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I think we all agree here to say that Harry and Hermione relationship slowly envolve in what could (or should) be a climax. It is my belief that Hermione is already aware of her feelings toward Harry, but as for him I think that his feelings for her are unanalysed by him yet.

What I want to do here is to speculate on how harry could begin to realize his feeling’s for hermione !

so let’s take a look at the situation at the beginnings of book 6 harry will be alone, certainly blaming himself for the death of Sirius, blaming himself for dragging his friends into danger, blaming himself for not have learn occlumecy hard enough,…… well to simplify he will go nuts…

Now let’s think, Harry had started to connect the voice of reason in his head with the voice of Hermione (everyone here agree with that too I think)

So eventually he will think of her during the summer, think of all the things she had say to him all year’s long, thinking that she was right about many many things, think that he should have listened to her on many occasions, maybe promise himself to indeed listen more accuratly to her from now on, in orders to keep his friends alive, think that he had been unfair with her, think how sweet she was with him during those last 5 years,.....How he nearly lose her……

Because an another thing that I feel will haunt him all summer, will be the image of Hermione laying motionless in the DoM floor, the fear that took him at that moment, when he was thinking that Hermione was dead (that may also lead him to think to the other situation where hermione was in death situation though, like in CoS or in PoA), and he may begin to think about the fact that he have this kind of reaction with Hermione and Hermione alone (fear, terrible fear to lose her in fact !).

Now that said, I think I can safely say that Hermione will keep in touch with Harry more than ever, having learn her lesson from the past summer (and without even speak about the fact that she have realise that she love him), and more importantly after the last events (the death of Sirius) I have a strong feeling that Hermione will feel bound to write more that one time to Harry, and in a better way than Ron will !

Let’s face it Ron and Hermione, have taken 2 differents road when it comes to face Harry’s temper (good or bad), while Hermione try to ease Harry, to make him think, while she choose to confront him, Ron choose instead to fell silent, he does not try to argue with Harry (not the way Hermione do it !), he does not try to ease harry, he always choose to let him do what he want to do….even if he thinks that’s not a good idea.

I’m trying to say that it will be the same with the letters Harry will receive of both of them, Ron’s ones will without a doubt ease Harry (but in a oubvious, "not so lasting" sort of way), he will perhaps laugh, but it will not help him to deal with his pain because Ron will never ever write something to make harry think, he will always be too afraid to make him angry or sad…
Hermione’s ones on the other hand, will certainly make him a more deep effect not an obvious effect but a waaay more efficient one, because Hermione will not be afraid to show her concern for harry, to show him that she is afraid for him, she is not afraid to confront his temper

So (hopefully lool ) Harry, with all these facts mixed (the thought about how hermione was right all year’s long, the thought of how she nearly died because he did not listenned to her, the fact that he may think of all the adventures the two of them already have, the letters who bring him more warmer feelings,…) Harry will begin to feel closer to Hermione.

So that lead us to the moment where they will be around each other (the trio I mean) will Harry tell them straight about the prophecy ? No I don’t think so…
He will act very weird, trying to stay on his own, maybe barely speak to someone, and who is the most likely to drag him out of that mood ? ? ? ? Well the one who is not afraid to confront him, the one who is not afraid to tell Harry how she think he feel, to show him concern, the one clever enough to see that Harry is holdings things for himself ! !

HERMIONE of course

I really think that hermione will be the one who make Harry speak about the prophecy (maybe even she will be the first to ear it ! !) just because she will act with harry the same ways she always did (with concern, respect, always trying to make him do good, the best with his work, taking care of him,…) with the difference that like I explain (in the beginning of the post) Harry will (hopefully) pay more attention to what hermione say, will listen to her more and more……

That way harry can begin to feel closer to Hermione, and maybe learn to know her more deeply, share more moment, realise the way she feels about him (that guy is sooo clueless !! ),……… Well I will stop here i don’t want to speculate too much ! ! !

So what do you think ?


Peace


SnufflesLives !!!!

I think that that's a very plausible way Harry is going to discover his feelings for Hermione. I bet that once he starts thinking that he have feelings for her he's going to be in doubt and maybe denial. So hopefully he's going to realize them soon because it's going to take him a long time to finally admit to them.

Hey bro,tell one guy,in that age,that isnt completely hopeless in these situations?I were,and im not very better even six years later....anyway...I belive that the MOM was the turning point.Like you wrote,the feling of losing Hermione will trigger something in he,Im sure of it,but what it is going to br triggered,I dont know.maybe he will try to get away from them or something like it.But it is clear as crystal that Mione will bring he back!His fellings are already lurking,in a subconcious way that is.All the protectiveness towards everything you knowm,all the situations already written in the best esays in the PA tell us taht the changenning in his fellings are underway.Mione got her awakening by almost lossing Harry to Voldemort in the end of book IV.Harry got his by almost lossing her in the end of book V.In the end of book VI,I belive,that thei're relationship will be on the first steps towards a romantical one,if not sooner....

When Hermione tried to talk to Harry about Sirius, Ron was there to shush her. I hope when she writes Harry, she says what's on her mind. Harry is awfully dense about romance, so I wonder if just realizing how important Hermione has been to him for so many years will be enough to make it click with him, "Hey, I have serious feelings for her." And even if he realizes it, what will he do? Or is that for book seven, because this is Harry we're talking about, after all. Also, I want Harry to apologize formally to Hermione for not listening to her.

I think Harry will be closer to Hermione than Ron, unless she gets involved with some guy and devotes some of her time to him. Of course, that will cause conflicts with that guy thinking she really likes Harry. How many times will people accuse him of being involved with her before he finally figures out that he really does like her that way?

I've just thought of something about Harry's birthday-he'll get all of his cards and presents from his friends, but there won't be anything from Sirius. Are they just going to leave Harry to be alone on his birthday again? That would be a terrible mistake. Maybe Hermione will visit Privet Drive, she's never been there before.

That is what I think will happen.It will take him all year long to really beggin to take those step towards a romantical relationship with her.Imagine all the internal conflict that he will have with hinself all year long?That would be a amazing to see,too much good to JK to not do it...

I think he has too much going on with Snuffles gone and all but I think this would also be a good oppurtunity to think about his true feelings.... I know for certain his friends will be there for him and hopefully Dumbledore won't leave him clueless again.... Hermione would probabaly give much effort to be there for him always..... just like in the many times when no one else believed him it was her who was always there for him.....

~Karen

Nothing from Sirius for his birthday, it soounds so sad
but I don't think so. If there is something you can expect is a gift from Lupin of something that had belonged to Sirius. As DD did with the cloak.

I think that Harry actually knows his feelings at the bottom of his heart but he hasn't THOUGHT about them.

The moment at the MoM was a non-retorning point on that relationship.

That's all I think about this topic

To a certain extent, we don't want Harry to realize his feelings too soon. I don't think that anything will really culminate until the seventh book. The thing about getting together all early on is that it just leaves a larger time gap for things to go wrong between them [impossible? It can happen], and the last thing we want is for them to exchange the doom-impending words of "let's just be friends". So with this in mind, Harry shouldn't realize anything too soon.

Realistically, he really does have his plate full. As karenkate_ kitty said, he has a lot going on with Sirius' passing. He has to grieve, and he has to surmount his feelings on this issue before he rushes into doing anything. Look at what happened when Cho moved in on Harry just a few months after Cedric died. It was a completely asinine thing for her to do, to just push on into something new when she obviously was not ready to deal. So first, let Harry heal from the thing with Sirius.

A lot of people would think it a good idea to use Hermione as kind of a bandaid to the Sirius situation, but that's not the best idea. Harry needs to fall in love with her for reasons other than "my goddaddy's dead, hold me". Yes, he's always had people around him dying, and probably will continue to be surrounded and tormented by it - but Sirius is a special case. First Harry heals. THEN he realizes that yes, while he was dealing with it, Hermione was there for him. I may end up eating my words, but we'll see.

So good ideas all around on this thread. Pumpkin pie certainly will taste sweet.

don't worry vanillapuff all our ideas would go to the rubbish binn if JK stirs the story in another the direction.... If indeed Harry would get over Sirius' death lets pray that when he feels ready to really fall in love, he would look at his female bestfriend and see her real being for the first time....

~Karen

Hmm...I guess Harry will begin to realize his feelings on Hermione is when there's a rivalry, y'know, when the situation is like when Harry really, really needs Hermione but then this rival came and somehow managed to caught Hermione's attention away from Harry. So far nobody did, not even Krum.

At first Harry felt okay, but then he's annoyed, then he's worried, then he got confused for being so worried ('I mean,it's just Hermione, why am I so worried?' thought Harry), then he got angry without knowing why, then he pulled himself away from Hermione to comfort himself but instead it makes him felt even worse because he missed Hermione, then he started to use his brain to figured out what's happening with him, THEN he finally realized that he's jealous, and that he hated his rival to the bone, he hated to see him with Hermione and that that he really, really, really needs Hermione more than before, and he'll be like '............*after 5 minutes of silence*.............By God, I'm in love with her!!!' ..and we'll be like 'In the name of Merlin's beard Harry, you need 7 years to realize that??? Even we, as the reader of the--err, we mean, Go get her! Go get her now!!'




There, pretty much like that but of course with more Rowling-ism. How does that sound?

I think that he'll be a little busy with Sirius' death in the beginning of Book 6 that he might not be thinking at all about that kind of stuff---he just needs friends at this point. I think that before the battle with Voldemort, Harry will realize all the pressure on him and everything...and he'll be alone with Hermione...and he'll realize how she's always been there for him, how he wants her, needs her, etc. etc. JKR fades out with them leaning forward and kissing. Hmmm...maybe I should write a short fanfic about that! Dang it, plot bunny!

yah jack how about writing that down.... I see the H/Hr thing happening in the later books.. i mean the realization should come up eventually.... maybe when Hermione comforts him or something... or it could be in totally different setting... lets just pray it really does happen.... and I have strong faith it will... even though i'd be eating my words after, if it doesn't....
I stand firm on our ship!!!!!

~Karen

I don't believe in this over the summer thing. In that time Harry will rather think about Sirius and the prophecy. Sure he might think about his fights with Hermione but not turn up in book6 and being madly in love with Hermione.
Its quiet more complicate. Its rather that for sure Harry and Hermione are closer even on the verge to cross the line. Thats why I believe that Harry won't tell her about the prophecy at least not by his free will. Rather I think he tells if he tells anyone then Ron.
To this comes that in book6 there will exist a real great bit of pressure against Harry and Hermione in a different way.
This all cost tension between Harry and Hermione and actuelly I imagine that all this might go high in a fight. Not such a fluffy scene or anything rather a mirror of OotP but before its dawn to Harry we get the usuall end-scene which is again faceing Voldemort.
Quiet dramaticle but through Harry's realising or coming closer to his feelings he is able to get once more away from Voldemort.
Sure JKR will play all tricks to let us sit on the edge of our chairs till book7.

Well, like I said in my first post.... he wouldn't just go and profess his love for Hermione right after the whole Sirius died thing... but it would give him time to think about his life and he'd look back the things that have happened in the past and he'd see how prevelant and how Hermione was big part of it....and i am not excluding Ron although most of the import part were either done alone or with Hermione in it....

~Karen

Hello all, thought I'd throw my 2 cents in here.
Although I think H/H will get together, I dont think it will happen until book 7. Heres how I think it will go down. In book 6 Harry is going to be busy angsting over Sirius death and the prophecy. He will try to keep an emotional distance from everyone now that he thinks he must either commit murder or be murdered himself. By distancing himself from Ron and Hermione they will drawn together. Now I think we can all agree that Ron likes Hermione. This would be the perfect opportunity for him to ask her out. And I do think R/Hr has to happen in book 6. I keep going back to the JKR quote about Gof where she said everybody likes the wrong person. Harry liked Cho and we all saw how that ended. Ron has liked Hermione since at least the Yule Ball. I think he will finally get up the courage to ask her out in the next book and she will probably agree. Unlike many H/H shippers I think Hermione has feeling for both Harry and Ron. Harry is being oblivious so she will turn to Ron. I just dont see that ship lasting for more than a few months. R/Hr are not suited for a romantic relationship, in my opinion. They fight like cats and dogs as it is. Just imagine the arguments if they were dating! They would become much more personal and hurtful. They will quickly realize they make better friends than a couple. While all this is going on, Harry will still be isolating himself from them. Hermione wont put up with that for too long. She'll eventually confront Harry and drag the prophecy out of him. I can just picture them getting into a huge screaming match where he says he's driving her away to protect her and she blurts out she doesnt care about the danger because she loves him. This will happen after R/Hr has crashed and burned. Harry will be stunned at first but slowly start to realize his own feelings towards her. With both H/C and R/Hr sunken ships, H/H will be free to build a relationship in book 7.
Of course, this all just my opinion. And like the old saying goes, Opinions are like a certain body part we all possess. Everyone has one.

GreenDragn

GreenDragn do you really think that after what we saw at OotP, hermione will let harry get that isolated from her and ron? I cant picture her turning to ron and let harry behind...and after all what hermione said to ron through out this years and perhaps expectially in OotP, she will go out with him just like that!?

well I'm not telling that your opinion is wrong or nothing like that! I'm just saying that for once I could see hermione and ron going out IF the book5 wasnt how it was.

IMO H/R if was to happen it would be in book5...it didnt happen...time out! harry is the center of hermione's life, well IMHO he is, and she is too into him to let ron come and get her for a date. imagine all the regret hermione would feel thinking in what harry could do if he stays alone...

harry can be the savier of the wizard and the muggle world...but hermione will be harry's savier for sure.

I think Ron and Hermione will go together when another ball arrives but I think this is where a particularly interesting passage from OoTP will come into play. This Ron trying to get up to the girls dormitory to see Hermione.

He was on the sixth stair when it happened. There was a loud, wailing, klaxonlike sound and the steps melted together to make a long, smooth stone slide. There was a brief moment when Ron tried to keep running, arms working madly like windmills, then he toppled over backwards and shot down the newly created slide, coming to rest on his back at Harry's feet.

Then with Ron later feeling:

'I didn't realize that would happen. It's not fair!'

This is all from pg. 353, Chapt. 17 Educational Decree Number Twenty-Four.

In response to Care_de_Lua.

I think I might have benn a little unclear in my post. I dont see Harry distancing himself physically from Ron and Hermione. I think it will be more of an emotional distancing. He wont be getting on the train at Platform 9 3/4. and lock himself in a compartment all by himself. He'll still be around, he'll just seem detached. And I think, at this point in canon, Hermione has feelings for both Harry and Ron. And I really think thats why we didnt see any movement on the R/Hr front in OoTP. Ron gave her a pretty big hint with the perfume. Yet she's really done nothing to encourage him in his pursuit. Hermione seems to me to be the kind of person who would make her intentions known once she decided to she was more intersted in . She wouldnt just grab the guy she likes and plant a big wet one on him, but she would drop some pretty obvious clues his way. With Harry being distant and if Ron works up the guts to ask her out, I think theres a good chance she would agree. I just dont think it will last.

GreenDragn

well I didnt specify that harry would distance himself phys. I meant it too be both phys. and emoti.

and for me I dont see too hermione kissing one of the boys just like that (well, that would be extremely funny though ).

like someone said and I think it too...hermione is too...well...it wouldnt last with ron like you said and I think it wouldnt be that good for any of them a R/Hr relationship, even if it wont last for a week. hermione is too with herself (doesnt make sence I know... ) for dating ron.

I see hermione being "in top of harry" all the time next year. making all at her hand to not let him go away. and make ron do it too! I dont think ron will get that with a great pleasure coz I dont think ron have grown up like some people think. he didnt have nothing to be agry at...almost everything was taken from harry! ron had no reason to show that he was jealous of him...now we'll see how ron will handle with all the preocupation hermione will (I think this is for sure) demonstrate towards harry...yes...even more than til now.

Here's my thought:

Harry's non-platonic feelings for Hermione are going to develop even more in book 6, less subtly. They are already blossoming in OotP, in my opinion. And he's ultimately going to realize their existence in book 7. Hermione, I think, already knows about her feelings for him, so we only have to wait for our little oblivious Harry to wake up. Of course he can't do that right now, Sirius just died.

Yeah, I do see many possibilities for this precious couple to happen in canon.

I feel Harry will distance himself emotionally, become more secerative that he already is. He is in a moral crisis that he can't distract himslef with love, however love will play a role to help him defeat Voldie. Harry first has to make a decision of whether he will fight to the death and all the risks that it entails, then he will be able to grieve Sirius properly and move on with his life.

I just tryign to figure out a few things first since i see the story as a love story that include courtly love to idealized love. I want to know how Hermione fits in since in the Winter's tale she represent love without passion, dignity without pride, and tenderness without weakness. I also want to figure out the whole point of the Luna/Harry interaction of the miss possession and then turning up at the end. I think it is foreshadowing of what Harry is missing like James and Lily, Sirius somehow helping him in the end.


Ok stop rambling and thinking out, I completely agree that Harry needs work thru his loss(Book6) to realize his feelings first and H/Hr will take place in book 7.

a relationship between R/Hr even if it doesnt last for more than a week really doesnt get to me coz I dont like the idea of harry only realizing his true feelings for hermione that way!

hermione almost died in the last book and harry got all that numb feelings of cannot do a thing with the thought of hermione being dead...and he got near some realization I think.

what I'm trying to say is that I would not like a harry behaving like ron coz hermione is dating ron. i think it would be a bit well, too obvious, kind of, if harry would be like "yes, hermione is dating ron and I'm so jealous coz I finally found I love her".

I picture harry realization being a bit more dramatic you know. more like in the DoM when hermione almost passed off.

but this is just my opinion and you're free to have yourse of course

the one thing that really matters in the end is H/Hr being together in the final

Merging this with an older thread ~gal-texter

Heh... i'm so stupid.. couldn't find the older topic...

Anyways.

I like the Arguing Idea, but I like the Idea of Harry kissing Hermione. She's there going on and on about how he can't go off on his own, and he shouldn't blame everything on himself, and he should stop playing all hard done by, because it makes her feel awful too, and How does he think she feels when she sees him upset or depressed, it rips her heart out, and She wishes she could do something to help him, but he won't let her and -

KISS!


Then He gets all sheepish and apologises, stuttering and going red, and she jumps on him and kisses him back.

Thus Pumpkin Pie for all!

Either that, or he's sitting at home, and he's not got anything to do, so he's dwelling and brooding over what happened in the DoM. He's already depressed because he keeps going over and over in his mind about how he let all that happen, and how if it weren't for him, Sirius might not have died. Then he thinks of how hurt Hermione was. She could have died. He could have lost her. But, What would he do if he lost her? What would life be like without her? Terrible...

*insert angsty revelation here.*



As for the Two Girls Left for whom Harry could get with... do you really think Ginny is still in there? I mean, JK (Through Hermione) said that Ginny 'had given up' on Harry ages ago. Hey! Maybe the reason she gave up on Harry was because she knew she couldn't compete with Hermione! Ah... My shipper mind works in weird ways...


~#Epona#~

Hey! I don't think Harry and Hermione will get together in the 6th book, for some reason i have a feeling that it will be Hermione/Ron then in the 7th book it will be Harry/ hermione, don't ask me why, i just have this feeling.
Even though Ron gave her perfume, does Hermione actually wear it? i mean, we all know she doesn't like make up, doesn't that usually mean Perfume as well?
I'm a girl and i don't even know lol.
I'm so hoping that harry will be a lot more angerier in the next book! You saw how balistic he was at the end of the fifth book, so i have a really big feeling that he'll be a rebel in the next book, i so hope he does, it'll be great to see him get his own back on Draco, Snape and maybe even Fudge! Hermione will not let Harry distance himself, she'll just keep on nagging him to let her in (we all know how stubborn she can be!)
Ron and Hermione, i just can't see it for some reason, i know i should but i can't, Ron is more likely to go out with hermione because he'll have something that Harry doesn't, Luna is more better for him and Ron freaks out at the attention she gives him!
I think that Harry will slowly recongize his feelings for hermione duirng the summer and during 6th year but won't be able to label it, the dursley are not that loveable! Hermione is more likley to already know her feelings for Harry but won't tell him incase of ruining their relationship.
I would have said this
'Harry adn Hermione are facing the death eaters, Hermione was going to cast a spell when harry says something to her.
"Hermione, i'm going to face Voldemort, becareful, i love you!"
Hermione turns to face Harry
"What?" she asked then turned to face teh death eather. "Stop right there and don't even move a muscle!" she snapped, all the death eaters stopped and listen to the arguement. "After how many year? you fianlly tell me you love me?" she snapped'
I would have said that was going to happen if it was a comedy but don't think that will happen. (shrug)

I think that maybe there will be R/Hr in book 6, but i don't want to see that as a way of Harry realising his feelings for her. I mean, like Cara_de_Lua said, it would make him be too much of a prat, like Ron. I think he'll realise that there's something not-so-platonic with his relationship with Hermione at the beginning of the sixth book, but like so many people say, either not realise what it is, because lets face it, he hasn't had much experience in the 'love' area, has he? I mean, living without it for 14 years can't have been good...

Or, he will realise what it is, but either, like the loyal friend he is, think something like: 'But... Ron likes her too...' and not say anything, or he'll think: 'I really don't need this right now' and still not do anything. But I don't think he'll be able to hide it that well, you saw how he was with Cho. Everytime she passed him, he had a goofy smile on his face, everytime she smiled at him, he felt himself go red. I think it'll be a bit difficult with Hermione with him all the time to hide it. Heh, i can just imagine the scene now... sitting in a train compartment, Harry looking at Hermione, bright red, and she asks him what's wrong... lol.


~#Epona#~

I agree with Cdelight great great story!!! I love that!!! Its okay if you cant write love scenes!! Im sure you're really good at it!!


Ashleemac

After the GoF I might have believed that R/Hr would happen before H/Hr, but I don't anymore.

The way I see it, in GoF, Ron and Hermione both realized their feelings. Ron fancies Hermione and Hermione fancies Harry. In OotP while Harry was realizing that he didn't quite fancy Cho as much as he thought he did, Ron and Hermione were in a holding pattern. Hermione quickly ceases making any real move for Harry when she realizes that he's still hung up on Cho and Ron's feeble moves on Hermione are rebuffed (which is what eliminated the thought, IMO, that Hermione has any romantic feelings for Ron). Harry goes through what he has to go through with Cho and all the while his subconscious mind is featuring Hermione in a leading role. By the second half of the book his actions begin to reflect this. Then, when he's all set to have an epiphany after she nearly dies, his attention is diverted (as always) by Sirius actually dying.

In the sixth book, I think that Harry will, of course, be mourning, but, as JKR has indicated in her chat, his mind may eventually, perhaps even unwillingly, turn to romance once more. And I think that this time the romance will be in the form of him finally, finally, finally doing a long overdue and uninterrupted analysis of his feelings for Hermione.

I think there's a good chance that what will result from this is the Trio Triangle (perhaps because Harry gets that kiss). Following will be some sort of Trio split that won't be resolved until the seventh book.

So, I'm thinking that the sixth book will end with it fairly clear who likes who (to the readers and the characters) R-->Hr<-->H, but there may not be a complete H/Hr romantic relationship resolution until book seven.

Basically, I think even though our Pumpkins may not be officially together, it'll be quite obvious that it's what's going to happen by series end.

Well, you know, more obvious than it is now.

I completely agree with you SheWhoHathAPen that by the end of the sixth book it will be made pretty clear to the reader that R-->Hr<-->H, though I don't believe that their serious romantic relationship will bloom until after Hogwarts. I believe that they will pronounce their love for one another by the seventh book, but with the threat of Voldemort, I don't believe they'll officially get together. The reason I believe this is because in JKR's little biography thing on E!, she said that the she the last chapter of book 7 and the epilogue all ready completed, and it will include a little something about what happens to all the characters that survive. I guess you could say, I think it would be more fitting for the overall plot of the story to not have overfly fluffy moments between the two until after the defeat of Voldemort. I'm not saying that the two can't comfort each other or snog or anything like that during the last two books, but in terms of boyfriend/girlfriend, I think JKR will save all of the really juicy stuff for the epilogue.

i really hope that harry realizes his feelings for hermione the summer before he goes back to hogwarts for his 6th year. that would make for a very good beginning. but knowing jkr, i dont think she will make harry straight out say, "i like hermione!" i think it's gonna be more towards his thoughts and actions. like, he'll start to think about hermione more, or be touchy feely around her more. and that will make ron notice, and ask him if he likes hermione. then, harry will say, that indeed he does, like her. and i dont know about how ron is going to take that, but knowing ron's temper, he wont be so pleased. but i hope harry still reveals it to hermione, even if ron and him get into a row.

this is how i hope it happens.

My 2 cents, for what it's worth...

In book 6, Ron will try to get closer to Hermione. This will cause Harry to feel uncomfortable around them and he'll become moodier and sullen. Harry won't understand why he feels this way about his friends (let's face it, he's not the quickest on the uptake on these matters...) and he'll leave them alone a lot.

I also think we'll see Valdemort get stronger as Harry gets angrier, moodier and more sullen. We'll probably find out that the reason he is so quick to anger is that this, too, is something Valdemort passed to him.

By the end of the book, Hermione will tell Ron that she wants to "just be friends", as she has always liked somebody else. Then, I would't put it past JKR to have Hermione go to visit Krum in the summer. Harry may have even figured out that his conflicting emotions about Ron and Hermione is because he really likes Hermione.

In book 7, I think we'll see Hermione trying to get closer to Harry, but he's going to be thinking she likes Krum so he'll treat her pretty badly, at first. He may even say something to hurt her feelings and she'll write this to Krum who will come to visit her. Harry will be an arrogant a**, maybe even as bad as he had seen his father become at his age.

Voldemort will be very strong, now. Harry will try to get back into the DoM to see if he can contact Sirius behind the veil and will probably confront Voldemort there.

At the point where it looks like Valdemort will destroy them, Hermione will tell Harry that she's always loved him and he will know that he's always felt the same for her. This will unseal the room and release the force within (the power of love?) and Voldemort will be destroyed forever. Harry's scar will go away.

i semi agree. first i dont really think ron is going to make any real moves...Harry needs Hermione and their love is what will defeat voldemort imo. so really its not a matter of whether or not Harry realizes this but when he realizes it. i think krum is pretty much out of the picture and i doubt Harry would ever be an a** toward Hermione because he cares about her too much. the veil theory is pretty intriguing though. it sparks my interest. and im not really sure if ron and hermione will confront each other about their feelings...ron isnt real confident and hermione wouldnt want to crush him by saying she likes harry so well see how that plays out. in the end the only really important things is that harry and hermione will realize their feelings for each other and their love for each other will save the day.

Actually, I can see a misunderstanding between himself and Hermione and thats' why he's an a** to her. Maybe they'll break friends for a while for the first time ever, and that's when Harry will realise that he misses her, even more so than he missed Ron when Ron wasn't friends with him, and He'll wonder why, then he'll have one of those cheesy epiphany moments (I think, after avoiding all the cheese, JKR can have at lease ONE cheesy moment) and realise that it's because he really likes her, and when they try to become friends again, it' like I said before:

I think romantically Krum is more or less out of the picture. Sure she writes to him but if u had a friend u met at like summer camp you would still talk to them online or through e-mail wouldnt you? Its sort of the same thing. But there isnt a whole lot of proof Hermione ever felt the same way about Krum. She accepted his proposal to the Yule Ball and nothing more. Perhaps she was scared no one else would ask her or something, but romantically i dont think she ever liked krum that way.

The only reason I thought Krum might still be brought into the story is as Hermione's friend. It seems to me that she doesn't have anyone else to confide in, other than Harry and Ron. I doubt she would talk to Ginny about her feelings for Ron or Harry. She's still writing to him, so it's clear they formed some kind of friendship.

I also think that this would provide a reason for Harry to start realizing exactly what he is feeling towards Hermione. If he's jealous of Krum (or Ron for that matter) he might start to put 2+2 together and actually arrive at 4, which he seems to have trouble doing.

I also think JKR might not pass up on the opportunity to have Harry behave like his father did, thus allowing him to understand his father better, as well as himself.

Of course, this could all be way off base and we could just see a scene with Harry launching into another one of his angry tirades and Hermione just plants a big, wet kiss on him to shock him into reality... much like her spontaneous right jab into Malfoy's jaw.

Mod Note: Merged with a similar topic. Original title of this thread was How do you want H/Hr to happen?, How do you want it to happen?. ~Anazecria/Nielle

Okay I know everyone has their own opinion on this, so how do you want it to happen?
Me personally, I want it to be dramatic and romantic, that is what's most likely to happen since falling in love with one's friend isn't an easy thing. It can be akward at first, and you can be shy about it, so it wont be an easy thing.

I know some will be mad at me, but I want Hermione to go through something big, like being kidnapped, or going through another life threatening situation. Mostly because this might make Harry realize just how much Hermione means to him, like in DoM from OoP, or being petrified in CoS. I want something big to happen to make them realize how much they care about each other and how lost they'd be without each other.

So, how do you want it to happen?

How do I want it to happen?

Hmmm ... I think I would want to happen very softly, very quietly, like the way a cool afternoon rain brings a breath of freshness to a long, hot summer day, or the way the trees slowly cloak themselves in red-and-gold glory as autumn sets in. I would want it to be the slow, yet sure, realization of just how much this person has become a part of your life, how he (or she) has become the center of your world, how deeply you have come to care about his (or her) happiness, how his (or her) presence brings that unique sense of completion to your everyday life. Quiet things that speak of a gentle growth and an enduring strength.

I think that one of the most moving things in life is to wake up one morning to the quiet realization that you've learned to love your best friend. It's a realization that has the power to change your life, precisely because it comes unheralded. It leaves you speechless, and silent with awe, at how the landscape of your heart has changed, subtly yet powerfully. I can see it happening to Harry one fine day during the autumn term, with the three of them walking by the lake after a particularly trying morning at double Potions; the sky is a cloudless blue, the lake is a calm pearly-grey mirror, and the trees in the Forbidden Forest have just put on their autumn colors. Ron says something silly about Snape and his greasy hair, Hermione gives him a mock-frown and reminds him that Snape is on their side, and Harry, watching the quiet laughter in her eyes, slowly realizes just how much this young woman means to him. It'll be a thought that gradually takes shape in his mind, and as he realizes just what his thoughts are telling him, his heart gives a silent lurch, and then he knows, in his soul, that he loves his best friend.

In Harry and Hermione's case, both have learned to live their lives with a certain amount of emotional repression and independence -- in Harry's case, because of the dysfunctional family life he had with the Dursleys, and in Hermione's case, because of her very nature as an achiever. Hermione, as I have commented in previous posts, may already know in the depths of her heart just what she really feels towards Harry ... Harry, on the other hand, may be on the road to finally realizing exactly how much Hermione has become a part of his life. But both, being innately private persons with their own inner fears and insecurities, may approach this change in their relationship with "baby steps", tentatively exploring what they feel -- and attempting to find out what each feels about the other. Harry, as we all know, is very much a "greenhorn" when it comes to expressing his feelings to a girl, and Hermione may very well be afraid of openly displaying what she feels if she believes that Harry doesn't feel the same way towards her. Loving your best friend is one of the biggest gambles in life -- as the song goes, "you might win it all, or lose your heart."

I very much doubt that either one of them will say anything to each other about having "crossed the line" in Book 6, primarily because the battle against Voldemort will surely be everyone's top priority. But I am reasonably sure that we can expect to "see" the aura of suppressed intensity between them growing ever stronger in Book 6 -- something that Ron may finally have to acknowledge.

Aw darn, I'm rambling again ... better shut up now!

Peace to all!

McG
- Who wishes that for once, just once, she could get her thoughts together in three sentences! -

Mod Note Moved this topic from the H/Hr Archive and merged this post here ~Mirtilla



this is my first-time starting a thread in this forum, so if i did anything wrong or broke any rules, please let me know.

anyway, the reason i started this thread is because i recently rewatched POA and something just occurred to me about what jk rowling might possibly write into the books. i remember seeing a thread on "who would say it first" between harry and hermione that's a little relevant to what i was thinking, but i couldn't seem to find it, so i decided to start a new thread.

so here goes:

given that we all know that romance is mainly a subplot to the main plot of the stories, i personally don't see harry going to hermione and saying "i just realised that i love you" or hermione going to harry and bashing him in the head simply because he's too dull to notice that she really cares very deeply for him ( ok, i'm a h/hr shipper, so please don't bash me simply because you ship otherwise -- i'm simply speculating here, so there's a chance that i'm wrong. but still, i think it's fun discussing these things).

so my theory is that they wouldn't say anything to each other, but that they'd just realise it, through their actions, especially in instances under extreme pressure/threat of dire consequences.

going back to book 3 (POA), i remember vaguely (sorry... i don't have the books with me, so i'm going by memory) that harry first produced a feasible pratonus when he thinks of winning the quidditch cup, no? in the movie version, he does this by thinking of the time he sat talking to his parents for hours in front of the mirror of erised (i think this is far more poignant than the book though). also, in book 5 (OOTP), harry's memories tend to run from hermione stuck in the hospital wing coughing up furballs or petrified etc... (i know he also has memories of himself being bullied by dudley and mrs weasley and her boggart, but it's not really relevant here) whenever snape carried out the lessons on occlumency.

so given all of the above (and also given that we could almost predict that the dementors will side with lord voldemort in the future books), what if in book 6 & 7, when the gang is attacked by dementors, harry just couldn't find it in him to summon up a happy thought because nothing happy ever seems to be happening to him anymore. and what if he goes from seeing sirius lying there dead to hermione lying there unconscious/dead etc and he just couldn't, for all his life, summon up a strong happy thought -- and hermione comes to the rescue, and finds a harry that's suddenly very conscious of what he dreads, and realising that he never did quite worry so much about ron as he did about hermione? ( i know, i'm going on with a lot of "what ifs" -- so sorry... )

well, that's just my two cents. i could be dead wrong, but this is how i think it might happen.

happy shipping, everybody!


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I really like the way you put that. I completely agree.

An uninterrupted analysis of his feelings for Hermione is indeed long overdue. He's gone too long without actually THINKING about the possibility, even though people around him keep on bringing it up.

The time will come... hopefully...

In response to the subject of this thread, how I want Harry and Hermione to get together; honestly, I don't care. As long as they do, I don't care how JKR writes it.

Hello all, I'm new, but I wanted to add my idea of how Harry and Hermione might get together.

I think it would be grand if in HBP, when Harry sees Hermione for the first time, he braces himself for her notoriously tight embraces, but only gets a quick/lite hug. This would get Harry thinking somethings changed. It would be interesting if we see Hermione pull away from Harry -physically - during the first part of the book. She would still be his friend, still very concerned about him and how his is handling the loss of Sirius, but when she sees that he gets the physical comfort he needs from the Weasleys, she pulls back.

I can imagine a couple of scenes in which he wonders where she is. I can imagine him getting frustrated quickly at her constant absence and barking at Ron, Ginny and others asking where she is. I can imagine him finding her, or waiting for her and yelling at her because she hasn't been around enough. I believe that Harry will realize his feelings for Hermione when she is not so readily available to him as she has been.

I expect Harry to be open about his feelings for Hermione. He was open with Cho: he asked her to the Yule Ball in GoF, invited her to Hogmeade in OotP, and even said he would have told her he fancied her if he know that's what she was worried about. I realize he is not usually open with people, but I don't think he's savy enough to deal with girls in any way other than straight forward. I also think he IS brave enough to go after what he wants/needs. Therefore, I believe once he realizes his feelings, he will act on them rather than sulk. He is a passionate kid, and I believe he is already rather passionate his feelings for about Hermione and the Weasley's. I don't expect his feelings for Hermione to be a source of pain or even confusion, though he will be confused about her feelings.

I hope while confronting Hermione about her absence, he will realize why he misses her, and tell her. I believe they will be interupted, but snogging should happen before the end of HBP. I don't expect either of them to realize they are in love until the last book. I expect their love to have a serious implications in the last book.

By the way, BIG THANKS to everyone at Portkey. As I impatiently await July 16, this site has been my salvation.

Paisley

For me, I think H/Hr getting together will be some dramatic and romantic thing or it will be done more shyly. OF course I wouldn't mind if they get together in a fashion similar to the one Desaix wrote in his story here "Brides of Power"

Note: 'Brides of Power' is a NC-17 fic so you minors better not read it. There. That is my token warning to the minors.

Hmm... I suppose that H/Hr would happen in a dramatic but romantic way. Since the plot is already getting deeper and more serious, their lives would eventually be at stake. There would be tears shed and realizations will be revealed.

Still, i'm quite sure that JK would present Harry's real love in the last book as she always loved teasing us. So maybe, H/Hr might happen in book 7 through a dramatic approach by Rowling.

P.S. english is not my native language so i apologize for my grammar.

I reckon they''d either be shy about it, and it would happen all fluffy and romantic, like they're sitting up late one night, and something happens which leads them into an awkward position, then they just kiss. *squee!*

Or they'll be fighting, and Hermione'll be shouting about Harry blocking everyone else out, and he'll just kiss her to make her quiet. Lol.

*prepares defensive shield*

I myself would like Harry and Hermione to get angry at each other during the summer before their last year at hogwarts.

Sixth year starts, another adventure takes place, but somehow they end up yelling at each other.

*expects ferocious blasts from everyone*

Then, both of them getting the cold treatment from the other, only then would Harry realize that he cannot go on like that and he needs her BADLY and he went six whole years without seeing just what was right under his nose.

Then they'd get all mushy and stuff, but Lord Voldemort would strike and they'd be separated, only to reunite at the very end.