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vanillapuf
Mod Note: Edited the topic title. Original title was Silly Observation, comparisons... ~Anazecria/Nielle 07/10/2004

09/10/2004: Merged with a similar thread listed below. ~Anazecria/Nielle

-- Something in CoS, I hadn't noticed

I've brought this up with my close H/HR friends, but I'd like to see what you all think of it.

Have you ever noticed the similarity between Harry & Hermione and Percy & Penelope's names?

Percy and Penelope start with the same letter - P. So do Harry and Hermione -only with H.
Percy has 2 syllables and ends with Y. So does Harry.
Penelope has 3 syllables and ends with an phonetic E. So does Hermione.

This is just a fun little observation. It probably doesn't mean anything, but it's funny to think about "foreshadowing", heehee.

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brittmizit
if percy and penelope end up together, i'm going to remember this thread.

good ovservationns!!!
steel lily
...and Penelope and Hermione both have curly hair...

...and they're both studious (well, Penny's a Ravenclaw)...

...and Percy and Harry both have glasses...

Ooo.

*loves the foreshadowing*

~Nell
Cristina_1106
bRiTtMiZiT, Percy and Penelope have been going out since the 2nd book.

vanillapuf I do hope this is foreshadowing. wub.gif Good observation! thumbup.gif

~Cristy~
happy_daze
Whoa...the freaky similarities there are! I haven't heard much of Penelope since Book III...I sure hope that both of them are still together if this is in any way a form of foreshadowing biggrin.gif
Godric
I think we're reading into this a bit too much, but still, they are odd similarities....
Starlight623
But reading into things can be fun! biggrin.gif

Cool observation, vanillapuf! Maybe it doesn't mean anything, but let's just hope it's true! wub.gif
Euro
heart.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif Cool observation. I like it. Hermione and Harry are just simply the best couple. tongue.gif laugh.gif
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meme30
omg i wish we could get this out .i wont to put it right in j.krowlings face and say see you may think other wise but h/hr belong togather your heart.gif is telling you but your trying to over rule it with your mind.
Kalie
Hmmm...I've never noticed those comparissons before. Great observations. Let's hope it plays out as foreshadowing *crosses fingers*
SweetSolitude1377
I never thought about this fact before, lol. And I think it's very funny, but in a good way. Definately grasping at straws... but you never know! biggrin.gif

I kinda made a observation of my own, as silly as it is. Well, I don't know when I thought of this but there names said in a short little sentence makes a cute little poem sorta thing.
Harry and Hermione;
they are meant to be. (It kind of rhymes with the "e" sound, doesn't it?)

I know how umbelievably stupid that is blush.gif , but oh well, every one is a little crzy at times... right?

SweetSolitude1377 wub.gif
Aya
Ahh all of you are just so cute!

That's a good observation! Maybe Hermione/Harry will be prefects? Hmmm....

Does anyone know if Percy/Penelope are still together? I didn't hear it mentioned alot in Book 4.

Love always,
Aya
meme30
QUOTE (SweetSolitude1377 @ May 20 2003, 11:11 PM)
I never thought about this fact before, lol. And I think it's very funny, but in a good way. Definately grasping at straws... but you never know! biggrin.gif

I kinda made a observation of my own, as silly as it is. Well, I don't know when I thought of this but there names said in a short little sentence makes a cute little poem sorta thing.
Harry and Hermione;
they are meant to be. (It kind of rhymes with the "e" sound, doesn't it?)

I know how umbelievably stupid that is blush.gif , but oh well, every one is a little crzy at times... right?

SweetSolitude1377 wub.gif

harry and hermione are ment to be
to live togather in perfect harmony
to have and to hold
we watch in aww as their destiny unfolds.
and we sit and giggle and let a smug show
for we knew truth the truth be told.

i know im stupid but hey i was board.the first line harry and hermione are ment to be does not belong to me it belongs to sweetsolidtude1377.give that to r/hr shippes on second thought dont. blush.gif
Mika
Well, that's it, isn't it? It's just meant to be. lol... Pretty cool if it is foreshadowing. *joins the crossing fingers group*

-Mika
purple_mud
Wow! What an excellent observation! I am now officially joining this Crossing Fingers Group!

I'm quite amazed at how everyone here seems to notice the smallest details! I LOVE IT! I mean I haven't in my wildest dreams thought of that connection. And afetr reading it I'm like: Damn! That's one hell of a discovery!

And grasping at straws is one of my favorite hobbies.

I am going to spread this around to all of my friends... I mean, most would not really give this a second thought, but my R/Hr are all standing on shaky grounds right now and I would just love to see the look on their face once I tell them about this! I'm going to say that this is one of the many too-subtle hints that they fail to see! LOL...

Speaking of which... I have no officially converted two of my friends! Yay! Go me! LOL...

OFF TOPIC: We should start this thread where all the people we have successfully convereted gives their testimony on why they have left their, ehem, sinking ship... hehehe... I'm going to bug my friend right now to write down her testimony!

And, uhm, right... I've completely gone mad...

H/Hr Rules!
Liz R.
Me being obsessed with the Fan fics by Mena Baines, that kind of scares me. See, in 'Hermione's Holiday Part 2' Penny and Percy are supposed to be getting married. But an hour before their wedding, Hermione figures out Penny has been cheating on Percy with George all along and doesn't even love Percy, but doesn't have the heart to tell him... sad.gif
vanillapuf
Well thanks for ruining it for us, Liz! tongue.gif

Actually, I can't imagine who would ever cheat on Percy-poo. I lurv him to death. He's my fav Weasley.
brittmizit
Christina_1106-i know they got together in the 2nd book, but we don't acctually know if they're still together.

soory, buti have to join the crossed-fingers group. *crosses fingers*
Cristina_1106
Can I join the bandwagon?
*crosses fingers*

Anyways, bRiTtMiZiT, I thought that you meant that you hoped they would get together. BTW, you spelled my name wrong its Cristina_1106, not
Chr
istina_1106

~Cristy~
mexican girl
Mod Note: Merged from original Thread Topic Something in CoS, I hadn't noticed. ~Anazecria/Nielle 09/10/2004

Just chek this part please....

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Percy Weasley was sitting in a chair behind Lee, but for once he didn't seem keen to make his views heard. He was looking pale and stunned.
"Percy's in shock," George told Harry quietly. "That Ravenclaw girl - Penelope Clearwater - she's a prefect. I don't think he thought the monster would dare attack a prefect."
But Harry was only half-listening. He didn't seem to be able to get rid of the picture of Hermione, lying on the hospital bed as though carved out of stone.


Percy was abscent because Penelope was attacked and was his girlfriend
Then harry was abscent because Hermione was attacked.....and.......

Could that be a clue???

And I also noticed something... Percy and Penelope start with the same letter... no need to say anything else, is there?
Facade
I don't think that was intended by its cute. That little concept, both names start with the same letter.
jackryan411
Yup...that's cool....vanillapuff also pointed out all these things between Percy and Penelope and Harry and Hermione (you already said the same letters for both couples) one:

Percy and Harry end with the same letter.
They both have two syllables in their name.
Hermione and Penelope end with the same letter.
They both have four syllables in their name.

Cool, eh? I don't know if there are more...but it certainly is interesting.
HarHermlove4ever
yeh..but Percy turn out to be Tracer and betrayed Harry...in Ootp. So i don't think..you should connect Percy and what her named..to Harry/Hermione. I don't think...that is cute at all. Sorry..being unhappy camper here. wub.gif
pnkrkprincess91
Yeah, Percy was a git, but the similarities between Harry/Hermione and Percy/Penelope do speak well for our ship.

AML
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manddy
I love little connections like that! wub.gif
Kalie
I have indeed noticed that. I think I remember someone bringing it up several months ago before OotP. I can't remember which thread that was. Hmm...I'm feeling a bit nostalgic. I may go back to a few of the old threads and check them out *lol*
jackryan411
Lol, Kalie, nostalgia is a good thing to have...yeah, vanillapuf was telling me about it...she, you, and Tisty are the coolest Mods ever! Sorry, I had to say that... whistling.gif
KaiserDragon
I'm not sure I like this comparison. Didn't Percy turn into a prick during OotP?
DreamerBlue
QUOTE (KaiserDragon @ Sep 7 2003, 08:08 AM)
I'm not sure I like this comparison. Didn't Percy turn into a prick during OotP?

::Snorts::
Harry/Hermione 4eva
QUOTE (KaiserDragon @ Sep 7 2003, 08:08 AM)
I'm not sure I like this comparison. Didn't Percy turn into a prick during OotP?

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!! Thats funny!!!! laugh.gif
pnkrkprincess91
Yeah, he did turn into a prick, but like I said before, that link might mean that JKR has a tendancy to pair people with similar names and the like. Either way, I really, trully doubt that she would turn Harry into that pompous a jackass by book 7. It hasn't shown any signs of happening yet, right?

AML
~*kt*~
karenkate_kitty
yup th name connection is cute but I really doubt whether Harry would be in anyway like Percy... well, but there names do sound the same and Hermione's and Penelope's do too.... Well, let's just hope for the best.. wait.. do you guys have any idea if Percy and Penelope are still together.. I mean she wasn't mentioned in OotP
jackryan411
Yeah, I wonder if they are...she wasn't mentioned in Book 4 either. Of course the whole point is that their names are almost the same...not that THEY are the same.
HarHermlove4ever
pnkrkprincess91 didn't Harry being "Jackass" in Book 5. I mean in good "Jackass" kind of way...and i don't think he is being pompous. He is not being prick like Percy...i hope NOT!!
jackryan411
Percy is a loser...he really infuriated me in this book. So...so...so...I can't even describe it...annoying? Loser-like? Snobbish? Stupid?
mexican girl
I also hate percy. but like you all said, it doesn't mean that Harry will turn out to be Percy-ish.

Tell me what you think about the first part, when percy is abscent because the basilisc attacked penelope and harry is abscent because the basilisc atacked Hermione...

And besides, why did the basilisc attacked this two people at the same time???

Sorry, not making sense as usual.....
Harry/Hermione 4eva
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And besides, why did the basilisc attacked this two people at the same time???


I just think it's cause they were together. I'm not sure though! innocent.gif

I didn't like Percy from the begining, but now I HATE him!!!! He's a HUGE PLEB!!!! Argh!!! Percy annoys me sooo much!
To tell you the truth, Harry annoyed me a bit in book 5 too! I know he had the right to be angry, but what had Mione done? He didn't have to be so mean to her did he? rolleyes.gif
xcandix
OMG I didn't even notice that!! That's great for our ship. :-)(-:
jackryan411
I didn't mind him getting mad at 'Mione a little bit...'cause it was funny to hear all the R/Hr shippers say how 'Harry and Hermione fight too much'. I was just like '*cough* I thought fighting showed sexual tension *cough*.' Lol...he was kinda mean to her...argh, am I the only one who wished he had talked to Hermione after everyone else left after Ron was made a prefect. I was thinking, "Yes, major H/Hr scene!" but he just kinda works it out by himself...made me feel disappointed.
mexican girl
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, am I the only one who wished he had talked to Hermione after everyone else left after Ron was made a prefect. I was thinking, "Yes, major H/Hr scene!" but he just kinda works it out by himself...made me feel disappointed.


Me too!! I just wished he apologized to her, and calm down a bit. It was kind of funny, but I was like "Huh, what happened to sweet, quiet Harry?" I would have gotten angry at him if he ever yelled at me for something like that......
DreamerBlue
Percy's a bitch! ::GASPS:: Did I swear? No! I did not! Not me! So not true... blah blah blah tongue.gif Too much cafine in one day...

Dreamer~
HarHermlove4ever
mexican girl where did you read that part?..where Basilik kill two people in one.
matter of fact...i don't remember at all..that Basilik attacked Percy or Peneople..(whoever!) at all.

yeh..I wish..Harry would talked to Hermione about how he is feel.."About her/Ron being perfect" but then again..I don't think Harry want to tell her about it..because he dont' want her to feel sorry for him.
Tone
I got annoyed w/ harry in book five. -dodges tomatoes- I'm sorry but come on, it's called ANGER MANAGEMENT here people. I know he had a right to be pissed off, I would be too, but jeeze it was like a series of temper tantrums, which resulted in him throwing dumbledores stuff! -takes deep breath- though he had a right to that tantrum too with Sirius dieing and all... still it kinda urked me how this whole new rebelious teen thing sort of jumped out to surprise us... -dodges more tomatoes- i hope i didnt gain hundreds of enemy's for this now
mexican girl
QUOTE (HarHermlove4ever @ Sep 8 2003, 11:59 AM)
mexican girl where did you read that part?..where Basilik kill two people in one.
matter of fact...i don't remember at all..that Basilik attacked Percy or Peneople..(whoever!) at all.


They didn't die!! The two persons attacked were Penelope (Percy's girlfriend) and Herm (Harry's....... whistling.gif )


What I wanted you to answer was, that if you think there was some symbolism?? Sorry, stupid question... don't botter to answer.... biggrin.gif
KaiserDragon
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mexican girl where did you read that part?..where Basilik kill two people in one. matter of fact...i don't remember at all..that Basilik attacked Percy or Peneople..(whoever!) at all.



The Basilisk didn't KILL anyone. He petrified BOTH Penelope and Hermione.

I didn't mind Harry yelling at Hermione or such. It proves that Harry is still human, there can still be some problems in a relationship, (I personally believe if couples don't fight OCCASIONALLY, there's something wrong with the couple.), but they have the strength and thoughtfullness to see it to end and still care for one another. There is no such thing as a "Flawless Relationship", but in can be perfect in their eyes, and their eyes only, even with the "once in a while spat". biggrin.gif

Like when Harry was about to break into Umbridge's office a second time.

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Even through his anger and impatence, Harry recognized Hermione's offer to accompany him into Umbridge's office as a sign of solidarity and loyalty.



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Me too!! I just wished he apologized to her, and calm down a bit. It was kind of funny, but I was like "Huh, what happened to sweet, quiet Harry?" I would have gotten angry at him if he ever yelled at me for something like that......


Sweet kind Harry grew up. That's about it. He now has hormones, TEENAGE ones at that, trauma from Voldemort's resurrection, and now, on top of a Dark Lord stalker after him, he's targeted by the ministry to see him expelled (Or killed since Umbridge sent dementors after him.) Most people at the school thinks he's loon, Dumbledore wasn't guiding him this year, Snape being an ass (more so than usual), O.W.L.s this year, the quiditch ban, Hadrid's problems... HELL!!! If JKR didn't write up Harry the way she did, I'll go to the Vatican and nominate Harry for Sainthood! Cause even a Nun's gonna lose it! Snapping a Hermione once or twice is nothing.

What the best of all it was, Hermione stood by him, CALMLY, COOLY, and with a dignity few have. She didn't go all to tears, or snap back, or push him like anyone else. Just calm him down and helped him with his problems one step at a time. She UNDERSTOOD. THAT there makes Hermione really awesome for Harry!

P.S. If it was Ron yelling at her, the arguement would have been heard down in Hogmead I'll bet! Ron nips at the little or petty problems, Harry goes for the important stuff which Hermione looks at too.
mexican girl
Yeah... I know... but Herm hadn't do anything, he obviously had loads of problems, and maybe snapping Herm once or twice was the normal thing, but the fair thing was that he apologized to her......
pnkrkprincess91
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but the fair thing was that he apologized to her......


Too true. And hey, when has Ron ever apologized with out being pushed into it?

AML
~*kt*~
jackryan411
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What the best of all it was, Hermione stood by him, CALMLY, COOLY, and with a dignity few have. She didn't go all to tears, or snap back, or push him like anyone else. Just calm him down and helped him with his problems one step at a time. She UNDERSTOOD. THAT there makes Hermione really awesome for Harry!


Yup, that was the most important thing. She always stood by him and always said, "That's quite all right," with dignity. She didn't go crazy and start fighting like she would with Ron. Yeah, Ron's never apologized to her and Harry does it a lot (good old Harry)... biggrin.gif
mexican girl
H/Hr-ers 646431313548789756412312345487465423... (to the infinite and beyond)
R/Hr-ers 0


Take that R/Hr-ers!!!!!
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Sorry!!!
karenkate_kitty
I think with all that Harry had been through he had all the right to bash Dumbledore's office... besides he felt all betrayed... the people that he thought would be there for him or would answer his questions were way out of sight. Now... tell me if you wouldn't be pissed of not to mention the fact that an evil wizard who had been after his throat since he was a baby just killed the most important person in his life....(Sirius)... I was surprised he didn't kill Voldemort himself.. Actually the fact that he's gworing up an all horminal finally gave him a vent to let his anger out.... I don't approve of how he acted towards people but that's the only way he knew how.....he didn't grow up in a nice loving environment as everyone else had... He's almost like Tom growing up and hating the place he lived in... only in Harry's case when given the right reasoning he softened a bit and got back to his senses. I admire Hermione in Book Five. like most of you said.... among everyone Harry was wide she's pretty much the one with the clear head. and I find Luna rather lucky among all of them.... she hardly got a scratch... well, yah she did get hurt.... Anyway.... I think if indeed Harry would try to move away from ron and Hermione.... I think they would still be by his side no matter what...
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