BlackRose_Granger
Aug 12 2004, 11:22 PM
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~BecCouplings that remind me of H/Hr:
1. Tai/Sora- from da anime Digimon{da whole comfortable around eachother, best friends, trusting, caring relationship they had}
2. Dawson/Joey- from Dawson's Creek{same reason as tai/sora}
3. Kei/Koishi- from da anime Onegai Teacher or Please Teacher{besides the fact that he married his teacher who's an alien; Kei and Koishi had a trusting close friendship... plus Kei wore glasses}
4. Shuuya/Noriko- from the Jap. movie Battle Royale{protects Noriko with his life... even if it meant killing his friends}
5. Kawada/Keiko- from Battle Royale{same as above... only it ended real badly...}
6. Corey/Topanga- Boy Meets World
out of all of it... Tai and Sora reminds me the most of H/Hr
~~BlackRose~~
hoki poki choki chip
Aug 13 2004, 11:45 PM
I rarely watched Dawson's Creek much, but I always thought that Dawson and Joey were perfect too!
A couple that reminds me of H/Hr is Fox/Marie from the book Exodus by Julie Bertagna. When they first met, it was over the "Weave"- the wreaked remains of the internet. Marie was unaware that Fox was her chance to save her people on a drowning island. When they first met, they had an instant bond that kept them inseparable and eventually started a revolt- Marie being the brains and Fox being the one to carry out the technical tasks (this story is set in the future, by the way.) They fell in love and found it unbearable to say goodbye so that they could carry out the revolt- for Marie to save her people.
Also, Fox was very rich and had connections, so there's another similarity.
HonestAbe
Aug 14 2004, 12:29 PM
The shuya/noriko pairing from battle royal is a fairly good paralell to H/Hr. I forget their names, but also the pairing in battle royal between the martial arts guy (the guy with the tracker as his weapon) and the athelete girl that he's trying to find.
green hera
Aug 14 2004, 03:10 PM
Another couple that remind me of H/Hr is Calvin/Meg from the Wrinkle in Time series. He's popular and the such, like Harry, and she's very self-conscious of her looks, like Hermione. But they both think on the same wavelength and they're best friends.
BlackRose_Granger
Aug 14 2004, 09:32 PM
The martial arts guy from Battle Royale??? Ohh... well he wasn't a martial arts guy in the movie not like in the manga... but he had a tracker as his weapon. That would be Hiroki. And the girl he was looking for{though not the one he is in love with} was Chigusa. I guess they're a little like H/Hr. >.< Now I wanna watch the movie again!! LOl.
~~BlackRose~~
Danny2004
Aug 14 2004, 09:58 PM
Now that I'm interested into comparing H/Hr with another couple, I would say that the Van Fanel/Hitomi Kanzaki pairing in Vision of Escaflowne came in mind to me. Van has lost his parents when he was very young (sounds familiar?), and he only keep little memories of them. He is quite rushing in almost all things when fighting, he needs Hitomi's help in order to predict the enemies' next move the same way Harry would need Hermione's knowledge to find the hint to solve a serious problem or enigma. Hitomi is a very clever girl, she thought herself to be a normal girl until she discovers her power to see the future (like Hermione didn't know she's a wizard until she received Hogwarts' letter), but often finds herself into trouble and is always saved by Van. Both Van and Hitomi had a hard time to know their feelings for each other even though they get more comfortable around each other as the stories progresses, but they finally realized their love at the end.
xander127
Aug 14 2004, 11:14 PM
I have to totaly agree with you on the the tai/sora thing ive been a taiora fan for a very long time it was actually that pairing that got me into fanfiction where i later dicovered h/hr. When i saw the ep where she got with matt instead of tai i was so p***** off

but hey thats what fanfiction is for right. Same thing goes for h/hr if it doesnt happen theres always portkey and its wonderful authors.
Anyway just telling you i defiantly agree with the resemblance between the two pairs the loving caring friendship that can easily turn to love. (too bad sora went for the other bestfriend instead of the tai.....dam that matt)
Anyway im getting to much into my digimon fan side now better shutup before i go to far.
Danny2004
Aug 15 2004, 06:49 PM
So as for me! I also shipped the Tai/Sora pairing for a very long time and I was devastated when I saw Tai making Sora to end up with Matt

. I thought Tai to be better aware of his relationship with Sora.
When I think of that, I always wish that the same fate won't happen with H/Hr

. About strong loving caring friendship turning into love, I believe in it because that kind of friendship is the main foundation a relationship needs until blossoming into lasting love.
Love needs a strong caring friendship at the beginning for it to last.
BlackRose_Granger
Aug 15 2004, 07:14 PM
Don't say love and friendship when u mention Tai, Sora, and Matt lol. Remember who carried the crests of Love, Friendship, and Courage?? Sora had Love, Matt had friendship, and Tai had courage?? Well when I think of Harry, Hermione, and Ron; I see H is courage, Hr is Love, and R is friendship. I'm weird... I know lol.

And I agree, I hope H/Hr won't have the same fate as Taiora did. Hehe and Taiora was also the reason I got in fanfics.
Hmmmm.... other couples that reminds me of H/Hr??? Ummm... Squall and Rinoa?? Cloud and Tifa??? All the Final Fantasy couples?? lol.
smuggled_muggle
Aug 16 2004, 10:49 AM
Has anyone here seen the movie, "The Village" by M. Night Shyamalan? The main couple in that movie kind of reminded me of Harry and Hermione. Lucius Hunt and Ivy Walker had so much in common with Harry and Hermione. Lucius was a very silent young man, kind of shy, kind of like Harry. Ivy was the most capable and the smartest girl in the village, who wouldn't stop talking. They are good friends, and whenever there was danger in the village, Lucius always reached for Ivy's hand to pull her into safety. Kind of reminded me of Harry's behaviour towards Hermione in the OotP.
It might have been my shippyness, but as I watched that movie, I couldn't help but scream "Harry and Hermione!" in my head. I hope someone here has seen that film, too, and can share what they think.
Mayumi
Aug 16 2004, 02:37 PM
| QUOTE |
| Hmmmm.... other couples that reminds me of H/Hr??? Ummm... Squall and Rinoa?? Cloud and Tifa??? All the Final Fantasy couples?? lol. |
Haha... you read my mind! Cloud and Tifa really remind me of H/Hr because they were both best friends and they complement eachother the same way H/Hr do. Tifa is kind of like the mother figure of the group and and is the one that thinks things through like Hermione is. Cloud (my avatar!

) isn't much like Harry except he's and orphan and their relationships to the villains are quite similar (now that i think about it... Voldemort and Sephy are really similar o.o) Plus, the Highwind scene at the end of the game reminded me of Harry and Hermione flying on the Hippogryph at the end of PoA. Lol, now I have a mental image of Harry dressing in drag to rescue Hermione from an evil pimp

(FF fans know what I'm talking about)
How does Squall and Rinoa remind you of Harry and Herm?
Other than this I don't really see it o.o Seifer and Fujin remind me more of H/Hr, lol

But there was this one part of FF8 where Seifer went all evil and stuff and Fujin was saying how what he was doing was wrong and stuff and Seifer realizes her loyalty to him and says something like 'It's been fun.' That reminded me of the arguement of saving Sirius in OotP where Harry recognizes Hermione's loyalty to him

P.S. I was so sad that Sora ended up with Yamato aswell

Though, personality wise, Yamato was more like Harry and Taichi was more like Ron... that's just my opinion though
hermione13
Aug 16 2004, 02:42 PM
| QUOTE (Mayumi @ Aug 16 2004, 10:37 PM) |
| QUOTE | | Hmmmm.... other couples that reminds me of H/Hr??? Ummm... Squall and Rinoa?? Cloud and Tifa??? All the Final Fantasy couples?? lol. |
Haha... you read my mind! Cloud and Tifa really remind me of H/Hr because they were both best friends and they complement eachother the same way H/Hr do. Tifa is kind of like the mother figure of the group and and is the one that thinks things through like Hermione is. Cloud (my avatar!  ) isn't much like Harry except he's and orphan and their relationships to the villains are quite similar (now that i think about it... Voldemort and Sephy are really similar o.o) Plus, the Highwind scene at the end of the game reminded me of Harry and Hermione flying on the Hippogryph at the end of PoA. Lol, now I have a mental image of Harry dressing in drag to rescue Hermione from an evil pimp  (FF fans know what I'm talking about) |
Thats exactly what i was thinking. Even the whole evil pimp part...

(gosh i can picture it...Im sure Harry would love the HunnyBee in...lol) Cloud/Harry and Tifa/Hermione are just apart of each other...I think Tifa is like Hermione in the way that she realizes she had feelings for Cloud/ Harry (I think hermione knows she likes harry) and she just tries not to do anything about them and Cloud/Harry is really oblivious to the whole thing...
BlackRose_Granger
Aug 16 2004, 07:34 PM
| QUOTE |
| P.S. I was so sad that Sora ended up with Yamato aswell Though, personality wise, Yamato was more like Harry and Taichi was more like Ron... that's just my opinion though |
Yes, u're right. Matt is more like Harry and Tai was more like Ron... but none personality wise Taiora was a spitting image of H/Hr. But that's just my opinion too lol.

And u're also right... Sephy reminds me alot of Voldie.
~~BlackRose~~
xander127
Aug 17 2004, 12:01 AM

Yeah matt was more mature though a bit lonerish, where as taichi was more a fairly immature sport loving guy like ron but its his loving and caring friendship with sora that gives me the impression of h/hr.
I also have to agree with the cloud/tifa thing(ff7 is my overall fav game of all time)
they have such a great friendship that can easily turn to love and we might actually be able to see it happen to because square-enix is making a sequell called FFVII-2: advent children for dvd.(

just imagine it FFVII on the big screen *drools*)

LOL anyway im blabbing again.
hermione13
Aug 17 2004, 01:29 PM
| QUOTE |
| I also have to agree with the cloud/tifa thing(ff7 is my overall fav game of all time) |
Ahhh me two!!
| QUOTE |
they have such a great friendship that can easily turn to love and we might actually be able to see it happen to because square-enix is making a sequell called FFVII-2: advent children for dvd.( just imagine it FFVII on the big screen *drools*)
LOL anyway im blabbing again. |
What? omg! thats so cool! lol sorry but yeah whenever I play FFVII i just think im seeing Harry and HErmione becasue of how much they are alike!
Mayumi
Aug 17 2004, 07:04 PM
Yeah... I've been keeping a sharp eye out for AC info for the past year, lol

I hope Cloud picks Tifa...

Yeah, I agree that Cloud is like HArry because he is so oblivious to relationships

A friend of mine said that 'I allways imagined Tifa and Aeris having this very obvious rivalry over Cloud's affections and he's in the meanwhile is thinking about pizza or something.' Plus, Rufus and Draco are pretty much the same character in different universes, so more FF7 - HP prallels

I also find the Cecil-Rosa-Kain situation similar to the Harry-Hermione-Ron situation (from FF4) Cecil, Rosa and Kain are all childhood friends like H/Hr/R. Rosa is in love with Cecil, but he cannot return her affections because he is a Dark Knight and can't forgive himself for his sins. Hermione is in love with Harry but he doesn't realize her feelings for him (that boy needs a smack in the head sometimes!

) Kain is in love with Rosa and is EXTREMELY jelous of Cecil. Ron has a crush on Hermione and is jelouse of Harry. Kain betrays Cecil numerous times in the game and turns evil (I hope this doesn't happen to Ron!

) When Cecil becomes a paladin he realizes he loves Rosa and they kiss and stuff

Kain (at this point) is a good guy and is very uncomfortable with either of them. In the end, Rosa and Cecil live happily ever after, and Kain goes to Mt. Ordelas to attone for his own sins. It's kind of sad because Kain/Ron don't really get a happy ending

We never know what happens to him
BlackRose_Granger
Aug 17 2004, 08:26 PM
| QUOTE |
| Yeah, I agree that Cloud is like HArry because he is so oblivious to relationships A friend of mine said that 'I allways imagined Tifa and Aeris having this very obvious rivalry over Cloud's affections and he's in the meanwhile is thinking about pizza or something.' Plus, Rufus and Draco are pretty much the same character in different universes, so more FF7 - HP prallels |
I agree on the whole Rufus and Draco thing too.

Good observation on the whole FF7 game!! {it was my fave also} There are so much anime and game characters that remind me of H/Hr that I can't even think of naming them all lol!!! So I'll move to a t.v. series that I got to adore. I think Ephram Brown and Amy Abbott from " Everwood " are like Harry and Hermione too. Or is it that they remind me of Dan and Emma?? I dunno... I think they remind me both of H/Hr and D/E.

Too tired and lazy to name the reasons. lol
~~BlackRose~~
Sraighii
Aug 19 2004, 06:35 PM
Alright, well I guess that I'll go for another FF couple, Tidus and Yuna. (OT, but Tidus is a sexxi sexxi man

*points to her avatar and hugs it*)
While I know that it's not because of looks, because they aren't even remotely similar, I think they've got the whole relationship of H/Hr quite nicely. Yuna's dropping hints about how she feels for him, and Tidus is completely clueless. But when Tidus finds out, you can really tell just how much he loves her, and she loves him. Plus regardless of what their relationship is, they're still the best of friends and totally loyal to themselves and those around them. Ahh I need to go play FFX again....
Here's hoping H/Hr have their own version of the pond scene
hermione13
Aug 19 2004, 06:59 PM
Ahh yes...Maybe JK Rowling got some idea's from the FF games...(*squeal.) Although i highly doubt she has time and she probably doesn't even know what FF is..lol anyway I agree on Tidus and Yuna..So many similarities..
~Ashley
BlackRose_Granger
Aug 20 2004, 08:05 PM
Hey, I just thought of something... anybody watched
Kiki's Delivery Service???? The one where the main character is a witch??? I haven't watched it yet, but it looks similiar to the world of Harry Potter--- okay, maybe not THAT much lol. There is riding on brooms rofl. But I remember seeing the trailer and pics... the girl has a cat, right?? Like Hermione has one. And her best friend is a boy... who has no magical powers... but wears glasses. Like Harry does. That's pretty much what i know of that anime movie. But I dunno... maybe their relationship is like H/Hr. I gotta watch it to know tho lol.
Does anybody recommend it????????
~~BlackRose~~
laurie_strode22
Aug 20 2004, 08:42 PM
One couple that H/HR remind me of is Buffy/Xander from BTVS. Buffy and Harry have that whole chosen, not able to choose thing going for them; and Xander and Hermione are the two most loyal characters I've seen.
Laurie
Mayumi
Aug 21 2004, 10:28 AM

Kiki's Delivery Service is a GREAT movie! I really reccomend it! There are some similarities between Kiki and Harry (they're both very good flyers) but there aren't really any HP or HHr similarities that I saw =/ Though, that could be my biasedness because I thought the best friend was kind of annoying, lol

end

Ok... now I can't stop thinking of the FF games...

gah! No wait, I got one. I remember this one scene in the last episode of Evangelion, Shinji (main character) meets Kaworu and he feels love for the first time. This kinda reminds of the end scene in PS where Hermione gives Harry a hug, probably the first hug he's felt

I know it's a male-male relationship, and I prefer Shinji-Asuka, but hey, it works, right?
Sraighii
Aug 21 2004, 01:33 PM
OT: And you know the whole Shinji poping Kaworu's head off with his Eva, but that's not the point. Rei is still the best character, besides being like completely not real.
But I still understand what you mean by Shinji's first real understanding of love. I really hope Harry finally understands soon enough anyways.
BlackRose_Granger
Aug 21 2004, 11:22 PM
Yes, I agree with u... Rei is the best character lol.

I prefer Shinji/Rei pairing tho... I think Asuka's rather annoying. She's loud. Real loud. But then again Rei is quiet. Real quiet. Lol. And Shinji... well he can be both at times.
Thanks, I'm definitely buying Kiki's Delivery Service!!! But back to the topic... I think Serge and Kid from the game
Chrono Cross could be like H/Hr. I think. I dunno... but I hope H/Hr don't have the same fate as those two either. Great game. And a sad one at that.
~~BlackRose~~
mz.blu
Aug 22 2004, 05:13 PM
Joey and Pacey from "Dawson's Creek" remind me of Harry and hermione. And Darien and Serena from "Sailor Moon" remind me of Harry and hermione
bitterharmony
Aug 22 2004, 05:16 PM
James and Lilly!
Lilly 'sees the good in others when they don't see it in themselves', and ... come on. How many times did she emphasize how much Harry was like his father?
Jorael
Aug 25 2004, 06:16 AM
Kath
Aug 25 2004, 10:09 PM
For me, there are 3 main ones, and they happen to be my fave ships, after H/H
Cory and Topanga from "Boy Meets World",
Lizzie and Gordo from "Lizzie McGuire" and
Wes and Fred from "Angel". All of them have that whole best-friends-for-ages-always-on-the-same-wavelength-then-realise-they're-in-love thing going on

Love them all
Tic-Tac
Sep 4 2004, 09:29 PM
You read my mind. I love Will and Grace! Definitely what I was thinking. Go you!
And the Meg/Calvin comparison - how do you guys think of these on the spot? That was a very good one. I love Madeline L'Engle, she's brilliant.

My absolute favorite pairing is Emma/Mr. Knightley.

It screams Harry/Hermione. In fact, I just bought about all of Jane Austen's books today, so I can read them over and over and over ... *sigh*
I just love romance.
hpfanatic
Sep 5 2004, 09:13 AM
| QUOTE (Jorael @ Aug 25 2004, 09:16 AM) |
Will and Grace
These two remind me so much of H and HR. Not only do the two pairs share some physical features (THE HAIR!!!!) the interaction between Wll and Grace is kind of what I imagined how Harry and Hermione would interact in the future (minus the being gay part and add a romantic relationship ). |
Will and Grace do remind me of H/Hr too. Not very much, but you are right about the physical features.
Hmm.. Bridget Jones and Mark Darcy remind me of them too. There's even Daniel Cleaver who could be Ron! Hopefully H/Hr will end up like them. (Expect not Ron being a drunken jobless loser.. just H/Hr ending up together.)
So do Alice and Patrick from The Alice Series by Phyllis Reynolds Naylor. They have a very close relationship, even though they broke up after dating.. you can tell that they're meant to be.
blueangel
Sep 5 2004, 05:47 PM
To Lorie_Strode: You're right about Buffy/Xander in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I saw them very well together, although I was as well a Buffy/Angel shipper (though I don't want to compare Buffy/Angel to H/Hr).
About the character of Angel, there's a situation who reminds me of H/Hr in Angel's own series. In Season 3, there are growing feelings of love between Angel and his long time assistant and friend Cordelia, that reminds me a lot of certain things I've read about H/Hr. At first and during almost all the seasons, everybody talk to them about how much they love each other, and both Angel and Cordelia protest that they are just friends, just as Harry and Hermione do all the time; Angel and Cordelia's feeling are there but unconscious and it take time to them to realise what they really feel for each other. Cordelia even dates a guy, and he leaves her because she's constantly talking about Angel, worrying about Angel and obviously thinking about Angel. Finally in the last episode they really understand what's going on... My comparison, I hope, stops there, because in a series written by Joss Whedon (like "Angel"), whenever two people are about to be happy together, very bad things happen, and that was the case for Angel and Cordelia. So I hope better for Harry/Hermione.
Salzy
Sep 5 2004, 10:36 PM
I've got a pair that remind me of Harry and Hermione, but only a few people will probaly know what I'm talking about.
Alex and Luna remind me alot of Harry and Hermione.
Alex is the main hero of Lunar: Silver Star Story.
And Luna is the main heroine. Lunar 1 is a game that I believe orginally came out for the Sega CDX (an attachment to the Genesis). It was ported to Playstation by Dreamworks. It has alot of good anime in it.
Anyways. Alex is a brave hero type, who reminds me alot of Harry. He gains confident as the game progresses, much like Harry has throughout the books.
It takes Luna being kidnapped in order for Harry to realize what she truly means to him. And of course, like any good hero, he goes on a quest to rescue her. This reminds me of H/Hr because I feel something 'drastic' is going to happen that will bring the the two together.
Another thing that I find similar is that the players are supposed to get an attachment to these two characters in Lunar. The developers of the game make you want the two end up together(well, they basically make it a forgone conclusion).I think this is similar to the HP novels because I believe JKR wants the readers to become emotionally attached to both Harry and Hermione. And as such, it will strengthen the emotional connection between them if/when they become a couple.
There are also alot of things that differ between the two pairs as well, so they definaly aren't a '100%' match. However, that's the first couple that came to my mind. If I come up with any others, I may make another reply. (I've played alot of rpgs. Already a few are poping into my head. Such as Fei and Elly from Xenogears.). But I think that's all for now.
thetrueship
Sep 6 2004, 03:15 AM
I completely agree. I think most of us agree that
Cory and Topanga just scream H/Hr to anyone who's watched Boy Meets World. I wonder how many R/Hrs have watched it?

I don't need to provide reasons as everyone else has done it for me
Mulder and Skully scream H/Hr to me, too. The whole time I've watched them try to reveal to truth, I've been shipping them endlessly. I simply LOVED the episode where they had to pretend to be married and live in a creepily neat and ordered neighbourhood. But of course, they had a baby and everything, so that's really nothing. It was funny, though

I played FF7 once, and I completely fell in love with it. While I agree that Tifa and Cloud would have been a great H/Hr substitute, I shipped Cloud and Aries. I was ever so crushed when she died. I really felt like crying my eyes out, all my hope of her and Cloud getting together had been taken away from me just like that! I was about 11 years old. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, I loved FF7 nearly as much as I love HP, and I still shipped Cloud/Aries. A perfect example of H/Hr was staring at me right in the face, but I didn't ship it. See, even though we have loads of characters that remind us of H/Hr, our main ship is still H/Hr, isn't it? [unless I am mistaken] Besides, you don't see us making "Couples that remind you of Mulder/Skully" threads, do you? ^.^ ['course, that could be because we are in a very H/Hr environment,

]
Yeah, I'll shut up now.
~dani
OvrtheMoon
Sep 6 2004, 01:59 PM
I don't know how many of you have actually read Gregory Maguire's novel Wicked or seen the musical, but that's where this idea comes from. Anyway, i think that Elphaba and Fiyero resemble Hermione and Harry. I mean, Elphaba is scorned and considered an outcast because of the color of her skin and because she's always got her nose buried in a book, while Hermione is the same, except instead of having green skin, she's a mudblood. As for the Harry/Fiyero comparison, Harry is famous and is expected to save the world some day, and Fiyero is the prince of what ever land is was that he was from, and there for is kind of responsible for the lives of his people. Elphaba and Fiyero were friends in college, but Fiyero always seemed to have eyes for someone else (in the musical, it was Glinda...I can't remember who is was in the book). Harry and Hermione are the best of friends, and Harry was obsessed with Cho. In either version or Wicked, Elphaba and Fiyero end up getting together. The only thing about this little theory of mine that messes with my brain is that Fiyero dies because of Elphaba's fight against the wizard, but i am now choosing to forget that little bit of imformation. There now, all forgotten!
Nissi
Sep 6 2004, 03:06 PM
Am probably the only one in here that have ever watched the show
Silk Stalkings but the two main characters (
Chris and Rita) in the old seasons remind me soooo much of H/Hr..
They were best friends and they use to work together.. everyone use to see something between them.. and of course they would just ignore it since they were best friend.. until they got together

.. anyways thier whole friendship reminds me of H/Hr.. they way Chris use to stick up to Rita like a big brother.. and they way everyone saw something between them while they dint also reminds me of H/Hr a bit.. the sad thing about this is while they did get married the guy ended up getting killed
BlackRose_Granger
Sep 6 2004, 05:08 PM
p1per
Sep 6 2004, 10:30 PM
Van Fanel and Hitomi Kanzaki from the anime "The Vision of Escaflowne"

If you've watched the series you know how Hitomi always got those visions... and how she always wanted to take care of Van. They only realized that they loved each other at literally the very end of the series, which was fine with me. And... they didn't kiss! They never even worded their love to the other. It was all implied. No direct "I love you". It was still sweet, though. Their love pretty much saved the whole world. They never got married, Hitomi went back to the real world and Van stayed on his planet. And it wasn't the overly-sappy kind of love, it was something unsaid, beyond words, and it felt totally right. hahaha.
Seriously, check it out. I'm sure you can find the episodes on Kazaa.
I don't know if H/Hr will end up being the key to Voldemort's defeat, but I sure can see it happening (Lord, I pray it does). If it doesn't, oh well.
Danny2004
Sep 7 2004, 03:59 PM
| QUOTE (p1per @ Sep 7 2004, 06:30 AM) |
Van Fanel and Hitomi Kanzaki from the anime "The Vision of Escaflowne" 
If you've watched the series you know how Hitomi always got those visions... and how she always wanted to take care of Van. They only realized that they loved each other at literally the very end of the series, which was fine with me. And... they didn't kiss! They never even worded their love to the other. It was all implied. No direct "I love you". It was still sweet, though. Their love pretty much saved the whole world. They never got married, Hitomi went back to the real world and Van stayed on his planet. And it wasn't the overly-sappy kind of love, it was something unsaid, beyond words, and it felt totally right. hahaha.
Seriously, check it out. I'm sure you can find the episodes on Kazaa.
I don't know if H/Hr will end up being the key to Voldemort's defeat, but I sure can see it happening (Lord, I pray it does). If it doesn't, oh well. |
Now I'm happy that I'm not the only one to think about the Van/Hitomi pairing. I know that they never kiss or say a direct "I love you", but even if Hitomi came back home at the end, Van was not far behind. All the non-verbal cues were there to show eternal love beyond the words and no matter the distance that keeps them apart. It was the end of the story of Escaflowne, but it was only the beginning of Van and Hitomi's story; what they become in the future as lovers is all about our imagination, it's another story.
H/Hr will be the key for Harry to defeat Voldemort, I'm very optimistic about it!
black_butterfly
Sep 8 2004, 01:53 PM
| QUOTE (smuggled_muggle @ Aug 16 2004, 02:49 PM) |
| Has anyone here seen the movie, "The Village" by M. Night Shyamalan? The main couple in that movie kind of reminded me of Harry and Hermione. Lucius Hunt and Ivy Walker had so much in common with Harry and Hermione. Lucius was a very silent young man, kind of shy, kind of like Harry. Ivy was the most capable and the smartest girl in the village, who wouldn't stop talking. They are good friends, and whenever there was danger in the village, Lucius always reached for Ivy's hand to pull her into safety. Kind of reminded me of Harry's behaviour towards Hermione in the OotP. |
Haha, smuggled_muggle, I thought the same thing through the entire movie! And how Ivy would do anything for him, including visiting the dreaded towns. That movie rocked my socks, but I think maybe just because Ivy and Lucius reminded me so much of Harry and Hermione, and how deep there connection was, and how beautiful their love was... yeah, ok, I'm rambling.
dreamin_athena
Sep 8 2004, 08:22 PM
I was watching Star Wars a little while ago with my brother and I realized that the love "triangle" could be a little similar to the HP one. Excepte, while the R/Hrs might try to see it as a hint for them it actually isn't really.
At the beginning, it seems that both Han Solo and Luke are after Princess Leia, but then they find out that Luke and Leia are related so that obviously doesn't work out. Anyway, that would seem to support R/Hr, but JK tries to avoid all Star Warishness like crazy. I'm grasping onto thin threads I know, but hey, it's a thought of encouragement.

athena
smuggled_muggle
Sep 9 2004, 12:21 AM
| QUOTE (black_butterfly @ Sep 8 2004, 09:53 PM) |
| Haha, smuggled_muggle, I thought the same thing through the entire movie! And how Ivy would do anything for him, including visiting the dreaded towns. That movie rocked my socks, but I think maybe just because Ivy and Lucius reminded me so much of Harry and Hermione, and how deep there connection was, and how beautiful their love was... yeah, ok, I'm rambling. |
Great, black_butterfly. Now I know I wasn't the only who saw the H/Hr-ness between Lucius and Ivy. Remember that scene in the movie where there's a bit of stampede during a wedding, and Ivy just blindly reaches out, trying to find her way out of the crowd, and from out of nowhere, Lucius just grabs her hand and pulls her to safety? That so reminded me of Harry grabbing Hermione's robes in the DoM to run away from the Death Eaters.
| QUOTE ( dreamin_athena) |
I was watching Star Wars a little while ago with my brother and I realized that the love "triangle" could be a little similar to the HP one. |
Major difference between the Han /Leia / Luke and Harry /Hermione / Ron triangle is that none of the three HP kids are siblings. Personally, it irks me whenever Harry and Hermione are compared to Luke and Leia because the fact that Harry and Hermione are not related is major. It was decision by George Lucas to make Luke and Leia siblings to explain their deep connection (and pave the way for Leia and Han) just as it is a decision made by JKR to not make Harry and Hermione related -- thereby not giving us a convenient excuse for Harry and Hermione's bond and for Hermione and Ron to get together.
I'm currently reading an excellent trilogy by William Nicholson called "The Wind on Fire Trilogy" and in a lot of ways, the kids in that series remind me of Harry, Ron and Hermione. The main characters are the twins, Bowman and Kestrel (a boy and girl, respectively) who have this amazing bond, and they are joined by their classmate, Mumpo, who was initially characterised as someone "stupid" but had great devotion to Kestrel (sometimes he kind of reminded me of Neville). Bowman is very sensitive and intuitive, like Harry. Kestrel is bossy and passionate, like Hermione. But again, the major difference between those two and Harry and Hermione is that they are twins, related by blood. Still, their connection is so great that it borders on being incestous -- something even their parents are beginning to worry about so they are being urged to spend more time apart. Since Harry and Hermione are not siblings, one, there is no convenient excuse for their connection, and two, their relationship does not have such disturbing issues.
I guess my point is that just because fictional siblings have been compared to Harry and Hermione does not really take away from the romantic potential between Harry and Hermione. The fact that those two are not siblings is something that should not be overlooked.
DragoonKain3
Sep 9 2004, 12:08 PM
Hmm... couples resembling H/Hr.... let me count them... (though i don't really remember if I already posted some of these >_>)
Anime
Kanzaki Urumi/Kikuchi Yoshito (Great Teacher Onizuka)
-If you've seen the anime, it's painfully clear how well those two understand each other, how well they connect intellectually, how much they respect the other, and how well they work with each other. Like H/Hr, they unmistakenly have a bond that they share, though it is by far implicitly hinted at and never really explored at that. I also find it interesting that even though Kanzaki is smarter than Kikuchi (her IQ is 200 and his is 180), in several episodes she still looks to Kikuchi for his leadership (though not all the time). Sounds like anyone?
Rakushun/Yoko (Juuni Kokki aka Twelve Kingdoms)
-The way Yoko relies on the intelligence of Rakushun is not unlike the way Harry relies on Hermione's intelligence. And even after the first arc of the story, these two have always maintained the utmost respect for each other, and anyone can see that the friendship they share is so close like H/Hr that turning into romance is not out of the question.
Ariyoshi Juna/Ooshima Tokio (Earth Maiden Arjuna)
-Nothing stands in the way of Tokio's dedication to Juna, might it be rain, shine, jungles, or monsters. Juna on the other hand wants to push Tokio away because she doesn't want him endangered because of her. If that isn't the attitudes of H/Hr (especially pronounced in fanfics) I don't know what is.
Ranma/Ukyou (Ranma 1/2)
-Ukyou is, by far and away, the nicest of Ranma's 'suitors'. Out of all, she is not only the most helpful to Ranma, not resorting to dirty tricks to win him over (not counting the last chapter of the series, which is very OOC for her), and she is even on friendly terms with all the other 'suitors'. She listens to Ranma's problems over Okonomiyaki and is the only girl that Ranma IMO can truly talk to. Sadly, the mangaka is a love/hate fan, but this couple would always live on in fanfics. ^^
Niwa Daisuke/Harada Riku (D.N.Angel)
-Riku has been friends with Daisuke for quite some time, and also has been in love with him. Daisuke though is infatuated with her twin sister, Risa, and, in denial, Riku tries to set them up together. Apart from that, in one episode shows that Daisuke has an invisible connection with Riku, further resembling H/Hr.
I would name more manga and fansubbed anime, but chances are you guys wouldn't know of them (heck, apart from Ranma, I'd be surprised if anyone has watched any of the licensed anime i mentioned above). For sure though, there's a lot out there that resembles H/Hr, mainly because childhood friends (which more often than not exhibits H/Hr qualities) is a popular stereotype in Japan.
Games
Ryu/Nina (Breath of Fire 4)
-While Ryu and Nina has been a staple of the Breath of Fire series, its really only the fourth that a romantic relationship has been hinted at between them. Throughout the game, one can see if they attention the blossoming of their friendship into something more. (I especially like the one scene where Ryu teaches Nina how to fish, akin to Harry teaching Hermione how to fly in some fanfics) On top of that, the ending between them isn't sappy, dramatic, or angsty; its just one line that gives one the fuzzies just reading it.
Denim Mown/Kachua Bersalis (Tactics Ogre)
-While chances of it happening is close to nil (as Olivia Foriner seems to be there as Denim's LI) and some may consider it incestous (though they aren't really related by blood), their 'sibling' relationship resembles that of H/Hr. Kachua is a little bit too attached to her 'younger brother', though Denim is utterly oblivious to this. In many shapes and forms, Kachua helps Denim out in his mission in the rebellion, of course being unnoticed and taken forgranted along the way. Hopefully H/Hr doesn't turn out like them near the end.
Movies
Rosalee/Pete (Win a Date with Tad Hamilton)
-Aside from Pete's jealous fits in the middle (which were relatively small and ended quite quickly), this is the H/Hr relationship on the big screen. Best friends, 'realized' love on one side, unconscious love on the other, and a deep connection between the two of them, I loved this movie just because of the resemblance to the H/Hr relationship. For the uncanny resemblance alone, I think one has to see it.
Dre/Sidney (Brown Sugar)
-Yet another childhood friends movie. One could easily conclude from the movie that the reason why the romantic relationships of Sidney and the marriage of Dre failed was because their friendship was too close.
Jason/Amelia (Riding in Cars with Boys)
-To tell you the truth, the only reason why I made through the movie was because of this couple; I could've cared less about the main storyline. Practically inseparable during childhood, it was heartwarming that they found each other again years later when one had to move away.
Broken Sword/Flying Snow (Hero)
-While they majorly disagree on one thing (can't spoil it much) for 3 years, nonetheless they are still together. The line 'We were always together so our swords would never part' or something like that is a line I describes H/Hr in the future, just replacing swords with wands. Definitely, though, their duality in the battlefield is something even H/Hr has not (yet?) surpassed.
TV Series
Luke/Lorelai (Gilmore Girls)
-While they do fight (the only time they bicker), it usually is something big. IIRC, the jealousy on both parts are so small that it virtually is non-existant. They have always been there for each other even when the other is in a relationship, especially Luke. While I've got to admit that each and everyone of Lorelai's relationships bears a striking resemblance to H/Hr, unfortunately all but this one seems to be shortlived.
-While Lorelai has all the H/Hr goodness, Rory on the otherhand seems to have it only half-way. While Dean is hopelessly devoted to her, he and Rory doesn't seem to share an intellectual bond like Rory did with Jess. Jess and Rory though fights and bickers quite often, especially during the 3rd season. (Plus, Jess was a total jerk before Rory graduated Chilton) To tell you the truth, not one appeals to me more than the other, but with Jess's inconsiderate demands in the last season, maybe he didn't have as deep a bond with Rory as I thought.
There's probably more, but I can't remember them right now. Definitely there is more though, as finding couples resembling the H/Hr relationship is the main reason why I watch stuff in the first place.
smuggled_muggle
Sep 9 2004, 12:28 PM
| QUOTE ( DragoonKain3) |
Broken Sword/Flying Snow (Hero) -While they majorly disagree on one thing (can't spoil it much) for 3 years, nonetheless they are still together. The line 'We were always together so our swords would never part' or something like that is a line I describes H/Hr in the future, just replacing swords with wands. Definitely, though, their duality in the battlefield is something even H/Hr has not (yet?) surpassed. |
Well done on this one. Notice the other HP similarities aside from Broken Sword and Flying Snow being similar to Harry and Hermione? Broken Sword and Flying Snow were part of a Trio with the other warrior, Sky. And Broken Sword was mentoring Moon, a young female warrior (played by Zang Ziyi) who reminded me of Ginny. There were rumours of love triangles among the four warriors (Flying Snow having an affair with Sky; Broken Sword and the young female warrior having an affair). But in the end, the truth about Broken Sword and Flying Snow's love was revealed.
Another wonderful Asian movie with characters that remind me of Harry and Hermione was Ang Lee's "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon". Master Li Mu Bai and Yu Shu Lien (played by Chow Yun Fat and Michelle Yeoh, respectively) were long-time "platonic" friends, whose relationship bordered on the spiritual. Mu Bai's just like Harry -- a gifted warrior, but who remains humble. Shu Lien is similar to Hermione as well -- a briliant fighter, intelligent and one whose advice is always sought. Those two were equals in every way, and they had such respect for each other. No bickering, at all.
spygirl
Sep 11 2004, 05:44 PM
| QUOTE (thetrueship @ Sep 6 2004, 07:15 AM) |
Mulder and Skully scream H/Hr to me, too. The whole time I've watched them try to reveal to truth, I've been shipping them endlessly. I simply LOVED the episode where they had to pretend to be married and live in a creepily neat and ordered neighbourhood. But of course, they had a baby and everything, so that's really nothing. It was funny, though 
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Harry / Hermione have always reminded me of Mulder and Scully. ::sigh:: What a great ship that was

, although I'm still completely unforgiving of Chris Carter interference!
Btw, the episode you mention is called "Arcadia." I loved Mulder's line, "Wanna make that honeymoon video, now?"
Spygirl
September
Sep 11 2004, 06:40 PM
| QUOTE (spygirl @ Sep 12 2004, 01:44 PM) |
| QUOTE (thetrueship @ Sep 6 2004, 07:15 AM) | Mulder and Skully scream H/Hr to me, too. The whole time I've watched them try to reveal to truth, I've been shipping them endlessly. I simply LOVED the episode where they had to pretend to be married and live in a creepily neat and ordered neighbourhood. But of course, they had a baby and everything, so that's really nothing. It was funny, though 
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Harry / Hermione have always reminded me of Mulder and Scully. ::sigh:: What a great ship that was  , although I'm still completely unforgiving of Chris Carter interference! Btw, the episode you mention is called "Arcadia." I loved Mulder's line, "Wanna make that honeymoon video, now?" Spygirl |
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Mulder and Scully.
Ooh, their dynamic was amazing.
How Mulder/Scully relate to Harry/Hermione:
- Best friends.
- M/S took 7 seasons to get together - result being William.
[H/H will most likely get together in book 7.]
- Scully always had unwavering faith in Mulder.
- Mulder always had the tendency to run around half-cocked.
- Scully looked at dealing with certain situations with a logical mind.
- Mulder would deal with things through his emotions.
- Scully always knew how to read Mulder's body language.
- Mulder had a lonely childhood. He also lost a family member (sister).
- Scully was never afraid to tell Mulder when he was acting irrational and stupid.
- Mulder would give her
looks.
- Scully also tried to give Mulder another viewpoint on things.
- Mulder most times would ignore her viewpoint only in the end having to admit she was right.
- Scully was distrustful with Diana Fowley (Cho), with good reasons.
- Mulder was blind when it came to DF.
Okay, said too much.
Bye-bye
September
hpfanatic
Sep 12 2004, 10:38 AM
Wow, those comparisons are great September. You must be a diehard X-Files fan.
I especially like:
- M/S took 7 seasons to get together - result being William.
[H/H will most likely get together in book 7.]
Another couple that reminds me of H/Hr are Bryce and Julie from the book Flipped. Hmm.. I can't remember if the girl's name was Julie, my memory seems to have wavered.
Anyways, Julie is obsessed with Bryce but Bryce thinks that Julie is a whacko. When she starts to lose interest in him, he realizes that he actually likes her and throughout the book you read about him starting to like her and understand everything that he once thought was crazy.
It doesn't sound like H/Hr, but in a hopeful thought.. it's like how I hope Harry will soon start to realize his feelings for Hermione and their friendship will progress into something further.
Plus, Julie is a protestor like Hermione. Julie was trying to save a tree and her actions reminded me of Hermione and S.P.E.W. Also, Bryce takes his looks after his dad like Harry (except for his eyes).
Leli1013
Sep 12 2004, 05:37 PM
I'm so glad other people see the similarities between Harry and Hermione and Mulder and Scully. Part of the reason why I love pumpkin pie so much is because of how much they remind of MSR. Besides, it was the original ship.
born_dancer
Sep 14 2004, 07:19 PM
Ooo, good point on "The Village" with Lucius and Ivy. I didn't think about that during the movie, but now it's very much there.
Any
Friends fans out there?
Uhh...
Chandler and Monica...definitely remind me of Harry and Hermione.
THese two were the best of friends for the longest time, not to mention Chandler and Ross (Monica's brother) were best friends since school. Hence, Ron being more of a brother to Hermione
They got together
because they're best friends. Of course, in the beginning, they both thought it was wild and weird, but they were able to see through that awkward stage and fell in love.
A Harry and Hermione relationship has always, always reminded me of Chandler and Monica. The way everything unravels and happens, I could see it happening with JK's humor.
Nissi
Sep 14 2004, 07:44 PM
Ohh Ohh am a Friends fan!!! and i agree, I was just thinking about this today actually. But I agree, especially the part where they never thought of dating each other, heck Monica even went as far as to just tell him plain "no" in other words and look, ended up getting married.. hehe..
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| Joey and Pacey from "Dawson's Creek" remind me of Harry and hermione. |
I really hate to say this but Joey and Pacey remind me of Ron and Hermione. Especially the fact that they use to fight all the time and for a very very odd reason they still ended up together. If anything Harry and Hermione are like Dawson and Joey.. IMO
kikyo
Sep 14 2004, 10:01 PM
Harry
Hermione ...is
a combination of wonderful partnership (Mulder-Scully) and beautiful friendship (Dawson-Joey)