *dodges rotten tomatoes* I know I know long story short my books got left behind in boxes on the other side of the world! Stupid packers mad2.gif But I'll try to get my dad to drive me to the library! Promise! And could we just start with book 1 and build our way up? blush.gif So it would be like slightly organized...? *chuckles nervously* Yeah soo... I can also compile all of them in one post let's say if we finish one book if you guys want...*chuckles nervously and tugs on hair* Yup...Sooo ok tell me if my idea sucks or not and if you'd be remotely interested whistling.gif If you are post a moment if you'd like too *chuckless nervously*

Ok here are my moments:
Book: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone
Chapter: The Sorting Hat Pg 87
Quote:
He heard Hermione whisper, 'It's bewitched to look like the sky outside, I read about it in Hogwarts: A History'.

Comments:Ahhh already listening to Hermione whisper Harry? Tut tut tut tut! tongue.gif
Person: Harry---->Hermione

Book: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone P
Chapter: The Potions Master Pg 103
Quote:
Snape was still ignoring Hermione's quivering hand.
'What is the difference, Potter, between monkshood and wolfsbane?'
At this, Hermione stood up, her hand stretching towards the dungeon ceiling.
'I don't know,' said Harry quietly. 'I think Hermione does, though, why don't you try her?'
A few people laughed;

Comments: I know at first it seems anti-H/Hr but to me it's a sort of fore-shadowing. We know Hermione sticks by Harry and defends him right? Well here's where my delusional mind comes in: Harry's hesitating and she knows he doesn't know the answer and at the last question she stands up hoping he'd pick her which inadvartently leads to Harry being saved. And he says that 'quietly' he never ment to be mean!
Person...??: Both


Book: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone Brit Edition
Chapter: The Midnight Duel pg 115
Quote:
'Excuse me.'
They both looked up. It was Hermione Granger.
'Can't a person eat in peace in this place?' said Ron
Hermione ignored him and spoke to Harry.
'I couldn't help overhearing what you and Malfoy were saying-'
'Bet you could,' Ron muttered.
'-and you mustn't go wandering around the school at night, think of the points you'll lose Gryffindor if you're caught, and you're bound to be. It's really very selfish of you.'
'And it's really none of your business,' said Harry.
'Goodbye,' said Ron.

Comments: I burst out laughing when I read this. To me it's just absolutely adorable! Hermione's already doing the focusing on Harry thing and ignoring Ron (anyone reminded of fanciable speech *snicker*) Age old habits start young Hermione...?Anyways sure she's worried about the points but I think she's also worried about Harry getting caught. You'll see the measures she does later on. Anyone else think they're adorable at age 11?
Person...??: Hermione----->Harry

Chapter: The Midnight Duel pg 115
Quote:
They had almost reached the portrait hole when a voice spoke from the chair nearest to them: 'I can't believe you're going to do this Harry.'
A lamp flickered on. It was Hermione Granger, wearing a pink dressing gown and a frown.
'You!' said Ron furiously. 'Go back to bed!'
'I almost told your brother,' Hermione snapped. 'Percy - he's a Prefect, he'd put a stop to this.'
Harry couldn't believe anyone could be so interfering.
'Come on,' he said to Ron. He pushed open the portrait of the Fat Lady and climbed through the hole.
Hermione wasn't going to give up that easily. She followed Ron through the portrait hole, hissing at them like an angry goose.
'Don't you care about Gryffindor, do you only care about yourselves, I don't want Slythering to win the House Cup and you'll lose all the points I got from Professor McGonagall for knowing about Switching Spells.'
'Go away.'
'All right, but I warned you, you just remember what I said when you're on the train home tomorrow, you're so-

Comments:laugh.gif I forgot how bossy Hermione was! Anyways I find these bolded parts interesting. She specifically says Harry not Ron or the two of you but Harry as if she can't believe he could do such a thing! I don't blame Harry for being annoyed but he doesn't snap at her or anything unlike Ron. I love the guy but he's like a brother you know those annoying ones not a life partner for Hermione. Now Luna that's another story... Now I think that she's just using the House Points as a cover up and she does care about them and Harry. And at the end you see my point she slips up and mentions that. And this is the first instance she's already breaking rules for Harry. :
Person: Hermione---->Harry

So as you can see they can be the littlest of things! And be as delusional as you want!!! So tell me if it sucks or if it mildy attracts you. If it does go ahead and post a moment thumbsup.gif

Oh and Mods I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place blush.gif It's just you're not allowed to open topics in the H/Hr moments Books 1-7 as far as I know. I 'm not sure where this would belong so I'm putting it here. Please feel free to move it if it's in the wrong place. Ofcourse you don't need my consent but I'm rambling aren't I? blush.gif Sorry! Anyways yeah...

xoxo
Hana
Fire
Ok lol you all hate me crying.gif Just kidding! LOL but for my enjoyment I'm gonna then post the moments. Let's start with Book 1 shall we? And not in that format because I have a lot and it'd take a long time. This is the British Edition chapters and and page numbers are listed.


Chapter: The Midnight Duel pg 118

QUOTE
'Malfoy tricked you,' Hermione said to Harry. 'You realize that, don't you? He was never going to meet you -Filch knew someone was going to be in the trophy room, Malfoy must have tipped him off.'

Ahhh Harry's already needing her! Well ofcourse he won't tell her that the boy isn't exactly head over heels in love with her...yet that is. But this is the beginning of Harry knowing Hermione's being right. wub.gif And she knows that he knows with the calm tone (not once does it say she was mad or irritated she explained calmly no ! marks as if knowing...heart.gif) she says it in. Already...

Chapter:The Midnight Duel pg 119
QUOTE
'Oh, move over,' Hermione snarled. She grabbed Harry's wand, tapped the lock and whispered, 'Alohomora!'

Which wand did you grab Hermione? *wink* Ok I am totally twisted I'll admit, but honestly the innuendo surrounding this couple is like wow and quite funny too. And how sweet is that she can just use Harry's wand like that Awww! and so perfectly. My mind is screaming 'DH FORESHADOWING' And god knows where he kept his 'wand' whistling.gif Knew Hermione wasn't a stickler for the rules *snort*

Chapter:The Midnight Duel pg 120
QUOTE
'No we don't mind,' he said. 'You'd think we dragged her along wouldn't you?'
But Hermione had given Harry something else to think about as he climbed back into bed.

Ahhh Hermione helping Harry without even realizing it how adorable is that? What did she give you to think about Harry? *snicker* Maybe 'I'm going to fall in love with her' 'She's looked so pretty in her nightclothes' 'She's going to fall in love with me' 'OBHWF is so Oedius Complex' *giggle* And Harry doesn't have a retort to say to her but Ron does and Harry never answers him.

Chapter: Hallowe'en pg 127
QUOTE
'It's no wonder no one can stand her,' he said to Harry as they pushed their way into the crowded corridor. 'She's a nightmare, honestly.'
Someone knocked into Harry as they hurried past him. It was Hermione. Harry caught a glimpse of her face - and was startled to see that she was in tears.
'I think she heard you.'

This is actually one of my fave chapters! You can feel the lovelyness radiating from that quote. It's a bit bittersweet actually. Harry already looks for her and feels bad for her. See I love Ron he just makes such nice moments! Look over to the next one!
startled definiton: To become alarmed, frightened, or surprised.
So the poor girl probably alarmed poor Harry with the tears making HIM feel bad even though he didn't do anything. Aww wub.gif there's just something significant over this moment.

Chapter: Hallowe'en pg 128-132
QUOTE
As they jostled their way through a crowd of confused Hufflepuffs, Harry suddenly grabbed Ron's arm. As they jostled their way through a crowd of confused Hufflepuffs, Harry suddenly grabbed Ron's arm.
'I've just thought-Hermione.'
'What about her?'
'She doesn't know about the troll.'
Ron bit his lip.
'Oh, all right,' he snapped. 'But Percy'd better not see us.'
SNIP
'Oh, no,' said Ron, pale as the Bloody Baron.
'It's the girls' toilets!' Harry gasped.
'Hermione!' they said together.
It was the last thing that they wanted to do, but what choice did they have? Wheeling around they sprinted back to the door and turned the key, fumbling in their panic - Harry pulled the door open - they ran inside.
Hermione Granger was shrinking against the wall oppostie, looking as if she was about to faint. The troll was advancing on her, knocking the sinks off the walls as it went.
'Confuse it!' Harry said desperately to Ron, and seizing a tap he threw it as hard as he could against the wall.
The troll stopped a few feet away from Hermione. It lumbered around, blinking stupidly, to see what had made the noise. Its mean little eyes saw Harry. It hesitated, then made for him instead, lifting its club as it went.
'Oy, pea brain!' yelled Ron from the other side of the chamber, and threw a metal pipe hitting its shoulder, but it heard the yell and paused again, turning its ugly snout towards Ron instead, giving Harry time to run around it.
'Come on, run, run!' Harry yelled at Hermione, trying to pull her towards the door, but she couldn't move, she was still flat against the wall, her mouth open with terror.
SNIP
It roared again and started towards Ron, who was nearest and had no way of escape.
Harry then did something that was both very brave and very stupid: he took a great runing jump and managed to fasten his arms arounf the troll's neck from behind. The troll couldn't feel Harry hanging there, but even a troll will notice if you stick a long bit of wood up its nose.
SNIP
Harry got to his feet. He was shaking and out of breath. Ron was standing there with his wand still raised, staring at what he had done.
It was Hermione who spoke first.
'Is it - dead?'
'I don't think so,' said Harry. 'I think it's just been knocked out.'
SNIP
Hermione hung her head. Harry was speechless. Hermione was the last person to do anything against the rules, and here she was, pretending she had, to get them out of trouble. It was as if Snape had started handing out sweets.
SNIP
'She might have not needed saving if we hadn't locked the thing in with her,' Harry reminded him.


I just love this entire part. Ok let's tackle the first moment: Harry even though he's not the reason for Hermione crying remembers her and instantly goes into saving mode unlike Ron who does it unwillingly even though it his fault. It's just so sweet that HE remembers Hermione and not anyone else. Just Harry. Second part it says Harry pulled the door open indicating that he was the one trying to open the door in a 'panic' and then 'ran' inside. Pretty extreme for a boy who 'dislikes' a girl... Fast-forward to the Malfoy Manor WHO was the one TRYING to RESCUE Hermione? Harry. Did it work? Yes. Here we have the beginnings of it, we see that he is 'desperate'
definition: Desperate; involving or employing extreme measures in an attempt to escape; of extreme intensity
No he absolutely doesn't care...Nope not at all. Harry acts instantly whatever he can (a tap) and trying his hardest (throwing as hard as he could). He makes the troll go for HIM instead of Hermione without a second thought. See absolutely NO feelings whatsoever...nope not even ONE. Because trying to make the thing kill you and not her is so emotionless and so easy. And then when it's heading towards Ron where does Harry go? To Hermione to save HER. And then then sticking the wand up the nose and jumping on the troll. Well thank god he finally noticed Ron the poor guy would have been dead. Honestly Harry you can stare deeply in Hermione's eyes later! Ron's going to die. Trying to show off for Hermione? Well I think you're in her good books now you know because shaking and being out of breath is you know mild. I just love the part when she lies to save them. Harry realizes how much it took of her. So he DOES notice her. He does realize what it took and honest to god appreciates it and then DEFENDS her against Ron going further that making Ron know what he did was wrong. That part when I re-read was just really nice when he realizes. If my 'brother' could remotely think anything like that I'd be jumping for joy!

Chapter: Quidditch pg 133
QUOTE
It was really lucky that Harry now had Hermione as a friend. He didn't know how he'd have gotten through all his homework without her, what with all the last-minute Quidditch practice Wood was making them do. She had also lent him Quidditch through the Ages, which turned out to be a very interesting read.

You're all probably screaming how anti-H/Hr it is sure first glance it is but when you look at it more in depth it's really not! Well of course Harry'll need help but he recognizes it and is truly greatful for it. Honestly I'd be ecstatic if my siblings could even think to be greatful for all the help I give them in work rolleyes.gif and the quidditch thing proves our point right Hermione goes to every quidditch match for Harry. She gets him a book that's about Quidditch and then gives it for him. Nothing earth shattering just sweet. And you have to remember their ages and of-course it'll be a little distant and awkward at first! So this is a lot! I know!


Chapter: Quidditch - pg 135-136
QUOTE
'You've got to eat some breakfast.'
'I don't want anything.'
'Just a bit of toast,' wheedled Hermione.
SNIP
Then Hermione had performed a tricky little charm so that the pain flashed different colours.

These are just so undeniable sweet! wub.gif It's those moments that just make you go awww! How adorable! And another cute fact:
definition: wheedled: to influence or entice by soft words or flattery = heart.gif

QUOTE
At these words, Hermione seized Hagrid's binoculars, but instead of looking at Harry, she started looking frantically at the crowd.
'What are you doing?' moaned Ron, grey-faced.
'I knew it,' Hermione gasped. 'Snape - look.'
Ron grabbed the binoculars. Snape was in the middle of the stands opposite them. He has his eyes fixed on Harry and was muttering non-stop under his breath.
'He's doing something - jinxing the broom,' said Hermione.
'What should we do?'
'Leave it to me.'
Before Ron could say another word, Hermione had disappeared.
SNIP
Hermione had fought her way acrodd to the stand where Snape stood and was now racing along the row behind him; she didn't even stop to say sorry as she knocked Professor Quirell headfirst into the row in front. Reaching Snape, she crouched down, pulled out her wand and whispered a few, well choen words. Bright blue flames shot from her wand on to the hem of Snape's robes.

Quidditch pg 140-141
Oh gosh I just love love love this part so much! Ok firstly she 'seized' the binoculars which we know are large from Hagrid. A bit extreme I'd say and that girl must have been strong or so worried for Harry that she 'seized' it from Hagrid! And she does it fast to 'Before Ron could say another word' and she doesn't even care of injuring other people to save Harry and totally breaking the rules! How adorable is that? Never mess with Harry if Hermione's there. The girl set robes on fire! And honestly do I need to say more about this scene? It's lovely!

Chapter: Nicolas Flamel pg 159 and 162
QUOTE
Speaking quietly so that no one else would hear, Harry told the other two about Snape's sudden, sinister desire to be a Quidditch refferee.
'Don't play,' said Hermione at once.
'Say you're ill,' said Ron
'Pretend to break your leg,' Hermione suggested.
SNIP
'Just as long as we're not wiping you off the pitch,' said Hermione.

Aww! heart.gif See how worried she is? It's the Hermione-WorryingUncontrollably-For-Harry-Syndrome. HWUFHS. laugh.gif

Chapter: Nicolas Flamel - 162-164
QUOTE
'Now, don't forget, it's Locomotor Mortis, Hermione muttered as Ron slipped his wand up his sleeve.
'I know,' Ron snapped. 'Don't nag.'
SNIP
Hermione, who had all her fingers crossed in her lap, was squinting fixedly at Harry, who was circling the game like a hawk, looking for the Snitch.
'You know how I think they choose people for the Gryffindor team?' said Malfoy loudly a few minutes later, as Snape awarded Hufflepuff another penalty for no reason at all. 'It's people they feel sorry for. See there's Potter, who's got no parents, then there's the Weasley's who've got no money - you should be on the team, Longbottom, you've got no brains.'
Neville went bright red but turned in his seat to face Malfoy.
'I'm worth twelve of you, Malfoy' he stammered.
Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle howled with laughter, but Ron, still not daring to take his eyes from the game, said 'You tell him, Neville.'
'Longbottom,if brains were gold you'd be poorer than Weasley and that's saying something.'
Ron's nerves were already stretched to breaking point with anxiety about Harry.
'I'm warning you Malfoy - one more word -'
'Ron!' said Hermione suddenly. 'Harry - !'
Harry had suddenly gone into a spectacular dive, which drew gasps and cheers from the crowd. Hermione stood up, her crossed fingers in her mouth, as Harry streaked towards the grounf like a bullet.
'You're in luck, Weasley, Potter's obviously spotted some money on the ground!' said Malfoy.
Ron snapped. Before Malfoy knew what was happening, Ron was on top of him, wrestling him to the ground. Neville hesitated, then clambered over the back of his seat to help.
'Come on, Harry!' Hermione screamed, leaping on to her seat to watch as Harry sped straight at Snape - she didn't even notice Malfoy and Ron rolling around under her seat, or the scuffles and yelps coming from the whirl of fists that was Neville, Crabbe and Goyle.
Up in the air, Snape turned on his broomstick just in time to see something scarlet shoot past him, missing him by inches - next second, Harry had pulled out of the dive, his arm raised in triumph, the Snitch clasped in his hand.
The stands erupted; it had to be a record, no one could ever remember the Snitch being caught so quickly.
'Ron! Ron! Where are you? The game's over! Harry's won! We've won! Gryffindor are in the lead!' shrieked Hermione, dancing up and down on her seat and hugging Parvati Patil in the row in front.

Do I honestly need to say anything? I'm sorry but last time I checked crossing your fingers, being totally ignorant to one of your best friends being insulted, focusing on ONE person soley, shrieking and screaming for them, jumping on a seat for them, squealing for them, dancing on seats for them are so NOT sibling like. I think JKR must have been on helium with OBHWF when she writes scenes like THIS. It's so BLATANT and OBVIOUS it would shatter a 'anvil' to pieces! I felt like a fangirl when reading this part! And she kept on nagging Ron to remember oh so much faith. Ahh Hermione, Hermione, Hermione JKR would be very mad at you you're supposed to be in love with Ron NOT HARRY! heart.gif But true love ahhh it can't be stopped!

Well Book 1 is nearly but not yet done but I've already spent way too long here! Gotta go biggrin.gif tongue.gif

xoxo
Hana
Hopedreamer
QUOTE(fire @ Jul 7 2008, 08:53 AM) *

Comments: I burst out laughing when I read this. To me it's just absolutely adorable! Hermione's already doing the focusing-on-Harry thing and ignoring Ron (anyone reminded of the "fanciable" speech? *snicker*) Age-old habits start young, Hermione...?

Anyways, sure she's worried about the points but I think she's also worried about Harry getting caught. You'll see the measures she takes later on. Anyone else think they're adorable at age 11?
Person...??: Hermione----->Harry



Couldn't this also have been Harry----->Hermione? I ask because lately I've been wondering: was that "none of your business" remark of Harry's just a way of brushing her off, or was it also an attempt to keep her out of harm's way -- to stop her from showing up at the trophy room trying to stop the duel, and thereby possibly becoming the victim of "collateral damage," possibly inflicted by Draco?

Also, I've often thought that the next day, when Hermione broke her silence toward Harry and Ron to accuse Harry of thinking his new Nimbus 2000 was "a reward for breaking rules," she was trying to tell him how hurt she was that he didn't listen to her about Draco's "midnight duel" scam, and about chasing after Draco to retrieve Neville's stolen Remembrall before that -- which somehow supposedly showed her as insignificant to him.

Yet ironically, Harry had first met her when, on the Express, she was trying to help Neville find Trevor the toad: this must have made some kind of good impression on Harry, since he was considerably slower than Ron to form, much less voice any kind of opinion on her.
gal-texter
QUOTE(fire @ Jul 8 2008, 12:53 AM) *
Oh and Mods I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place blush.gif It's just you're not allowed to open topics in the H/Hr moments Books 1-7 as far as I know. I 'm not sure where this would belong so I'm putting it here. Please feel free to move it if it's in the wrong place.


From what I can see, the difference between this and this other thread is that you want people to provide book quotes.


*moves from Misc H/H*
Fire
You're right Hopedreamer blush.gif Thank you for that. I'm not the brightest of the lot laugh.gif Just kidding...-ish..Anyways I'll add that one in thank you! I'm going to finish the other part and add that in. I'm so silly at times. Well anyways I'll come and edit this post when I'm done.

Chapter: Nicolas Flamel, pg 166
QUOTE
'Harry, where have you been?' Hermione squeaked.

Ok I just had to mention this! It's way too adorable! She's worried about him! Oh I forgot to add that Hermione just simply trusts Harry from all the Snape buisness and everything she just trusts him. When they're 11/12! She just does. heart.gif

Chapter: Norbert the Norweigan Ridgeback, pg 171
QUOTE
'We've got lessons, we'll get into trouble, and that's nothing to what Hagrid's going to be in when someone finds out what he's doing -'
'Shut up!' Harry whispered.

It's funny how Hermione starts bickering with Ron on everything and yet when Harry tells her to shut up she does so. She's not one to take orders but she trusts him. She knows that he must have a good reason. So she doesn't fight back. wub.gif

Chapter: Norbert the Norweigan Ridgeback, pg 173
QUOTE
The following week dragged by. Wedenesday night found Hermione and Harry sitting alone in the common room, long after everyone else had gone to bed.

It's just a sweet moment. Sure they may have been waiting for Ron but they could have fallen asleep but they didn't and spend it in each other's company. Ron and Hermione would probably bickered all the time rolleyes.gif Such joy! Whoot! Whoot! But see they are friends and keep other company!

Chapter: Norbert the Norweigan Ridgeback, pg 174-176
QUOTE
'It's too late to change the plan now,' Harry told Hermione. 'We haven't got time to send Charlie another owl and this could be our only chance to get rid of Norbert. We'll have to risk it. And we have got the Invisbility Cloak, Malfoy doesn't know about that.
SNIP
How they managed to get the crate up back to the castle, they never knew. Midnight ticked nearer as they heaved Norbert up the marble staircase in the Entrance Hall and along the dark corridors. Up another staircase, then another - even one of Harry's shortcuts didn't make the work easier.
'Nearly there!' Harry panted as they reached the corridor beneath the smalles tower. Then a sudden movement ahead of the made them almost drop the crate. Forgetting that they were already invisible, they shrank into the shadows, staring at the dark outlines of two people grappling with each other ten feet away. A lamp flared.
SNIP
Hermione did a sort of jog.
'Malfoy's got detention! I could sing!'
'Don't,' Harry advised her.
Chuckling about Malfoy, they waited, Norbert thrashing about in his crate. About ten minutes later, four broomsticks came swooping out of the darkness.
Charlie's friends were a cheery lot. They showed Harry and Hermione the harness they'd rigged up, so they could suspend Norbert between them. They all helped buckle Norbert safely into it and then Harry and Hermione shok hands with the others and thanked them very much.

Ok let's tackle the first part: Hopedreamer's post got me thinking. It's like he does want to protect her. Look carefully at the wording. 'It's too late' that means he would have changed it. 'We'll have to risk it' He's worried and tries to reassure with the part about the cloak.
Second part: This is so undeniably sweet! It makes me squee! Harry's trying to make it easier for her (and him) by finding shortcuts heart.gif Ok what I said about making IS proved when Harry says 'Nearly there!' you say that to someone to encourage and help them. And if they had to shrink in the shadows they'd have to be even closer together wub.gif
Third part: This is so cute! They're bantering and having fun despite the circumstances. It's a tense situations and yet they still manage to enjoy themselves with each other. Ok that sounded so wrong *gutter*. I am such a wrong person! But it's cute isn't it? And Harry didn't snap or anything he 'advised' her. He knows that she won't take orders. It's cute! And it shows how well they work together! I just love this entire part! Who said that they couldn't have fun? In a tense situation? Yeah I think that point was just sunk bad with this one moment. thumbup.gif heart.gif And I have to say this because my stupid alter ego won't let me rest but this screams *GOF-FORESHADOWING!!!!!!!!!!* Dragons, Hary and Hermione. She helps him with learning the spells to save him from the dragon. And it shows that Ron doesn't need to be there for them to have fun, proves the work bloody well together, are happy together, joke together. Ahhh it's adorable this scene! And can you imagine how much they were happy that even Hermione forgot the cloak...with each other...gazing at each other...*clears throat* Yes um..as I said great moment tongue.gif

Chapter: The Forbidden Forest, pg 179
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Hermione and Neville were suffering, too. They didn't have as a bad a time as Harry, because they weren't as well known, but nobody would speak to them either. Hermione had stopped drawing attention to herself in class, keeping her head down and working in silence.

Aww! I feel so bad for them but that's not the point. It's that Harry notices how it's affecting Hermione. Sure he mentioned Neville but he specifically then goes into Hermione! So he does watch her and care about her! It just proves that right here.


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Hopedreamer
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(Fire)

Book: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone
Chapter: The Potions Master, pg. 103
Quote:

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Snape was still ignoring Hermione's quivering hand.

"What is the difference, Potter, between monkshood and wolfsbane?"

At this, Hermione stood up, her hand stretching towards the dungeon ceiling.

"I don't know," said Harry quietly. "I think Hermione does, though, why don't you try her?"

A few people laughed...



Comments: I know at first it seems anti-H/Hr, but to me it's a sort of foreshadowing. We know Hermione sticks by Harry and defends him, right? Well, here's where my delusional mind comes in: Harry's hesitating and she knows he doesn't know the answer and at the last question she stands up hoping he'd pick her which inadvertently leads to Harry being saved. And he says that "quietly": he never meant to be mean!

Person...??: Both



"Not the brightest of the lot"? Don't be so hard on yourself, Fire. Two years ago, I too came to see this scene as reciprocal. It seemed to me that the harder Snape badgered Harry with questions whose answers Harry couldn't possibly know (despite having stayed up late at Four Privet Drive reading his new schoolbooks -- a very Hermione-ish thing to do!), the harder Hermione fought to rescue him (certainly, showing off her knowledge wasn't a high priority for her here). Ironically, though, it was Harry who ended up trying to rescue her -- from Snape's "Invisibility Charm." Thus we see both Harry's "saving-people thing" and Hermione's "saving-Harry thing" at work for the first time. Though they probably weren't conscious of it at the time, clearly there was already a bond at work between them.

Late last summer, Mira said:

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(Mira)

Ron didn't just whine about Percy, he whined about being poor, he whined about homework. Yeah, both he and Harry were average students, but Ron's attitude was a bad influence on Harry...



Mightn't Snape's attitude have been another bad scholastic influence on Harry? In that first Transfiguration class, Hermione had been the only student to turn her match into a needle, and Harry had apparently admired her for it. But in the above-quoted-from Potions scene, Snape treated Hermione just as badly as he did Harry. In this, did Snape aggravate Harry's feelings of scholastic inferiority to Hermione (which as a Legilimens, Snape was almost certainly aware of) while at the same time ignoring Hermione at least partly in order to send Harry the message, That's what you can expect for excelling -- thus actually enabling Harry to be scholastically swayed by Ron?

I've said before that Harry never learned anything from Snape that Snape didn't want him to learn; it appears, then, that here Snape taught Harry a very bad lesson. It makes one wonder all the more what kind of a study team Harry and Hermione could have made without Ron in the picture -- or at least, had Hermione's influence on Harry been a bit stronger...

About the troll incident, you wrote:

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I just love this entire part. Okay, let's tackle the first moment: Harry, even though he's not the reason for Hermione crying, remembers her and instantly goes into saving mode -- unlike Ron, who does it unwillingly even though it is his fault. It's just so sweet that he remembers Hermione and not anyone else. Just Harry. Second part: it says Harry pulled the door open indicating that he was the one trying to open the door in a "panic" and then "ran" inside. Pretty extreme for a boy who "dislikes" a girl...



Obviously, like numerous other readers, you've accepted the idea that it was Ron, by his "nightmare" remark, who drove Hermione in tears to the washroom where she was subsequently trapped with the troll.

As I've stated in several other posts on this site (not to mention several PM's), I had never heard of this idea until after I joined Portkey. I've also stated in these earlier posts the problem I've always had accepting the idea myself. Perhaps I haven't made it clear in the past, so -- at the risk of sounding tiresome to you and others -- let me now try putting it a new way:

JKR does not show a clear cause-and-effect relationship between Ron's "nightmare" remark and Hermione's tearful flight to the washroom.

Nor does she confirm, in any of her interviews, the existence of such a link. Or, as with Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione as the final ships, did she intend it to be understood?

Here, on the other hand, are some things she does make clear about the incident:
    1) Between the "midnight duel" incident and Flitwick forcing her to work with Ron, Hermione was highly motivated to keep her distance from both Ron and Harry.

    And why wouldn't she have done so, since she'd been giving them the silent treatment prior to the Charms clash class? In this way, she very likely would have prevented herself from ever hearing Ron's remark in the first place. Also, we're told that after that class the corridor outside Flitwick's classroom was "crowded," which also could have put considerable distance between her and the pair. So all in all, mightn't it seem a bit contrived that Hermione should have just happened to hear Ron's remark right at the moment he made it?


    2) Ron had observed Hermione rubbing other yearmates of theirs the wrong way -- and admitted as much to Harry.

    Hermione, in fact, had been doing so ever since the Express, where near the end of the trip she grumbled to Harry and Ron that "people outside [your compartment] are behaving very childishly, running up and down the corridors" -- in other words, that they were acting their ages as she was unable to act hers. And can we imagine that she wouldn't have told off a few of them for that -- as if she were already a prefect? (In the "midnight duel" incident she tried to take on a prefect's task -- and admitted as much.)

    It was also to be expected that as she kept up this "McGonagall Junior" act during those first two months at Hogwarts, yearmates of hers other than Harry, Ron or Neville would from time to time make remarks similar to Ron's. Sometimes the remark would simply be made about Hermione (in or out of her earshot), and sometimes it would be made right to her face.

    So assuming she did hear Ron's remark -- and especially at this very early stage in their acquaintance -- why then should it have been more than a drop in a bucket to her, in and of itself?


    3) Harry believed, rather than knew, that Hermione heard Ron's remark.

    We really have only Harry's belief for it that Hermione heard the remark. He didn't tell Ron, "She heard you," but "I think she heard you." He seems to have fused two disparate facts -- Ron makes a rude remark about Hermione, Hermione runs past in tears -- without considering how connected they actually were. Yet if Harry was wrong in believing what he did, it nonetheless shows that he was already concerned about Hermione's feelings -- and considerably more so than Ron was. You called this one right, Fire.


    4) Only because of Harry's belief that Hermione heard Ron's insult did Ron even suspect that he himself might be to blame for Hermione's distraught state, much less feel anything resembling guilt about it.

    Ron didn't know any more than Harry did whether Hermione heard the remark. But Harry was, after all, The Boy Who Lived, an icon of the Wizarding World; and Ron had hit it off with him at their first meeting. So if Harry thought Hermione heard the remark...


    5) Had Harry not realized first that Hermione was in danger, Ron probably never would have known about it while there was still time to rescue her, much less lifted a finger to rescue her even had he known.

    Ron agreed to join Harry in the rescue mission only on the condition that "Percy'd better not see us," prefect Percy being busy at the time helping to lead other students to safety. Just before this, he'd "bitten his lip" -- apparently to choke back an insensitive retort to Harry's statement that Hermione didn't know about the troll. It's profoundly disturbing to think that Ron was willing to let her die in that washroom rather than let Percy catch him and Harry trying to save her; this, in fact, indicates a serious foundational flaw in his relations with Hermione.

    (Imagine him confessing to her in an argument, once they were married: "I only helped save you from that bloody troll because Harry Play-the-Hero Potter dragged me into it!" Then imagine her, after a shocked pause, retorting: "Well, I'd say it evened out! You dragged him into accepting Malfoy's stupid 'midnight duel' challenge and nearly got us all expelled -- Neville too!" And on and on until a wand duel broke out and/or one of them left the house, maybe forever...)

    What if Ron had refused to help Harry then -- had maybe even tried to stop him? Later in the book, when Harry was convinced that he had to get to the Stone before Snape (actually Quirrellmort) did, he told Ron and Hermione, "I'm going through that trapdoor tonight and nothing you two say is going to stop me!" Undoubtedly, then, he would have taken a similar attitude toward saving Hermione -- even to fighting the troll single-handedly, and quite possibly coming out the winner. (But JKR couldn't have had that, could she?)

    And in dragging Ron along, was he (unwittingly) paying Ron back for dragging him into the "midnight duel" fiasco?
If Ron contributed anything to Hermione's entrapment in the washroom, couldn't it have been something stronger than what Dumbledore might have called a "feeble taunt" -- which, again, she might never have even heard in the first place? Couldn't it have been, say, by leading Harry astray in the "midnight duel" incident? Wasn't Ron's clash with Hermione over Wingardium Leviosa actually a veiled argument over that -- over which of them was a better friend to Harry -- over Harry's soul, if you will? (I had previously thought that Hermione won that battle in every area except study, but now it seems that this was only short-term: Book Seven's crapilogue seems to indicate that the ultimate victory was Ron's!)

Then, too, Harry let Ron lead him astray there. This might explain why Hermione nearly knocked him down, not Ron, as she ran past the pair: as you rightly pointed out, Fire, she'd been focused on keeping him, not Ron, out of trouble. So when Harry "went into saving mode," could he have been remembering that and feeling somewhat guilty about it?

Between the time Hermione ran off to the washroom and the time the troll joined her there, could she have reflected that her own attitude and behavior might actually have enabled Harry to play into Ron's hands and, by extension, Draco's? It's ironic, too, that both she and Draco -- thus putting them slightly on the same side -- had considered Ron a bad influence on Harry. Did she reflect on that?

(On a side note, in Book Six Snape tells Narcissa and Bellatrix: "I have done my utmost to have [Harry] thrown out of Hogwarts, where I believe he scarcely belongs..." Doesn't it suddenly make more sense, then, that the "Potions Master" chapter of Book One is immediately followed by the "Midnight Duel" chapter -- as if Snape had put Draco up to issuing that challenge? Only how would getting Harry expelled have helped Snape get rid of Voldemort?)

Now the question reasonably arises: if Ron's insult didn't send Hermione to the washroom -- either because she didn't hear it or because it was too feeble, or both -- what did?

In the light of (1) and (2), it might be reasonably inferred that a few moments before Ron dropped the N-word, Hermione clashed with one or more of the others in the class (possibly including one or more of the Ravenclaws), who pushed back at her in a way she'd never expected (it might have started, too, with her being baited about having bickered with Ron). Before I joined Portkey, this is what I always understood had happened, going simply by Ron's remarks that "no one can stand her" and that "she's got no friends." And since it was Charms class that had just ended, I'm guessing that this pushing-back involved not only words, but also some kind of wandwork -- or maybe just the threat thereof.

"JKR never gave us a clue that any such thing happened."

Don't the remarks of Ron's I've just quoted at least hint at such a thing happening? Of course, too, they stemmed from Hermione's general demeanor toward her yearmates ever since the Express -- which in itself is a rather large hint.

And here's something else to think about: how did Harry and Ron just happen to overhear Lavender and Parvati talking about Hermione crying in the washroom? Were the latter two just talking about it -- or gloating? Admittedly, JKR left this open; but again going merely by Ron's remarks, we can safely rule out the idea that, at that time, those two would have been very concerned about Hermione's emotional health.

On the other hand, they (as did two other girls whose names we never learned) had to share a dorm with Hermione. So aside from Ron and, of course, Draco, who then could have had a bigger stake among her yearmates in seeing her cut down to size?

If Hermione clashed with anyone other than Ron just before running off to the washroom, could that have included one -- or possibly both -- of these two?

"If it wasn't Ron's 'nightmare' remark that sent Hermione to the washroom, the formation of the Trio makes absolutely no sense."

Once again, during her first two months at Hogwarts Hermione did little but alienate her yearmates (Harry and Neville were two possible exceptions; but frankly, she sorely taxed Harry's tolerance toward her). Is it so incredible, then, that other than Ron (and of course Draco), others should have been capable of sending her running off in tears? We might consider that the burden of greatest responsibility for Hermione's entrapment rested on Hermione herself.

And as it was, once she'd been trapped she had to accept assistance from the two yearmates she'd come to find most annoying. Granted, this is somewhat incredible; so is the fact that those three subsequently ended up as a Trio any less so?
Fire
WOW! That was an amazing post Hopedreamer. Haha well thanks, I'm not dumb I know lol but I sometimes miss things. You bring up a really good point about Ron perhaps not being the one to stem Hermione's crying. JKR probably intended it that way. (Must be on of those anvils that I keep missing and totally going wah..?? at tongue.gif innocent.gif ) But the fact that it was never shown or directly outright told. So even if it was maybe put that way, there's a lot of speculation if you look at that scene deeper. LOL, about Ron being a bad influence, but usually boys at that age aren't that invested in studies. I know. Atlease they're average. I think that Harry did need Ron. The trio dynamic was very special. I think that JKR could have done a lot more with Ron, she nearly grasped it not quite fully. Because Ron is very handy and is mentioned like thinking like a wizard and he's probably a really good strategist. And when things went really bad it's good to get a smile on someone's face. It warms your body from the iniside out. So do I think Ron was a bad influence on Harry? Nah. I think Harry needed him to just show him stuff about the wizarding world. And he's not a bad guy. But the Ron/Hermione dynamic doesn't work that way. Ron and Hermione, just don't fit as a couple. Practically or theoretically. They fight like I fight and bicker with my sister. That's a bit disturbing. To me I see Ron's relationship with the trio as very sibling-like. The troll scene is very interesting when put in light like that. I don't think that only that comment could reduce her to tears.

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Chapter: The Forbidden Forest, pg 180-181
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]'Snape's done it, then!' said Ron. 'If Quirrell's told him how to break his Anti-Dark Force spell -'
'There's still Fluffy, thhough,' said Hermione.
'Maybe Snape's found out how to get past him without asking Hagrid,' said Ron, looking up at the thousands of books surrounding them. 'I bet there's a book somewhere here, telling you how to get past a giant three-headed dog. So what do we do, Harry?'
The light of adventure was kindling again in Ron's eyes, Hermione answered before Harry could.
'Go to Dumbledore. That's what we should have done ages ago. If we try anything ourseleves we'll be thrown out for sure.'
'But we've got no proof!' said Harry. 'Quirell's too scared to back us up. Snape's only got to say he doesn't know how the troll got in at Hallowe'en and that he was nowhere near the third floor - who do you think they'll believe, him or us? It's not exactly a secret we hate him, Dumbledore'll think we made it up to get him sacked. Filch wouldn't help us if his life depended on it, he's too friendly with Snape, and the more students get thrown out, the better, he'll think. And don't forget, we're not supposed to know about the Stone or Fluffy. That'll take a lot of explaining.'
Hermione looked convinced.

Hermione's trying to re-assure Harry when she says that about Fluffy! Adorable. And despite how smart Hermione is Harry makes a short speech and she fully trusts and believes him. I think it just speaks volumes about their trust and good communication. She can see from his point of view and he can tell her what's right and what's wrong. But she's not also afraid to say if they're wrong. It's just this whole sect speaks a lot about them. A quote comes to mind 'Love is not just gazing into each others eyes, but looking together in the same direction.'

Chapter: The Forbidden Forest pg 186, 189
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'You don't think they've been hurt, do you?' whispered Hermione.
'I don't care if Malfoy has, but if something's got Neville ... It's our fault he's here in the first place.'
SNIP
'Harry! Harry, are you all right?'
Hermione was running towards them down the path, Hagrid puffing along behind her.
'I'm fine,' said Harry, hardly knowing what he was saying. 'The unicorn's dead, Hagrid, it's in that cleaing back there.'

Ahhh the age-old tradition of whispering back and forth Harry and Hermione? Tut, Tut, Tut, Tut, you're totally pummeling those anvils.
Okay can you imagine exactly how fast Hermione must have been running to have Hagrid puffing behind her! Hagrid who's atleast TEN times the size of her and his normal walking is there running! Yeah ok whoever says Hermione's not fit well that girl is and she's running that fast for who? Nope not Ron it's HARRY. It's obvious how much the girl cares about him wub.gif and Harry, dear, dear Harry doesn't want her to worry. It's already instilled in him as he doesn't even know what he's saying but he doesn't want her to worry! heart.gif

Chapter: The Forbidden Forest pg 190
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]Hermione looked very frightened, but she had a word of comfort.
'Harry, everyone says Dumbledore's the only one You-Know-Who was ever afraid of. With Dumbledore around, You-Know-Who won't touch you. Anyway, who says the centaurs are right? It sounds like fortune-telling to me, and Professor McGonagall says that's a very imprecise branch of magic.'

Awww! heart.gif This is so sweet! Hermione comforting him even when she's scared. And becayse of Hermione he is comforted I really don't have to say more this moment tells it all. It just is. Well I'm so deep in this sweetness that I must have missed all the anvils hitting me whistling.gif

Chapter: Through the Trapdoor, pg 192
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]Harry nodded, but he couldn't shake off a lurking feeling that there was something he'd forgotten to do, something important. When he tried to explain this, Hermione said, 'That's just the exams...

Aww, here again we have Hermione trying to comfort him and the fact that Hermione answered points that he was probably talking to her specifically because he though Ron wouldn't listen. HAH! Proof that he does talk to her about serious things and they talk about it biggrin.gif

Chapter: Through the Trapdoor, pg 194
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'We want to see Professor Dumbledore,' Hermione said rather bravely, Harry and Ron thought.

Ok right before this, Harry's frantically thinking that they have to get to Dumbledore and tells them. So we see Hermione's willing to be brave for Harry. Again she follows his instincts like I've pointed out. Blind Trust. And how do we know what Ron is thinking. Harry probably thinks that Ron is thinking the same. So Harry thinks she says it bravely, admiring her. This is shown in the later books when in life or death situations he still marvels her.

Chapter: Through the Trapdoor, pg 196
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'Right, here's what we've got to do,' he whispered urgently. 'One of us has got to keep an eye on Snape - wait outside the staff room and follow him if he leaves it. Hermione, you'd better do that.'
'Why me?'
SNIP
'Atleast Hermione's on Snape's tail' [Harry]
SNIP
'I'm sorry, Harry!' she wailed. Snape came out and asked me what I was foing, so I said I was waiting for Flitwick, and Snape went to get him, and I've only just got away. I don't know where Snape went.'
'Well, that's it then, isn't it?' Harry said


Okay the fact that he says it urgently obviously shows that's it's extremely important. And who does he especially entrust that to Hermione who then in turn is surprised. Already we see Harry think of Hermione so highly that'd she's be the perfect girl for such a hard task. He says it clearly, firmly and believes in her as shown with the 'Atleast Hermione' and then Hermione specifically goes to Harry and is absolutely ditraught that she led Harry only Harry down. Definition of wailing: A long, loud, high-pitched cry, as of grief or pain. She was so horrified of failing Harry. But Harry doesn't get mad at her, but understands and it's ok.

Chapter: Through the Trapdoor, pg 196-197
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'I'm going out of here tonight and I'm going to try and get the Stone first.'
'You're mad!' said Ron.
'You can't!' said Hermione. 'After what McGonagall and Snape have said? You'll be expelled!'
'SO WHAT?' Harry shouted. 'Don't you understand? If Snape gets hold of the Stone, Voldemort's coming back! Haven't you heard what it was like when he was trying to take over? There won't be any Hogwarts to get expelled from! He'll flatten it, or turn it into a school for the Dark Arts! Losing points doesn't matter any more, can't you see? D'you think he'll leave you and your families alone if Gryffindor win the House Cup? If I get caught before I can get to the Stone, well I'll have to go back to the Dursleys and wait for Voldemort to fine me there. It's only dying a bit later than I would have done, because I'm never going over to the Dark Side! I'm going through that trapdoor and nothing you two say is going to stop me! Voldemort killed my parents, remember?
Harry glared at them.
'You're right, Harry,' said Hermione in a small voice.
'I'll use the Invisibility Cloak,' said Harry. 'It's just lucky I got it back.'
'But will it cover all three of us?' said Ron
'All - all three of us?'
'Oh, come off it, you don't think we'd let you go alone?'
'Of course not,' said Hermione briskly. 'How do you think you'd get to the Stone without us? I'd better go and look through my books, there might be something useful ...'
'But if we get caught, you two will be expelled, too.'
'Not if I can help it,' said Hermione grimly....
SNIP
Hermione was skimming through all her notes, hoping to come across one of the enchanments they were to try and break.

Okay so the first part is just basically Hermione trying to protect Harry and then she adds like an afterthought of the expelling, she just wants to keep him safe. And then Harry's speech. He's specifically talking to Hermione with the coloured part of the speech. The 'Haven't you heard what it was like when he was trying to take over?'. Ron would ofcourse know all about this, Hermione through her books so this is obviously at her. Unconsciously he's already doing the 'saving-people thing' and it's directed at Hermione. And the points and Hogwarts is a dead give away. And again the saving people thing directed at Hermione is blatantly obvious when he directs the 'you and your families' and he's already trying to protect Hermione. He's already fighting for her. It's funny because the only time he says something like I'm willing to do anything to keep you safe is directed at Hermione, to Hermione. And Hermione understands and trusts him with no questions and once again absolutely understands him and because she answers 'You're right' proves it was directed to her. She's overwhelmed by how much he cares, her voice is quiet and she feels for him. And what interests me is how Ron blindly just says the three of us. I think he always knew Hermione had stronger feelings for Harry with being in love. Always did, always will. And he knows Hermione would stick by him *huggles Ron* and then the expelled comment again blatantly obvious it's Hermione he's directing to. That's just sweet how he cares! wub.gif And Hermione reading over all her notes. online2long.gif That girl sure must love Harry. Can you imagine how many notes that girl has?! Ok and *clears throat* if anyone still believes that it's Ron that gets Hermione to help break rules and stuff like that. I think this part just kinda uhh...sunk that theory. It's Harry that she's willing to break rules, loosen up for, Harry that shes' willing to risk everything for, because he 'feels' it. She puts her life in his hands practically. I'm sorry did I miss any anvils? Looks at the sky? Uhhh why are the stars spelling out Harmony? whistling.gif

Chapter: Through the Trapdoor, pg 198
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Harry turned to Hermione.
'Do something,' he said desperately.
Hermione stepped forward

I think I just melted wub.gif But honestly just look at this. It's beautiful! How he especially turns to Hermione when he needs something desperately and Hermione steps forward willing to do anything. See? This is why I ship them...it doesn't matter if we lost or won becausse at the end of the day I fell in love with well true love. These moments are just beautiful.

Chapter: Through the Trapdoor, pg 200-201
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'Want to go first, Hermione?'
'No, I don't!'
SNIP
Harry, who was still playing the flue, waved at Ron to get his attention and pointed at himself.
'You want to go first? Are you sure?' said Ron. 'I don't know how deep this thing goes. Give the flute to Hermione so she can keep him asleep.'
Harry handed the flue over.
SNIP
There was a loud bark from the dog, but Hermione had already jumped. She landed on Harry's other side.


Hahaha I burst out laughing when I read this. Ron's asking Hermione to go first and then lovely adorable chivralous Harry makes himself go first making Hermione play the flute so he can make sure it's safe. Okay how absolutely adorable is that?!?! No wonder Hermione loves the boy biggrin.gif And landing on Harry's side. Awww! JKR especially said Ron landed 'sprawled next to Harry' while Hermione landed on his side. Like on top of him innocent.gif

xoxo
Hana
Fire
Okay adding the previous post with the quotes smile.gif


Chapter: Through the Trapdoor, pg 202
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'Lucky you pay attention in Herbology, Hermione,' said Harry as he joined her by the wall, wiping sweat by his face.
'Yeah,' said Ron, 'and lucky Harry doesn't lose his head in a crisis - "there's no wood", honestly.

Ron can be such a - well prat lol! To Hermione. Something my sister would pronanly say to me or my mum...Oh sorry was that supposed to be an 'anvil' guess it crashed whistling.gif Anyways here Harry is thanking her, even though Harry was the one who told Hermione to light a fire even if he was choking calmly wheareas Ron was bellowing. And then Harry thanks her. Uhh...yeah...total foreshadowing of which one is a better realtionship. Calming the other person down and helping them and then thanking them you know is absolutely shippy while you know bellowing your head off them and making sarcastic comments like a sister/brother would do after you saved their life is so NOTshippy. See I always knew Ron was so caring towards Hermione - hey wait a minute it was HARRY who was acting like that and RON acting like the annoying brother tongue.gif

Ok right this isn't a shippy moment but just a tidbit of info:
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They seized a broomstick each and kicked off into the air
SNIP
Ron, dived, Hermione rocketed upwards...

Yeah ok I don't think Hermione is absolutely terrified of heights or brooms or crap at it or there would have been something mentioned. See I knew Harry inspired her tongue.gif I mean after you know oglin- uhh - watching him she had to have a reason other than ofcourse being in love with Harry...you know in a strictly 'sibling' way. *snort* Yeah, right! *sarcasm*

Chapter: Through the Trapdoor, pg 205
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Twice, Ron only just noticed in time that Harry and Hermione were in danger.

Now I know next to nothing about symblism, alchemy and all those other stuff but it's like Ron is the protector of Harry and Hermione's relationship. It' just something about this. The way it's phrased I guess. And how he sacrifices himself so they can make it through. Makes you think doesn't it?

Chapter: Through the Trapdoor, pg 206-208
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With one desperate look back at Ron, Harry and Hermione charged through the door and up the next passageway.
'What if he's - ?'
'He'll be all right,' said Harry, trying to convince himself. 'What do you reckon's next?
'We've had Sprout's, that was the Devil's Snare - Flitwick must've put the charms on the kets - McGonagall transfigured the chessmen to make them alive - that leaves Quirell's spell, and Snape's ...'
They had reached another door.
'All right?' Harry whispered.
'Go on.'
Harry pushed it open.
SNIP
Hermione let out a great sigh and Harry, amazed, saw that she was smiling, the very last thing he felt like doing.
'Brilliant,' said Hermione. 'This isn't magic - it's logic - and a puzzle.
A lot of the greatest wizards haven't got an ounce of logic, they'd be stuck here for ever'
'But so will we, won't we?'
'Of course not,' said Hermione.
SNIP
'There's only enough there for one of us,' he said. 'That's hardly one swallow.'
They looked at each other.
'Which one will get you back through the purple flames?'
Hermione pointed at a rounded bottle at the right end of the line.
'You drink that,' said Harry. 'No, listen - get back and get Ron - grab brooms from the flying-key room, they'll get you out of the trapdoor and past Fluffy - go straight to the owlery and send Hedwig to Dumbledore, we need him. I might be able to hold off for a while, but I'm no match for him really.'

1st part: I don't see Hermione going pale, panicking, bloodshot eyes, screaming heart wrenching pain filled screams, crying, when they leave behind Ron. They do the same actions. Harry and Hermione. And they charge through the door, not that hesistant are we? Def of charge: To rush forward in or as if in a violent attack Right...I thought Hermione and Ron were oh so 'destined' but yet Hermione follows Harry, trusts him helps him and does everything she and they look at each other. And then how sweet is that when Harry asks 'All right?' as if asking her is she ok and she replies with 'Go on'. My heart literally melted there. wub.gif
2nd part: It's absurd to think that Harry would think that she wouldn't help him and solve it for him to go through the fire. She just needs a minute. That's it. A sweet moment. Showing Hermione again helping Harry with anything and him trusting and using her as a rock.
3rd part: Ahh looking into each other's eyes heart.gif And it's as if he already knows that Hermione wants to and will go with Harry and he tells her it's not enough for both of them. Then Harry without a thought wants her to go back and be safe but then he remembers Ron and just about she's about to protest that she wants to help him he mentions she has to get Ron and entrusts a huge task in her hand dangling his life on her hands and on her. Just thinking about it gives me the chills. They're already trusting lives. Reminds you of those DH scenes doesn't it? That trust one where Harry blindly trusts her. Well he's doing the exactly same thing, protecting and taking care of her while respecting her. wub.gif I'd kill for a brother like that but then that'd be just creepy. Oh look the firework...they're spelling out Harmony heart.gif

Chapter: Through the Trapdoor, pg 208
QUOTE
But Harry - what if You-Know-Who's with him?'
'Well - I was lucky once, wasn't I?' said Harry, pointing at his scar. 'I might get lucky again.'
Hermione's lip trembled and she suddenly dashed at Harry and threw her arms around him.
'Hemione!'
'Harry - you're a great wizard, you know.'
'I'm not as good as you,' said Harry, very embarassed, as she let go of him.
'Me!' said Hermione. 'Books! And cleverness! There are more important things - friendship and bravery and - oh Harry - be careful!'

*sniff, sniff* Freeze. *hic, sniff* I shouldn't say anything. It's perfect. *sniff*

Chapter: Through the Trapdoor, pg 208
QUOTE
'You drink first,' said Harry. 'You are sure which is which, aren't you?'
'Positive,' said Hermione. She took a long drink from the round bottle at the end and shuddered.
'It's not poison?' Harry said anxiously.
'No - but it's like ice.'
'Quick, go, before it wears off.'
'Good luck - take care - '
'GO!'
Hermione turned and walked straight throught the purple fire

He's so worried about her, he keeps asking if she's ok, if it's ok... and make suire she goes first so he can help if anything goes wrong and pushes her back to safety wub.gif heart.gif Aww!

Ok that frienship speech? It was definetely love that she was going to fill in. But we all knew that. Okay and it takes a lot of guts to hug a guy when you're 11 ok? Trust me and girls just don't go around hugging guys out of the blue, either they really like them or something big like that to them. They just don't . So it just proves a lot. I know trust me. But that scene was just too beautiful for words *sniff* And they call us delusional. *sigh* One of the greatest loves. Ever. 'Behind every great love, there is a great love story' Ladies and gentlemen this is only the beginning of theirs. *sniff*

And now to finish off with some adorable moments:
Chapter: The Man with Two Faces: pg 209
'Your friend Miss Granger accidentally knocked me over as she rushed to set fire to Snape...'
QUOTE


Chapter: The Man with Two Faces: pg 215
'Three days. Mr Ronald Weasley and Miss Granger will be most relieved you have come around...'
SNIP
'You got there? You got Hermione's owl?'
'We must have crossed in mid-air'

Well ofcourse Hermione had to save him! Her 'saving-Harry thing' is just too brilliant heart.gif Even Voldemort realizes that, I mean she tried to set fire on someone. Wow. And then Dumbledore has to say 'Ronald Weasley' instead of 'Mr Weasley' yet he doesn't have to say 'Hermione Granger'. And Harry's blind faith and trust in Hermione. Ofcourse it had to be Hermione. After all no-one else has the 'saving-harry thing' instilled in them as much as she does , do they? See already HINTS screaming Dumbleodre and Voldie were Harmony shippers. Both were brilliant. biggrin.gif You have Dumbledore seeing their love and Voldie seeing the desire and passion. Heck yeah innocent.gif

Chapter: The Man with Two Faces: pg 218
QUOTE
'Harry!'
Hermione looked ready to fling her arms around hiim again, but Harry was glad she held herself in as is his head was still very sore.
'Oh, Harry, we were sure you were going to - Dumbledore was so worried -'

*SQUEE* *SQUEE* *SQUEE* Urge for physical contact: check. Reading minds : check. Desperate for the other: check. Willing to die for the other: check. Comfort each other: check. Worry for each other: check. Respect each other: Check. Love:check.

The Man With Two Faces : pg 223
QUOTE
'It was Ginny Weasley, Ron's younger sister, but she wasn't pointing at Ron.
'Harry Potter!' she squealed. 'Look, Mum! I can see -'
'Be quiet, Ginny, and it's rude to point.'


Errrr....right....because it is SOOO obvious that THIS is 'true love'....err yeah...ummm riiight. So obvious that this little fangirl is going to be his wife...yeah and err be a err soulmate yeah errr online2long.gif online2long.gif Right...

Chapter: The Man With Two Faces : pg 223
QUOTE
'Hope you have - er - a good holiday,' said Hermione looking uncertainly after Uncle Vernon, shocked that anyone could be so unpleasant.

Aww she's worried about him! How cute? And for my final point. Ginny may become his err...'wife' (Didn't you hear that is so over-rated nowadays, it's the hearts that matter not the pant- er looks) but like in DH Hermione will be the last face in his mind before he goes, his last joyful memory. Ginny maybe the err...umm..well...lips but it will be Hermione's face, Hermione's smile, Hermione's memory that he will feel and see. End of book 1 moments smile.gif

xoxo
Hana
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