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> Numerical ratings for PK's archived fics?, poll closed. see 1st post for results
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post Feb 3 2004, 11:09 AM
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When you start reading a fan fiction, do you care about the rating it has? Do you give a fair rating, taking in consideration plot, strcuture, etc? I'm asking this because I've noticed that most of the fics here have a rating above 9. I know that Portkey authors are great, but sometimes made me wonder if that rating represents how good a fic is.

Personally, I don't consider the rating when I decide to read a fan fiction. What about you?


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POLL RESULTS as of Apr 6 2004
What to do with Portkey's numerical rating system for fanfics?

Remove it - it does not help when deciding what to read [ 54 ] [46.55%]
Keep it - I use the ratings when deciding what to read [ 40 ] [34.48%]
Replace it - I have a better idea (list below) [ 6 ] [5.17%]
Unsure - I don't really care about the rating system. [ 16 ] [13.79%]
Total Votes: 116


6Apr2004 Merging this now with the Poll thread. James announces the removal of the numerical rating system.

We're keeping this thread open for more suggestions in improving our Fanfic Side. You may also post in this thread or email [email protected]


24Feb2004 Locking this thread now so we can focus on this poll started by PK Admin, James. After a decision has been made, we will merge this with that other thread.
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post Feb 7 2004, 09:26 AM
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I don't consider it either. If the summary intrigues me, why bother about the rating? I'll make up my own mind on whether I like it or not. Romy, did I answer your question right?
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Personally, when reviewing, I don't give ratings. From what I've noticed, only those who think a Fic deserves a 10 will rate it, few will actually give lower than that, with the exception of Flamers. I read a Fic based on the summary first, but Recs and who wrote it does factor in too and then the decision on whether to continue reading is based on what I have read so far. So an out of 10 rating doesn't really hold sway with me.

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Well honestly after reading the summary, I admit I glance over the rating. Does it hold some sway on me though? No, not really. Since after all the rating is the average of all of it put together and while some may find it fantastic others will rank it lower according to personal opinion on the plot, from what I have observed. Also another key into the factor, is exactly who wrote it. There are some fictions that generally get a really good rating since the author is sort of a famous name. Although once you read the fiction, it may not be all that deserving of a high score.

So in order to get less of an unbiased mark, you have to be a newbie author that is barely sharing her/his talents with us all. smile.gif
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All this talk has made me go over and see what my rating was.... oh dear,lol...
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There are several types of raters here.

1. Those who always give 10s no matter what. Most of these people simply don't appreciate the difference between good literature and mediocre stuff.

2. Those who never give 10s. These people tend to think they're better than everyone because they're harder raters.

3. Those who don't rate for whatever reason.

4. And honest raters.

A lot of people fall into 1, 3, and 4. The rating system has been discussed for many of the reasons which you people are discussing here. Unfortunately, we haven't come to any sort of consensus. The rating system is mostly in place to try and give authors more tangible, instantaneous feedback. However, it can also act more like a popularity contest, and is completely subjective, rather than relative to each other. They shouldn't really be used to compare fics to each other.

OK, now that I've ranted on that subject a bit...

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I don't pay too much attention to it, but if I see a fic with tons of reviews and the final total is in the 7's or 8's, it might influence me in the decision to read it.

Something that I find annoying and from what I understand is against the rules, is someone that in their review says that he or she can't deny that you are a great writer but the plot of the story is not to his or her taste, and them, wham...you get hit with a 5.
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Yeah I don't pay much attention to the ratings. My stories on portkey often get an okay rating about8 or 9 but I don't really think that's a really reflection on my stories. Also you'll notice it's an average of all their ratings which also needs to be taken into account. I mean often my stories have a high rating because only 2 or 3 people have actually rated it.

I would like to think that I rate fairly when giving ratings. If I like the plot and the grammar and structure are good I give a 9 or 10. If I like the plot but the grammar isn't so good i give about an 7-8. If the plot is alrighht and I believe I could read it in give a 5 or 6, and if I really don't like the plot I give it abou 4. I generally don't give bellow 4 as then I feel as though I'm flaming the author.

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From Portkey Review Ettiquette:
...when the author states in the story that it has something in particular that might not be for everyone, and yet they get a lower value because of personal preference. Granted personal preference does play a part in liking and not liking a story, but the rating you give is the quality, the ease or read and the likeability of a fic. When the author can not appeal to your personal preference, it's polite to rate only what the author can do to make you like the story better.


In other words, if it's right there in the summary that there are plot points that may not appeal to your personal preference, it's not right to rate it so low.

On the other hand, if it's a story that that you would otherwise enjoy but their are huge plot holes and issues like that and other writing issues, I'd feel the low rating would be justified.

As for me, I don't think I'd have the patience to get through a story like that, let alone give constructive critisism. It would have to have something about it that caught my attention that made me think, "this is a diamond in the rough, I'd like to help." I hope that doesn't sound stuck up, I'm just busy with school. In fact, I have two midterms, the first of which starts in about 2 hours and I really should be studying rather than being here.... whistling.gif
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I don't base my opinion on rating on Portkey at all. The average rating here is over a 9, and frankly, I've read fics that I think are quite bad (in plot, plausibility, characterization, etc) that have very high 9s, and I suppose that's influenced my ideas of just how useful the rating system is. Of course, there are also the fics that very much deserve all the 10s they get, but they are more or less the minority. The thing is, an 8 isn't bad at all, so I don't think it should be treated as such.

Of course, my tastes might be just odd and I have different standards. However, although I don't review all that much (bad!Autumn, I suppose), if I think a fic is so amazingly good, I'll post a review, and generally a long one. Of course, the reason I might not post a review to a fic I don't think is good and has a lot of things needing improvement is because I won't make it through the entire chapter and will simply press the back button.

Okay, so basically.. I don't rely on the rating system at all. I base my opinion on the title, summary, and perhaps the username if I'm feeling picky. But usually just the title and summary. If I see spelling mistakes in the summary, I'm not going to read the fic at all. (Come on, reading the word 'storys' or 'summarys' is not a good way to show off excellent grammar or spelling.) Same goes for the "R&R plz!!!" that people stick at the end of summaries -- I refuse to read if someone has one of those there, particularly in netspeak.

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