This is a cautious exploratory mission by me. I've been wondering this topic a while now. Are there Draco / Ginny shippers out there who are also male. For me, I'm a quasi shipper for this couple. I have other reasons that aren't exactly all that nice to want this ship. But after so many years of reading them - I've started to change. I've notice that I read D/G fics - not as actively as I do H/Hr - for some themes that aren't in the H/Hr or L/J ships. So in this bold new world of kinks, I am wondering, are there other men out there who do enjoy this pairing, or is it mainly the staple for women/girls/females ?

NAPPA
* quitely lurking *

I have wondered precisely the very same thing, Nappa

Actually, I found one male kind of shipper, once, but I'm not going to reveal who unless the person give me permission to

Hint: it's a PK mod.

Ri

I'm guessing there might be a lack of male D/G fans because most boys uber-hate Draco. You know what I mean? At least with girls there is some sex appeal, but most every boy I've met just hates Draco entirely and so probably wouldn't be very inclined to ship D/G. *shrugs* I don't know, it's just a hypothesis.

But judging by the crickets chirping in this thread, methinks there aren't too many D/G Boys at all.

That's kind of sad.

-'Nilla, who wants a D/G Boy for herself

I know three male shippers of D.G in FictionAlley I agree that theire aren't too many boy D/G out there but some of them actually plays the idea of the two. I know some.

I have had personal experience in attempting to convert male friends to be D/G shippers (Because I'm strange like that, I guess). I wouldn't say there is complete rejection or acceptance with any of them, since all responses to such an idea are along the lines of "Hmm...interesting," or "Never even considered it." In summation, I would say that other than the male-species-detesting-Draco factor, there is also the simple fact that the majority of male HP fanfiction readers do not peruse for those in the category of romance -- but I could be very wrong

It would certainly help if more of my male friends actually read HP

Hmmm, the only male friend I have that reads the series doesn't believe in shipping.

*grumble*

I have tried. Oh, have I tried.


Crystal

you guys..... nope draco and ginny no!! just no

One, this is the wrong topic. Find the Debate Thread and post there. Two, it'd be polite if you'd like to tell us why you think so. Again, not here. On the Debate thread. And I'd advise you to read the rules of the Debate Thread, as well and the PK forum, thanks.


Crystal

Haha well handled, Crys.

And being that I have never notced this thread, I'll add in my two cents.

I agree with the idea that generally many boys dont even particpate in shipping wars/discussion at all. Hence, fanGIRLS.

I really don't know many fanboys.

I know one boy in RL here who reads HP, stays up to date on Mugglenet, and enjoys the idea of H/Hr and D/G. And was looking for clues in HBP and such.

So they're not impossible to find, but a male shipper is a rare specimen.

Kristina

Really? Or just a D/G shipper? I wasn't a D/G shipper until I read one of the stories here on portkey and got sold on the idea

Well, I know there are males who ship other things, but shipping in generally a fangirly type thing, and you dont see many boys prancing around dreaming about ships. But this is a rash generalization and I really appriciate the boys who do ship, because you get a whole different sort of view on the idea.
Plus, a boy D/G shipper is just awesome.
What do you like about the ship? And if this isn't too OT, what fic sold you?

Just curious.


Kristina

wow I only just noticed this thread. I am recently converted D/G shipper. (actually only started shipping them few days ago) I must say though that I have not noticed much male D/G shippers. All the males I know though would not even admit they read Harry Potter let alone ship a couple *sigh*.

I personally love the D/G ship. I think I actually enjoy it more then the H/Hr ship. less stressful if you know what I mean. I was totally sold after reading one fanfic. It's called Draco sinister and I was completely absorbed by it. Couldn;t stop reading it until I had finished. I am and now always will be a D/G shipper. There is just something so intrigueng about the ship. Draco is a very interesting character to read and write about. And Ginny is so great to read and write about too.

(OT)
On a side note anyone interested in taking up my story with me in Round Robin please do. I would love to get this story on the way)

Personally I don't find the D/G ship romantic, persay. Its rather a ship for releasing sexual stress into writing I suppose.

In HP Draco is characterized as a pretty indecent person. Doing and saying anything that comes into his mind, even if it is highly offensive to other people. And Ginny is characterized as a girl that is rather lose.

So, it is easy to imagine what would happen if these two characters are paried up together. They'd go at it like rabbits for a year or two, while seeing someone else behind each other's back. Then when the flames are cooled, I doubt they'll stay together for long. Not something I look for in a romantic pairing, but it does make good lemon.

I guess that would depend on the writer (or the fan), wouldn't it? I've written plenty of D/G fics, and not one of them features them having sex.




I can agree with that in maybe the first couple of books. At least in the way JKR portrays him. Have you read HBP? Because he did quite a few major bad things in that book a bit against his will. He's not that two-dimensional.




Loose?

She's characterized as loose? In what context do you mean "loose?" If you're implying that she's not very selective in relationships she chooses (how'd I do in vague-ing up "she's a ######?") then I'm going to disagree. Alot.

Ginny is not "loose." She's dated two guys rather shortly and Harry. That's not loose. That's normal. It's not like she dated half the school- since when does dating two people and having one serious relationship immediately get translated into "wow what a ######?"

I'm kind of offended.

So no, I highly doubt that Ginny would "go at it like rabbits" with Draco for sexual satisfaction. I think Ginny has more morals than that.



Crystal

I am going to agree with Inthestars. I do think that Draco and Ginny can be romantic if written that way. It is the same as any pairing.

Draco is only portrayed this way because we only see him through Harry's eyes. In HBP we get a glimpse of what is behind the stuck up boy. There is a lot of portential for a romantic pairing between D/G, especially after HBP.

I don't think Ginny is loose. That is like saying a girl should only like one boy and one boy only. Where as most of us do have at least three boyfriends during high school. Teenagers like to change their minds, but that doesn;t make them loose. She may not have had very serious relationships with any of them. I don't see how kissing her boyfriend makes her loose. (sorry if this comes out offensive)

Call me Crystal.




I thoroughly agree. After HBP, a lot of DG shippers seemed to abandon ship because it was apparent Ginny still did like Harry. Yet, they're not together anymore, are they? And we definitely saw a different side to Draco. Both characters were fleshed out, for one thing- and it's still possible.




Exactly. I'm so tired of people making that assumption. Granted, Ginny has dated more boys than many characters in the books- but in all honesty that doesn't make her "loose." We aren't really shown the romantic lives of the other characters besides the trio and the people close to them- and even then it's limited what we know. We didn't even know about Tonks and Lupin until the end of the sixth book.

So even besides common sense, you can't label Ginny as loose.



Okay, off topic post.



Crystal

Well I like the ship more as a sideship. Altough I see both versions from a long romantic relationship or just a lemon they are both fine for me. It's more of a side pairing for me. I don't really have a reason to say that I like them so much I have draco and ginny self made posters (no offense) My main reason is just because they look cute

I'm not sold on Draco/Ginny yet (or Draco/anyone) but the fic that warmed me up to the possibility was Legacy of Merlin Part One. It's an h/hr fic but the draco/ginny was so much better written. One of the first fics I've read where Draco/Ginny was romantically written without changing Draco's canon personality.

I find that girls falling for bad boys not so romantic, but I do think ginny has enough fire and temperment to keep a guy like draco in check. I also think their personalities really complement each other, they really are a good fit.

hehhee Sartone you will be a d/g shipper in no time with that attitude.

Whooo!! Come on sartone you know you want ot be one!!

dont deny it....we all know you do!

LOL!!!

I'm reading Draco Sinister right now and I have to admit I'm loving the draco/ginny moments. Warming up to the ship a little more...but not quite ready to come aboard yet:)

aww im so happy!! im sure that once you start getting used to the ship and readin the awesome fics you'll love them!! lol

congrats you could be classed under a 'mini male fan of D/G'

Yay!! Isn't that story just awesome?? I love that one so much I read it into the early morning hours so I could finish it.

YES! A potential male fan!

hmm...maybe it's the romantic angle.

Most d/g fics I've read are very romantic...maybe the guys aren't into that stuff.

then again I don't know many guys who read fanfiction...

...did that make any sense? sorry its midnight here. I have to be at work at 8am *sobs*
sleep time me thinks.

Some D/G fics are romantic but most are quite angsty I find.

Ahahahahahahahhaaa.

Sorry.

But the idea that D/G is gushy and romantic is really quite funny. "Romantic" isn't exactly what I would call a quality D/G fic.

I don't know. Maybe that's the problem. People are reading bad representations? I'm not saying you are or anything, but it is true there are only a few good authors who know what they're doing with characters like Draco and Ginny.


Crystal

*waves flag* HERE!!! I'm right here!!! See, you've got a male fan!

I love the D/G ship because Draco is a rebel, and Ginny is a perfect little innocent girl. There is a ridiculous amount of potential tension there. Just check out my sig. All the quiet ones like bad boys.

Hopin' you join the ranks, sartone!!

Wooo, we got ourselves a male fan!!

Can anyone link me to Draco Sinister? I can't seem to find it.

Yay, I love your signature! It's really nice to see that there are guys who read Draco/Ginny fanfiction .


Awww but I like the D/G fics with romantic endings, you know, the well written funny fluffy (never gushy) little one-shots? They always make me smile, and the better ones usually have amusing dialogues (there is so much potential for that in this ship) and hilarious plots.

But maybe guys aren't into that .

You can find Draco sinister in the recommendations board.

It's great!


I like the fluffy stuff too Chuya. makes me get warm fuzzies, but D/G fics I've read are mosty angsty. I personally like to write humour/romance D/G fics, and some angsty ones.

I'm a male fan and I like D/G. Is there anything else to be mentioned? I don't think so. D/G is quite interesting to read and I find it highly entertaining, especially when the authors begin to go...

~Salamon2

Hehe, D/G is such a cool pairing! There are probably some d/g shippers that are guys but I suppose they'd be rather embarrassed to admit it. Although there are quite a lot of other shippers that are guys... hmm. I agree with vanillapuf on this though:

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At least with girls there is some sex appeal, but most every boy I've met just hates Draco entirely and so probably wouldn't be very inclined to ship D/G.

Yeah most guys would feel intimidated reading something with such a hot character in it. Lol. Also Fluffy_the_destroyer_of_worlds I like your signature thing

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Because everyone knows the quiet ones like bad boys

that’s awesome!!

~Nikki~

D/G is well, as you said it's a "girly" ship, i actually don't mind reading it as long there is some H/HR with it, i don't hate the ship, i just well, i don't know how could Draco ever have an interest in Ginny, as someone else said already, this ship for us (males) look a lot like two rabbits getting it on ( i know i know, you womens/girls probably don't see it that way but from a male perspective it does look that way) ( Not that WE MIND really) .

Also, The Draco In (D/G) is often a "Hot Bad Boy(hum, well guess girls like it..lol Fine tho, must male shippers like the idea of naughty hermione ) or a caring and gentle draco ( again that's not for me lol).

So.. Im Not really a "Fan" like for the H/HR, but i don't actually mind reading it.

I love D/G, but I'm not a guy, so I don't count.......

Well, I like D/G just like I like N/G. But either pairing as a side-ship. I only can read H/Hr and R/Lu as main focus.

I only dislike Draco when he's put as black or white, but not gray. I like the Draco-evolves stories.

That's why I find it interesting though, because Draco and Ginny are so completely different. I liked the "rabbits getting it on" analogy... (lol.) although I don't usually perceive it in that way. I'm not going to touch the whole H/HR thing but I can say naughtydraco! is quite entertaining as well. (I think most [coughfancough] girls will agree with me.)

Well, I think it's more in finding those D/G stories that aren't just about sex or lust, (you'd be surprised how hard that actually is. I'm running out of fics to read, lol)

I know guys would be loth to admit that they enjoy D/G, since Draco, (like many of you have said) is made out to be this sexy, slytherin sex god....but there are the stories that have him just as we see him in the books and they are the ones that make people become D/G shippers, I think.

I don't really think you can get a liking of a ship when everything is about sex, hot guys etc etc, so I can understand why there aren't many male D'g shippers.

Maybe guys have trouble finding the good D/G fics or they just don't read them because they don't know how addicting they can be. Another thing I thought of is a lot of guys can relate to relationships like James and Lily, Hermione and Ron, est, because they think of themselves like those characters. But there aren't many guys that will admit to being an evil basterd. Even if they are. So they can't really relate to a relationship like Draco/Ginny.

Just my thoughts but maybe some of it is true...

I know a male fan! He is a friend of mine from school and not a huge fan of the Harry Potter books although I introduced him to the joys of fanfiction - of course, he loves the smutty fics... lol but he admits that the Draco/Ginny pairing is by far the most interesting to read and that the pair have the most chemistry - way more so than Harry/Ginny! I am so chuffed!

aaawww im so proud of him *wipes tears from eyes* lol, but its good to know that there's more male D/G-ers out there

Woo, another one. Pity none of them really frequent here. These threads are not as active as they used to be *sighs*

Im a guy and I think I may be able to shed some light on why we may not like D/G. I personally think its got a lot to do with the girl getting the bad guy thing. I think a lot of guys out there (like me) try and be the gentlemen "good guy" so to speak, and get irritated when the girl we like ends up falling for the dickhead on the football team. (or whatever, you get my drift) Likewise, in the books, Im always rooting for someone like Ron or Neville (especially neville) to go and get the girl for once. I cant speak for anyone other than myself but I think that might have a bit to do with it.

Personally, Ive never considered this ship anything other than wishful thinking, as it had never even occured to me until I one day stumbled upon this site. So for me its never been a question but had it been pre HPB days I think thats a good estimate on how I woulda felt about it all.

I do have a question though, and thats how many people actually think and would bet on this still happening? I thought after HPB and IOD harmony shippers would see the light but many still remain steadfastly conviced of harmony all the way. (not that theres anything wrong with that) So I was just wondering how many people remain so devoutly attached to this ship. Or, is it more of something that was fun to think about and a good place to put ginny so h/hr could work better? (my suspicion) Anyway Id like to know what you think.

I wouldn't, haha. I don't think any D/G shippers ever really thought it would happen, or at least I never truly did.

Even though I can honestly say I wish it would have. It definitely would make the books more interesting, but that could be my own personal bias, because DG is my OTP and therefore clearly more interesting than any other relationship.




Pfffft.

Oh dear, not at all. We're not shipping D/G because it's convenient. On the contrary, I think Harry/Hermione is loads boring. I can hardly read a moment of H/Hr let alone write H/Hr without wanting to nod off.

That's probably the answer to "wondering how many people remain so devoutly attached to this ship." We're not shipping it because it's on a H/Hr site, we're shipping it because that's just plainly our ship.



Crystal

I have to agree InTheStars. I've never really thought D/G would happen, but I am very much attacthed to the ship, and would trade H/Hr in a second for D/G.

As much as I love H/Hr, (and I even write h/hr fanfiction) but I cannot bring myself to actually read h/hr fanfiction. I get bored. Canon is all fine and dandy for me, but I do find their relationship lacking. D/G is my OTP ship in that sense.

Crystal and moogle already said everything I was going to reply with, but I will just reiterate.



It's possible to be a D/G shipper without being a H/Hr shipper. Yes, being on this site has warmed me up to H/Hr a little bit, but I have never read H/Hr fanfiction nor do I consider it one of my pairings. I actually shipped R/Hr when I first became attached to D/G.

It's just a fun and exciting pairing, and we're all just fortunate that the PK admins liked it to so we have a place to talk about it.



Haha the last thing D/G is, is convenient. Hardest fanfics to write convincingly, ever.



Haha. Word.


Kristina

just to revive the topic:

for me, i can not stand reading H/Hr. i find it dull and a bit too repetive. i dont know why but i can't physically read it...it hurts lol


D/G however, is something that i knew would never happen, but that is why i like it so much. We get the basic outlines of the characters in the books but there is so much space that can be filled by fanfiction. We can use our imagination, to make nearly any story possible, yet still remain within the boundarys of the books.

D/G isn't canon and so it means that absolutely anything could happen, and so, its always so much more exciting. This is the sort of ship where your writing can develop into something great, not that it cant in other ships, but because there isn't anything of it in the books it means that we have to stretch our imaginations to the fullest.

i absolutely adore D/G ships, and i think i will for a very long time.